# Arrow Season 6 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 12, 2017, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-6/798636 "2017-10-12T13:24:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2018, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-6/798636/21 "2018-01-21T21:20:18Z")
> [@Terminus\_Est](#): > > The newbies have gone off on their own for completely bullshit reasons. Oliver is just about the worst leader you can possibly imagine. And this guy is supposed to also be the mayor? Art imitating life? But yes, boneheaded choices really define Team Arrow. Always have. Also, Thea, the character, still annoys the crap out of me, and the actress is still horrible. Can she go back into a coma? ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2018, 7:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-6/798636/22 "2018-01-22T07:47:42Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > Art imitating life? > > But yes, boneheaded choices really define Team Arrow. Always have. Also, Thea, the character, still annoys the crap out of me, and the actress is still horrible. Can she go back into a coma? I actually like Thea, despite the current uselessness of the character. Maybe she can join the Legends. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [January 22, 2018, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-6/798636/23 "2018-01-22T07:58:41Z")
> [@Terminus\_Est](#): > > I actually like Thea, despite the current uselessness of the character. Maybe she can join the Legends. Meh. Kid Flash is already joining them. I think that fills their quota of useless characters for the season. šŸ˜› ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-6/798636/24 "2018-01-26T13:54:27Z")
Ah, the magic Arrowverse internet, where you can hack video display panels and cause them to explode. That is all. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2018, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-6/798636/25 "2018-01-26T18:03:04Z")
Thatā€™s all the stupid you got out of this? The writers are just trolling the audience with the stupid, Iā€™m sure. Iā€™d say it canā€™t be that hard to produce semi-plausible stories, but then I remember _24_. Have they had a satellite yet that not only can tell you how many people are in a 3-story building from their infrared signatures, but also what floor they are on? Thereā€™s plenty of room left for the exploding video displays to be the most rational part of the season. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-6/798636/26 "2018-01-27T02:48:08Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > Thatā€™s all the stupid you got out of this? The writers are just trolling the audience with the stupid, Iā€™m sure. Iā€™d say it canā€™t be that hard to produce semi-plausible stories, but then I remember _24_. Have they had a satellite yet that not only can tell you how many people are in a 3-story building from their infrared signatures, but also what floor they are on? Thereā€™s plenty of room left for the exploding video displays to be the most rational part of the season. Over on _The Flash_, Harry was able to change the composition of some deadly acid by sticking his USB cable into the vat and hacking it into something non-caustic, and that was strangely tolerable because the episode was otherwise fun and good. The writers on _Arrow_ have piled up so many implausibilities and outright stupidities that any deviation from real-world experience now just disables our suspension of disbelief. OK, hereā€™s another one. Early in the season, the FBI were all up in Oliverā€™s case about being the Green Arrow. With the city under direct cyber-terrorist attack, there should be FBI agents all over the place. So where the frak are they? ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [January 27, 2018, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-6/798636/27 "2018-01-27T03:45:35Z")
> [@Terminus\_Est](#): > > OK, hereā€™s another one. Early in the season, the FBI were all up in Oliverā€™s case about being the Green Arrow. With the city under direct cyber-terrorist attack, there should be FBI agents all over the place. So where the frak are they? texting? ---
**Author:** ![Tangent](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tangent/32/3098_2.png) [@Tangent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tangent)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2018, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-6/798636/28 "2018-02-02T04:10:13Z")
Just now catching up on last weekā€™s episode ā€œWe Fall.ā€ Fun little Easter egg: When Cayden James shows up at Oliverā€™s mayoral office, he introduces himself (for the secretaryā€™s benefit) as ā€œBen Gale.ā€ The actor playing James is Michael Emerson who played a character on LOST who was first known as ā€œHenry Galeā€ and then later as ā€œBen Linus.ā€ Otherwise, yeah, kind of a stupid episode. I did like Dinah using her Canary Cry to stop the trainā€“that was cool. ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2018, 11:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-6/798636/29 "2018-02-02T11:57:18Z")
Drat! forgot to record the Feb 1 episode ā€“ luckily I can watch online. Brian ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2018, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-6/798636/30 "2018-02-02T14:11:33Z")
This episode was better than the last one, if only for the unexpected Flash mini-crossover showing Dinahā€™s much-needed backstory. Iā€™m still not convinced about Vigilanteā€™s protestations of being ā€œundercoverā€. I wouldnā€™t be surprised if he again turns up alive at the end of the season. If Cayden James is such a master hacker, wouldnā€™t he be able to detect that the footage implicating Oliver in his sonā€™s death was fake? After all, Felicity and Helix girl were able to do it in a matter of hours. ---
**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2018, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-6/798636/31 "2018-02-02T20:08:30Z")
They should have been suspicious that Cayden used an obvious password like his sonā€™s birthday. It screamed ā€œsetupā€ to me and I donā€™t have anything approaching Felicityā€™s skills as a hacker. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2018, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-6/798636/32 "2018-02-02T20:19:14Z")
