# Arrow - Season 3 Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 9, 2014, 12:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-3-thread/700806 "2014-10-09T00:03:37Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Alan\_Smithee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/2acd7d/32.png) [@Alan\_Smithee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alan_Smithee)\ **Post date:** [December 22, 2014, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-3-thread/700806/81 "2014-12-22T23:49:23Z")
If that’s the case, why did he ask Felicity who he was? ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2014, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-3-thread/700806/82 "2014-12-23T03:17:42Z")
Wells could have consulted the future machine, but I prefer to think Wells is actually bad-ass smart and a formidable character when he wants to be. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [December 23, 2014, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-3-thread/700806/83 "2014-12-23T21:00:12Z")
> [@Alan\_Smithee](#): > > If that’s the case, why did he ask Felicity who he was? To see if she’d tell him? Something his time-travel computer couldn’t tell him. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2015, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-3-thread/700806/84 "2015-01-21T23:50:05Z")
New episode tonight! When last we left our hero… he’d been run through with a big sword and thrown off a mountain. :eek: Meanwhile, Laurel is still on a trajectory to become a new Black Canary, and Ray’s itching to put on that ATOM suit. Still not sure WTF is up with Thea. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2015, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-3-thread/700806/85 "2015-01-22T00:58:30Z")
If Ollie is off healing someplace, I’m guessing we’ll still have lots of flashbacks so we don’t forget about him. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2015, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-3-thread/700806/86 "2015-01-22T13:44:39Z")
I found this episode to be quite the snoozer. We didn’t really think they’d kill off the titular character, did we? Probably the only highlight was Laurel taking up Black Canary’s mask. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2015, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-3-thread/700806/87 "2015-01-22T15:38:37Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > IDear Og, that commercial with the women shrieking over iPhones/Sprint has got me _this_ close to just saying “fuck it” and waiting another year to just watch the damn show (and The Flash) on Netflix instead. Email them and tell them. This worked for me when Classic FM were airing an obnoxious ad. I told them that the moment this ad appeared I switched over or off, and I was sure their other advertisers must have been rather unhappy. The ad was cut that very day. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2015, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-3-thread/700806/88 "2015-01-22T16:17:38Z")
Not much of an episode, and they really needed him to stay “dead” (except in flashbacks) for about 3 episodes. I would have had him shown lying on the mountain in this episode, and that’s it. I would have had Malcolm going to retrieve the sword, plus showing him being dragged away, in the second episode. Tease that it might be Malcolm who saved him (after all, didn’t Merlyn also come back from the dead?). I’d have the awake Oliver Queen with Hong Kong guy who’s name I forget and his wife ending episode three, and the exposition in episode 4. Don’t drag it out too long, but don’t give it up so fast either. That said, while I think Stephen Amell’s work is servicable at best, the rest of the cast showed they really couldn’t carry an episode. So maybe they do need to bring him back faster. The actors portraying Thea Queen, Roy Harper, and Amanda Waller are especially shallow. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2015, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-3-thread/700806/89 "2015-01-22T18:13:48Z")
Well, the audience knows he can’t be dead so I’m glad they showed us. He’s still dead as far as his team & Malcolm know. I’m surprised Malcolm didn’t go down the ravine and retrieve the body, or at least visually confirm the death. And speaking of Malcolm, where is this mountain again? It sure looks like some remote Asian mountain top but I thought it was right outside Arrow’s city. Roy got some fun stunts in. ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2015, 7:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-3-thread/700806/90 "2015-01-22T19:54:43Z")
I enjoyed it a lot more than most of you seemed to. First of all, there was zero chance that Ollie was going to remain dead, and we knew it, and they knew it, and they knew we knew it, so there was no point in pretending to drag that out. What I wanted was (a) Team Arrow being kept in the dark for a while, and reacting in an interesting way, and (b) a plausible way for Ollie to come back… and “he did a massive favor for that Asian guy whose name I’ve never learned, who is now in the league, and being in the league might know mystical stuff” is reasonable for (b), and I thought Felicity in particular did a fine job for (a). Although I have no idea how Vinnie Jones is supposed to be immune to pistols. ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2015, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-3-thread/700806/91 "2015-01-22T20:00:06Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > I enjoyed it a lot more than most of you seemed to. First of all, there was zero chance that Ollie was going to remain dead, and we knew it, and they knew it, and they knew we knew it, so there was no point in pretending to drag that out. What I wanted was (a) Team Arrow being kept in the dark for a while, and reacting in an interesting way, and (b) a plausible way for Ollie to come back… and “he did a massive favor for that Asian guy whose name I’ve never learned, who is now in the league, and being in the league might know mystical stuff” is reasonable for (b), and I thought Felicity in particular did a fine job for (a). I agree with this. > [@](#): > > Although I have no idea how Vinnie Jones is supposed to be immune to pistols. That puzzled me, too. Anyone with knowledge of the comics have any insight on this? If so, please put it in a spoiler box. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2015, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-3-thread/700806/92 "2015-01-22T20:55:27Z")
