# Arrogant Freeloading "Information" Seeking Asshats! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [May 12, 2009, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrogant-freeloading-information-seeking-asshats/496115 "2009-05-12T00:39:02Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Stoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/stoid/32/272_2.png) [@Stoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stoid)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrogant-freeloading-information-seeking-asshats/496115/201 "2009-05-13T02:51:27Z")
> [@Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](#): > > Classic excited utterance. Admissible., provided there’s a proper offer of proof, which there could or could not be, depending on… well, you don’t want to know. If it disagrees with you, you’re not going to read it. That would be the opposite of reality. I go straight for the stuff that disagrees with me. How else can I defend against it? Same reason I listen to Limbaugh and Hannity. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 2:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrogant-freeloading-information-seeking-asshats/496115/202 "2009-05-13T02:54:38Z")
**mswas** , not to belittle what you do, or anything, but is massage therapist considered a “medical professional”? ---
**Author:** ![Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimmy_Gibbler)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrogant-freeloading-information-seeking-asshats/496115/203 "2009-05-13T02:57:58Z")
> [@Gfactor](#): > > Depends on who is trying to get the evidence in. The Plaintiff made the statement so it’s admissible against her, but not in her favor. Rule 801(d)(2). > > I agree with the rest of your analysis. It depends a lot on the issue as to which exceptions might apply. I had assumed that Plaintiff saying she discharged Defendant’s obligation to pay Plaintiff’s bill could only be evidence against Plaintiff. I suppose that’s not necessarily the case (I discharged Defendant’s obligation in exchange for … ) and then suing on the breach of that contract, say. Moreover, I’m not sure I would necessarily want to keep Plaintiff from testifying that she relieved my client of his/her obligations, hearsay or not. (Again, I suppose a hypothetical could be crafted where I would want to do so, but this sounds like a particular good opportunity to allow the Plaintiff to hoist herself by her own petard). ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrogant-freeloading-information-seeking-asshats/496115/204 "2009-05-13T03:01:47Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > **mswas** , not to belittle what you do, or anything, but is massage therapist considered a “medical professional”? Yes, most certainly. ---
**Author:** ![askeptic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/eb9ed0/32.png) [@askeptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/askeptic)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrogant-freeloading-information-seeking-asshats/496115/205 "2009-05-13T03:06:37Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > Yes, most certainly. who knew, all those girls on craigs list and in the back of the local zine are “medical profesionals”. ---
**Author:** ![Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimmy_Gibbler)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrogant-freeloading-information-seeking-asshats/496115/206 "2009-05-13T03:07:54Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > Yes, most certainly. So when I give massages during sexytime,\* am I committing prostitution, unauthorized practice of medicine, or both? - Hahaha. I never do this anyway, so I have nothing to worry about. I do get them though, so maybe I am guilty of soliciting? ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrogant-freeloading-information-seeking-asshats/496115/207 "2009-05-13T03:09:36Z")
I find it somewhat difficult to believe that anyone will sleep with you if you always refer to it as _sexytime_. ---
**Author:** ![Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimmy_Gibbler)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrogant-freeloading-information-seeking-asshats/496115/208 "2009-05-13T03:10:50Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > I find it somewhat difficult to believe that anyone will sleep with you if you always refer to it as _sexytime_. It helps that I am the hotness. ---
**Author:** ![Rumor\_Watkins](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/d9b06d/32.png) [@Rumor\_Watkins](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rumor_Watkins)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrogant-freeloading-information-seeking-asshats/496115/209 "2009-05-13T03:13:27Z")
> [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](#): > > It helps that I am the hotness. Dee Jay Tanner begs to differ. ---
**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrogant-freeloading-information-seeking-asshats/496115/210 "2009-05-13T03:31:50Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > **mswas** , not to belittle what you do, or anything, but is massage therapist considered a “medical professional”? Only by massage therapists. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ea5d25/32.png) [@Happy\_Scrappy\_Hero\_Pup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Scrappy_Hero_Pup)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrogant-freeloading-information-seeking-asshats/496115/211 "2009-05-13T03:45:34Z")
[QUOTE= Stoid] That would be the opposite of reality. I go straight for the stuff that disagrees with me. How else can I defend against it? [/QUOTE] Well, your bold declaration of what you had “learned” was flat-out wrong. What did you learn from that? ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 3:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrogant-freeloading-information-seeking-asshats/496115/212 "2009-05-13T03:53:50Z")
> [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#): > > Only by massage therapists. And the state licensing board of course. And Doctors. Lets not forget them. 😉 Just not to idiots on a message board. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrogant-freeloading-information-seeking-asshats/496115/213 "2009-05-13T03:55:31Z")