> [@Terminus\_Est](#): > > If Cayden James is such a master hacker, wouldnā€™t he be able to detect that the footage implicating Oliver in his sonā€™s death was fake? After all, Felicity and Helix girl were able to do it in a matter of hours. Why would he look into it? ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2018, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-6/798636/33 "2018-02-03T00:42:38Z")
> [@simster](#): > > Why would he look into it? He seems the type of person that doesnā€™t appreciate being manipulated. ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2018, 2:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-6/798636/34 "2018-02-03T02:12:52Z")
> [@Terminus\_Est](#): > > He seems the type of person that doesnā€™t appreciate being manipulated. Sure - but he has no reason to believe he is in this specific case. Now, if ā€˜somehowā€™ they manage to show him that he was - then Iā€™m sure heā€™ll care. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2018, 1:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-6/798636/35 "2018-02-03T13:52:41Z")
> [@simster](#): > > Sure - but he has no reason to believe he is in this specific case. Now, if ā€˜somehowā€™ they manage to show him that he was - then Iā€™m sure heā€™ll care. The more I think about it, the more I dislike this plot development. Vigilante proclaimed himself to be ā€œundercoverā€. Evil Laurel appears to be getting a redemption arc, despite turning Vigilanteā€™s brains into goo. Whatā€™s going to happen when Cayden James discovers that the video was faked? Heā€™ll join forces with Team Arrow to find out who faked the video and, more importantly, who really killed his son. These super villains are getting less and less villainous and weā€™ll be left with some lackluster not-so-big bads. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2018, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-6/798636/36 "2018-02-03T18:25:13Z")
Iā€™ve probably missed it, but have they lampshaded Wild Dog and Spartan using guns? I thought this was supposed to be a semi-violent team, not a _kill them all and let (insert-deity-of-your-choice) sort them out team_. And by all, of course, I mean just the hired guns, goons, and mooks. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2018, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-6/798636/37 "2018-02-09T15:43:44Z")
How old is William supposed to be? He looks like heā€™s about 12 but heā€™s acting like heā€™s maybe 8. Master villain wants to blow up the whole city, and heā€™s asking why wants to go and take him down. And then he leaves the bunker to said master villains hideout - to do what exactly? Although I shouldnā€™t be calling Cayden James a master villain. His takedown was just so predictable and anticlimactic. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2018, 6:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-6/798636/38 "2018-02-09T18:18:03Z")
What do Wild Dogā€™s and Spartanā€™s guns shoot? They were talking to Canary about the team not being killers while they were shooting bad guys. I love my superhero shows, but the writing is just so, so lazy. They really should go to shorter, 13 episode seasons so they can tell tighter stories and maybe, just maybe, put a little more effort into the writing. Wishful thinking on my part, I know. ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2018, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-6/798636/39 "2018-02-09T18:29:15Z")
> [@D\_Odds](#): > > What do Wild Dogā€™s and Spartanā€™s guns shoot? They were talking to Canary about the team not being killers while they were shooting bad guys. > > I love my superhero shows, but the writing is just so, so lazy. They really should go to shorter, 13 episode seasons so they can tell tighter stories and maybe, just maybe, put a little more effort into the writing. Wishful thinking on my part, I know. Yeah, one of the dumbest things about the show is whether or not itā€™s OK to kill people. Usually, the more evil a person is, the more theyā€™re the boss, the more theyā€™re a real character, the more itā€™s not OK to kill them. Iā€™ve really enjoyed Michael Emerson as Cayden James, but his reaction to learning heā€™d been hoodwinked about his sonā€™s murder was ridiculous. ā€œOK, every single bit of the extraordinarily complex evil plan Iā€™ve been dedicating the last months of my life to, abandoning the principles I presumably once had, is based on a lie. Based on someone who fooled me! And hereā€™s the person who brought me that news. I will react byā€¦ arbitrarily forcing that person to accomplish a random sidequest with an unrealistically short deadline!ā€ Remind meā€¦ had we seen this Diaz guy before he showed up as one of Caydenā€™s team? Was he a character before? Could be interesting to have a big bad who is NOT either mystical or a superarcherninja or anything. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2018, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-6/798636/40 "2018-02-10T00:33:01Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > Iā€™ve really enjoyed Michael Emerson as Cayden James, but his reaction to learning heā€™d been hoodwinked about his sonā€™s murder was ridiculous. ā€œOK, every single bit of the extraordinarily complex evil plan Iā€™ve been dedicating the last months of my life to, abandoning the principles I presumably once had, is based on a lie. Based on someone who fooled me! And hereā€™s the person who brought me that news. I will react byā€¦ arbitrarily forcing that person to accomplish a random sidequest with an unrealistically short deadline!ā€ Youā€™ve just described the bulk of quests in every console and computer RPG. > [@](#): > > Remind meā€¦ had we seen this Diaz guy before he showed up as one of Caydenā€™s team? Was he a character before? Could be interesting to have a big bad who is NOT either mystical or a superarcherninja or anything. Iā€™m fairly familiar with the actor playing Diaz from _Fringe_ and _12 Monkeys_ (among other places), and Iā€™m pretty sure he hadnā€™t been previously introduced. However, I donā€™t always pay the closest attention. And he was able to give Spartan a run for his money in hand-to-hand. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-6/798636.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-6/798636.md?page=3)