# Arrow - Season 3 Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 9, 2014, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-3-thread/700806 "2014-10-09T00:03:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2014, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-3-thread/700806/1 "2014-10-09T00:03:37Z")
I’ve been looking forward to this. The scene with Ollie in the premiere of _The Flash_ last night was a nice appetizer. Open spoilers are okay for anything already aired on the show at the time of posting. It’s starting now! See you on the other side… ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2014, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-3-thread/700806/2 "2014-10-09T01:51:12Z")
Ok, I’m gonna spoiler this Noooooo! Sarah! Pretty good episode. I was surprised they got Oliver and Felicity together, sort of. It’s cool to have Roy in costume as a full-fledged member of the team, but is Diggle really going to be relegated to fetching coffee for Felicity? I can’t see that lasting. ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2014, 12:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-3-thread/700806/3 "2014-10-09T12:45:39Z")
I’m going with the “open spoilers after it airs” approach. Is this the setup for Laurel becoming Canary? I just want Felicity to be happy (if that involves Ollie that is OK) - still think workplace Felicity is more attractive than date Felicity. Brian ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2014, 1:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-3-thread/700806/4 "2014-10-09T13:39:05Z")
> [@N9IWP](#): > > Is this the setup for Laurel becoming Canary? It’s gotta be. Though people don’t always stay dead on shows like this. > [@](#): > > …still think workplace Felicity is more attractive than date Felicity. Totally agree! So, who do we think it was that shot Sarah? ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2014, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-3-thread/700806/5 "2014-10-09T14:13:14Z")
I’m glad that they’re finally changing the name of the locale to its proper name of Star City. Apparently it takes Superman to do so. ---
**Author:** ![epbrown01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@epbrown01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown01)\ **Post date:** [October 9, 2014, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-3-thread/700806/6 "2014-10-09T17:03:35Z")
> [@Terminus\_Est](#): > > I’m glad that they’re finally changing the name of the locale to its proper name of Star City. Apparently it takes Superman to do so. The funny thing to me was he wants to change the name of the entire city rather than, say, the name of the company he’s buying, which would be much simpler. And since Ollie’s sole argument for letting him run the company seemed to be his surname (rather than competence, experience, a feasible business plan, etc) taking Queen out of the company name would stop his takeover attempts. Sarah was killed by my two least favorite characters - Malcolm and AnnoyingGirl, the kid sister. ---
**Author:** ![Amateur\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/59ef9b/32.png) [@Amateur\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amateur_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [October 12, 2014, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-3-thread/700806/7 "2014-10-12T00:21:53Z")
> [@Terminus\_Est](#): > > I’m glad that they’re finally changing the name of the locale to its proper name of Star City. Apparently it takes Superman to do so. No, just working on things Atom by atom. _snerk_ ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 10:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-3-thread/700806/8 "2014-10-16T10:56:35Z")
So who killed Sara? Komodo’s alibi checked out, and Merlin is busy training Thea. Speaking of, how many "normal"s does this show have? Mr. Lance and (for the moment) Laurel. And I guess Felicity’s new boss Brian ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2014, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-3-thread/700806/9 "2014-10-16T14:36:23Z")
> [@N9IWP](#): > > So who killed Sara? Komodo’s alibi checked out, and Merlin is busy training Thea. > > Speaking of, how many "normal"s does this show have? Mr. Lance and (for the moment) Laurel. And I guess Felicity’s new boss > > Brian My guess is that it was Thea, as part of her training, and that is why Sarah’s guard was down. I’m sure flights to and from Corto Maltese are possible. Of course, my first guess was Roy, but it appears he was with Oliver at that time (as they both showed up at the warehouse together). ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2014, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-3-thread/700806/10 "2014-10-17T00:38:24Z")
Since when is Atom rich and businessy and stuff? I thought he was a scientist (like he’s DC’s version of Ant Man), though I really haven’t followed the character that much. Seems maybe he should have been Blue Beetle or someone like that instead (I do remember Ted Kord’s name being mentioned in the past on the show, right?) Or maybe it’s just weird that Superman is pretending to be him. ---
**Author:** ![TBG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c89c15/32.png) [@TBG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TBG)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2014, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-3-thread/700806/11 "2014-10-23T23:10:54Z")
Wildcat, Manhunter, and hints at OMAC all in one episode? Dang. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2014, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-3-thread/700806/12 "2014-10-24T02:05:00Z")