> [@askeptic](#): > > who knew, all those girls on craigs list and in the back of the local zine are “medical profesionals”. No, they are prostitutes. It’s funny, in school they always harped on how prevalent this sort of ignorance is, and other students had experiences of dealing with this kind of ignorance but I really honestly hadn’t encountered it so prevalently until this thread. It’s interesting. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrogant-freeloading-information-seeking-asshats/496115/214 "2009-05-13T03:57:48Z")
> [@Kimmy\_Gibbler](#): > > So when I give massages during sexytime,\* am I committing prostitution, unauthorized practice of medicine, or both? > > - Hahaha. I never do this anyway, so I have nothing to worry about. I do get them though, so maybe I am guilty of soliciting? Selfish lover eh? Neither, if no money is changing hands then you aren’t engaging in any wrong-doing. If you were charging people for massages you’d be practicing medicine without a license (in most states but not all) if you were charging them for sex then you’d be engaging in Prostitution. (in all states) ---
**Author:** ![ivn1188](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e480ec/32.png) [@ivn1188](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivn1188)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrogant-freeloading-information-seeking-asshats/496115/215 "2009-05-13T04:12:01Z")
**mswas** : slight hijack here, but there is this button at the bottom right that has quote marks and a plus on it. You can use this button to quote multiple posts _in the same reply_! Just click the button on each post and then they will all be quoted when you finally hit the reply button. Perhaps you should try using it, because skimming through 8 of your posts in a row and laughing derisively at each one takes up a lot of time. It would save me a lot of time and effort to just have one condescending chortle instead of several, and that way I might be able to throw in an eye roll and maybe even a disbelieving slo-mo facepalm. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrogant-freeloading-information-seeking-asshats/496115/216 "2009-05-13T04:30:45Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > And the state licensing board of course. And Doctors. Lets not forget them. 😉 Just not to idiots on a message board. I work with doctors every day at work and have for ten years. Few insurance companies will pay for massage therapy benefits while most pay for physical therapy. You can call yourself whatever you want, but I believe that most doctors would consider a massage therapist a medical professional as much as they do an esthetician. Of course there are medical benefits of massage therapy, of course! There are medical benefits of getting a facial, too. I like my medical providers to have more than 1000 hours of schooling and 150 hours of patient care. YMMV. > [@mswas](#): > > you were charging them for sex then you’d be engaging in Prostitution. (in all states) Except Nevada, which is still a state. ---
**Author:** ![Tenebras](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/977dab/32.png) [@Tenebras](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tenebras)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrogant-freeloading-information-seeking-asshats/496115/217 "2009-05-13T04:33:11Z")
> [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#): > > Of course there are medical benefits of massage therapy, of course! There are medical benefits of getting a facial, too. I like my medical providers to have more than 1000 hours of schooling and 150 hours of patient care. YMMV. You know, I’ve never thought of Ron Jeremy as a medical provider before… ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrogant-freeloading-information-seeking-asshats/496115/218 "2009-05-13T04:33:38Z")
> [@ivn1188](#): > > **mswas** : slight hijack here, but there is this button at the bottom right that has quote marks and a plus on it. You can use this button to quote multiple posts _in the same reply_! Just click the button on each post and then they will all be quoted when you finally hit the reply button. > > Perhaps you should try using it, because skimming through 8 of your posts in a row and laughing derisively at each one takes up a lot of time. It would save me a lot of time and effort to just have one condescending chortle instead of several, and that way I might be able to throw in an eye roll and maybe even a disbelieving slo-mo facepalm. > > Thanks! Why would I want to make an idiot happy? I happen to be correct here. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrogant-freeloading-information-seeking-asshats/496115/219 "2009-05-13T04:39:11Z")
> [@Tenebras](#): > > You know, I’ve never thought of Ron Jeremy as a medical provider before… Well, you know you need a license to make commercial porn… ---
**Author:** ![Tenebras](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/977dab/32.png) [@Tenebras](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tenebras)\ **Post date:** [May 13, 2009, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrogant-freeloading-information-seeking-asshats/496115/220 "2009-05-13T04:40:55Z")
> [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](#): > > > [@mswas](#): > > > > you were charging them for sex then you’d be engaging in Prostitution. (in all states) > > Except Nevada, which is still a state. So when you engage the prostitute in Nevada she does what, gives you a foot massage? Reads you the Iliad while you drift off to sleep with your head resting upon her ample bosoms? Your taxes? (At least you’re getting fucked…) ETA- Commercial porn? Shit, I have to fast forward through plot and now commercials, too? If only we could go back to 1962, when everyone was polite, the porn didn’t have commercials, and Walter Cronkite was still on the television. Hell, I’d even take bizarro-1962 where television was polite, everyone had commercials and Walter Cronkite was in porn. “You’re going to have to swallow that if you want to get paid. And that’s the way it is!” [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrogant-freeloading-information-seeking-asshats/496115.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrogant-freeloading-information-seeking-asshats/496115.md?page=12)