Reacting to Oliver’s fate, Felicity did fine, but her character can’t carry the show. Diggle was OK. Roy is just there to look good for the ladies. I don’t know what Laurel is there for, other than to eventually be an unconvincing Black Canary. Sure, we know Oliver is coming back - I just feel it’s being rushed. Spoiler on how the comics Ra’s al Ghul cheats death: The [Lazarus Pit](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lazarus_Pit) is capable of healing any injury. It also keeps those who bathe in it young and can resurrect the dead. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2015, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-3-thread/700806/93 "2015-01-22T23:04:23Z")
The actor who plays Arrow already said they weren’t going to use that on him. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2015, 2:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-3-thread/700806/94 "2015-01-23T14:09:34Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > The actor who plays Arrow already said they weren’t going to use that on him. I know. But he also said it will probably appear at some point. And it wouldn’t be the first time actors threw a curve ball at questioners looking for spoilers. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2015, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-3-thread/700806/95 "2015-01-23T14:12:32Z")
> [@Tangent](#): > > That puzzled me, too. Anyone with knowledge of the comics have any insight on this? If so, please put it in a spoiler box. Brick is a low-level super with moderate invulnerability and super-strength, though both will probably be toned even further down for TV. ---
**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2015, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-3-thread/700806/96 "2015-01-23T14:21:08Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > I know. But he also said it will probably appear at some point. And it wouldn’t be the first time actors threw a curve ball at questioners looking for spoilers. It sorta already has, Raz told Ollie nobody had challenged him in 67 years. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2015, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-3-thread/700806/97 "2015-01-23T16:18:56Z")
> [@DigitalC](#): > > It sorta already has, Raz told Ollie nobody had challenged him in 67 years. But “it” wasn’t named nor shown. I think they will show and name"it" at some point. ---
**Author:** ![levdrakon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@levdrakon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/levdrakon)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2015, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-3-thread/700806/98 "2015-01-25T22:02:19Z")
I just ran across this article & video “destroying” some Hollywood archery myths. It’s not about the show, but it’s interesting. The Danish archer in the video pulls off some amazing shots. [https://www.nerdist.com/2015/01/badass-danish-youtuber-destroys-every-hollywood-archery-myth/](https://www.nerdist.com/2015/01/badass-danish-youtuber-destroys-every-hollywood-archery-myth/) ---
**Author:** ![Mister\_Rik](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mister_rik/32/491_2.png) [@Mister\_Rik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mister_Rik)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2015, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-3-thread/700806/99 "2015-01-26T03:04:31Z")
> [@levdrakon](#): > > I just ran across this article & video “destroying” some Hollywood archery myths. It’s not about the show, but it’s interesting. The Danish archer in the video pulls off some amazing shots. > > [https://www.nerdist.com/2015/01/badass-danish-youtuber-destroys-every-hollywood-archery-myth/](https://www.nerdist.com/2015/01/badass-danish-youtuber-destroys-every-hollywood-archery-myth/) The bit about shooting with both eyes open is one of the reasons I’ve disliked some of the hunter-specific armor in World of Warcraft (hunters are the bow- or gun-wielding class in the game, for those not familiar). I look at it and ask, “How is it remotely practical to wear a helm that covers one eye?” My only explanation is the obvious one: these helms are designed by artists, not by people who have real-world experience with bows. Then again, all you really need to do is look at very old artwork from eras when archery was common, to see that archers typically wore open-faced helmets, much the same way a modern quarterback wears a helmet with only a minimal faceguard so that his vision isn’t obstructed. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2015, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-3-thread/700806/100 "2015-01-26T13:21:32Z")
> [@Mister\_Rik](#): > > The bit about shooting with both eyes open is one of the reasons I’ve disliked some of the hunter-specific armor in World of Warcraft (hunters are the bow- or gun-wielding class in the game, for those not familiar). I look at it and ask, “How is it remotely practical to wear a helm that covers one eye?” My only explanation is the obvious one: these helms are designed by artists, not by people who have real-world experience with bows. Then again, all you really need to do is look at very old artwork from eras when archery was common, to see that archers typically wore open-faced helmets, much the same way a modern quarterback wears a helmet with only a minimal faceguard so that his vision isn’t obstructed. You’d probably not enjoy Rift, then, which features armor which covers both eyes. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-3-thread/700806.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-3-thread/700806.md?page=6)