I’m glad we caught up with Thea this episode. Not sure what to think of her and her motivations at this point, since she’s under the influence of her pappa. Routh is kinda fun in his role. Just waiting for the other shoe to eventually drop there. Looks like Felicity is going to be on _The Flash_ next week. Laurel’s lucky she didn’t get a worse beating than that! ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Q](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@Johnny\_Q](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Q)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2014, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-3-thread/700806/13 "2014-10-24T14:02:36Z")
Will the Atom actually shrink on the show or is he still de-Veganized? ---
**Author:** ![epbrown01](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@epbrown01](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/epbrown01)\ **Post date:** [October 24, 2014, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-3-thread/700806/14 "2014-10-24T16:47:02Z")
> [@Tangent](#): > > .Laurel’s lucky she didn’t get a worse beating than that! In season one we saw Laurel take down two security guys with her bare hands to save Tommy and Oliver a beating in a nightclub, citing years of self-defense training because she was a cop’s daughter. Now she can’t take out one guy, given a baseball bat and the element of surprise? That’s the type of writing that sours me on CW shows - things happen just to make them happen. ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2014, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-3-thread/700806/15 "2014-10-28T11:54:52Z")
I’ve finally finished season 2 on Netflix and have started in on S3 on the CW web site. Dear Og, that commercial with the women shrieking over iPhones/Sprint has got me _this_ close to just saying “fuck it” and waiting another year to just watch the damn show (and The Flash) on Netflix instead. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2014, 8:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-3-thread/700806/16 "2014-10-30T08:45:19Z")
Now Thea is Ms. Liarface. Superman guy is the Atom? I’m glad. I like him. Wasn’t sure if he was a bad guy. Who didn’t know Laurel would train a few weeks and gain superhero skill? Diggle’s baby is going to train a few weeks and become a superhero. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2014, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-3-thread/700806/17 "2014-10-30T13:41:03Z")
Yeah, I wonder what Thea’s motivations are. Is she totally brainwashed by Merlyn? She seems normal enough in her interactions with everyone. There’s been no hint that she’s turned bad or anything, other than her lying about her dad. Was that Ra’s there at the end with Nyssa? ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2014, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-3-thread/700806/18 "2014-10-30T19:10:29Z")
> [@Tangent](#): > > Yeah, I wonder what Thea’s motivations are. Is she totally brainwashed by Merlyn? She seems normal enough in her interactions with everyone. There’s been no hint that she’s turned bad or anything, other than her lying about her dad. Not sure what you’re asking… She still loves Ollie, and we haven’t seen her do anything evil, or even have it hinted at. She and Malcolm do seem to have a basically loving relationship, and as far as we can tell each is genuinely concerned about the welfare of the other. And she is clearly enjoying learning to be a badass. Or are you getting at something else? And I _think_ that was Ra’s, who now seems to be the leading suspect for killing Sarah, or at least so we’re meant to think. One thing that is VERY unclear is what the heck is motivating Waller to want to train and blackmail Ollie back in the flashback timeline. It can’t just be that she was wandering around doing her mysterious ruthless thing, happened upon him, and said to herself “hey, look, it’s rich playboy Oliver Queen, he’s NOT dead after all, I _could_ rescue him and return him to the US and gain his gratitude and a bunch of goodwill for my agency, but instead I think I’ll kidnap him and train him to be an assassin, in Hong Kong, and somehow that will all work out”? I mean, there HAS to be more going on here, right? Maybe she has knowledge from the future like the wheelchair guy in The Flash, and has some long-term motivation to help him reach is potential? ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2014, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-3-thread/700806/19 "2014-10-30T23:01:54Z")
> [@Tangent](#): > > Yeah, I wonder what Thea’s motivations are. Is she totally brainwashed by Merlyn? She seems normal enough in her interactions with everyone. There’s been no hint that she’s turned bad or anything, other than her lying about her dad. I haven’t watched the latest episode yet, but I have an idea about Thea: She’s snapped. The entire leadup to her first encounter with Malcolm involved all the problems she had with her mother and brother (as well as her assumed father) lying to her. Then she finally found herself face-to-face with Malcolm. She knows what an evil bastard he is (hell, she fucking shot him!), but … he didn’t deny anything and … he was _honest_ with her. At least from her point of view, he was honest with her. And she latched onto that. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2014, 11:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-3-thread/700806/20 "2014-10-30T23:12:52Z")
Malcolm might be a mass murderer, but he’s still better than Thea. That chick is whacked. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-3-thread/700806.md?page=2)