# Arrow Season 7 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 10, 2018, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-7/822748 "2018-10-10T13:04:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2018, 1:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-7/822748/1 "2018-10-10T13:04:24Z")
Arrow premieres October 15. I don’t know how many Dopers are still watching this show, but since I’m doing the other Arrowverse shows, I’ll throw this one in for completeness. The trailers, at least, look interesting enough. Comic Con trailer: [Arrow Trailer (Season 7) - Comic Con 2018 - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5J9h0HPklE) Season 7 trailer: [- YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVxaVnFwXUc) Cast changes: Colton Hayes rejoins as Roy Harper/Arsenal. Willa Holland (Thea Queen) and Paul Blackthorne (Quentin Lance) will no longer be part of the cast. ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2018, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-7/822748/2 "2018-10-10T18:30:48Z")
This past season I enjoyed Arrow more than either Flash or Supergirl. (I’ve never watched Legends of Tomorrow, but heard that it’s gotten REALLY good recently). I think Arrow has done the best job of having a tone and sticking too it. Flash has been all over the place, and Supergirl is way too much happy inspiring girl power and not enough storytelling and excitement and plot and plausibility. (Melissa Benoist continues to just NAIL it, however.) ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [October 10, 2018, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-7/822748/3 "2018-10-10T23:56:06Z")
I plan on watching. Thea was very annoying in the early season(s), but improved greatly. I thought the Diaz was a bit too omnipotent/omniscient last season. Brian ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [October 11, 2018, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-7/822748/4 "2018-10-11T00:42:27Z")
> [@N9IWP](#): > > I plan on watching. Thea was very annoying in the early season(s), but improved greatly. I really didn’t notice the improvement. I also always thought the Roy Harper actor wasn’t up to snuff either. The Vancouver talent pool is pretty thin. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [October 13, 2018, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-7/822748/5 "2018-10-13T01:51:06Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > (I’ve never watched Legends of Tomorrow, but heard that it’s gotten REALLY good recently). _Legends_ is the show that managed to salvage Damian Darhk from the shambles of _Arrow_ season 4 and turn him into an outstanding villain. Twice. Watch _Legends_ and thank Beebo for the gift. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2018, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-7/822748/6 "2018-10-15T11:51:37Z")
_Arrow_ season 7 premieres tonight. Episode summary: _Following Oliver’s shocking decision to turn himself over to the FBI and reveal his identity as the Green Arrow to the public, Oliver has spent the past five months in Slabside Maximum Security Prison. Determined to keep a low profile to shorten his sentence for the sake of his family, Oliver is tested when he runs into old foes. Meanwhile, Diggle and Dinah have taken on new jobs and left their costumes behind but not everyone is following suit. With her focus on William, Felicity tries to start over but when someone from her past resurfaces, things become complicated._ I am somewhat disappointed that Olivers prisoner number isn’t 24601. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2018, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-7/822748/7 "2018-10-16T07:21:06Z")
Random thoughts while watching the premiere: Hooray, Diaz finally took out Felicity! Oh, it’s just a dream. Boo! Later: Diaz is losing his touch. He almost got taken out by Felicity. Lian Yu again? Didn’t that place got blown up real good? Another flashback? I thought they weren’t going to do those anymore. Later: Oh, it’s a flashforward. _Arrow_ doesn’t really know how to do flashforwards. (See graveyard scene in Season 4.) Good to see Vinnie Jones back on the screen, now that _Deception_’s been cancelled. Later: That was it? I thought his head was harder than that. Has the news always been on channel 52? Because News 52. ---
**Author:** ![MaxTheVool](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9fc29f/32.png) [@MaxTheVool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MaxTheVool)\ **Post date:** [October 17, 2018, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-7/822748/8 "2018-10-17T20:01:31Z")
I may be the only person who really enjoys Diaz as a villain. The actor is just so magnetic. That said, I guess we’re supposed to assume that Argus showed up just in time to save Felicity but not in time to actually capture him? That seems a bit silly. Decent start to the season. Any speculation on who the fake Green Arrow is? Roy Harper has to be the obvious speculation, right? Since when is evil Laurel the DA. And is she still evil? I’ve completely forgotten. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2018, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-7/822748/9 "2018-10-18T17:01:35Z")
Roy is the obvious candidate for fake Green Arrow. Could also be Diggle. Could also be future grown up William, come back in time. Evil Laurel claimed to be dead Laurel, so the former basically took over the latter’s whole life. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2018, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-7/822748/10 "2018-10-22T07:12:45Z")
The Longbow Hunters promo: [- YouTube](https://youtu.be/V6gAwmTl-MI) **FELICITY IS DETERMINED TO FIND DIAZ AT ANY COST** - _In order to track down Diaz from inside prison, Oliver realizes that will require aligning with an old enemy. Meanwhile, in Star City, Felicity’s attempts to root out Diaz are thwarted by Diggle, whose allegiance to ARGUS now requires him to keep civilians like her on the outs. Realizing that she can no longer rely on her old team or old methods, a clear-eyed Felicity resolves to find a new way to go after Diaz._ ---
**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\ **Post date:** [October 22, 2018, 2:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-7/822748/11 "2018-10-22T14:07:14Z")
> [@MaxTheVool](#): > > Decent start to the season. Any speculation on who the fake Green Arrow is? Roy Harper has to be the obvious speculation, right? I was thinking Speedy - I thought there was bust-line when they showed faux-Arrow working on the arsenal? ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [October 23, 2018, 7:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-7/822748/12 "2018-10-23T07:19:01Z")
Two episodes into the season and I’m already tired of Felicity’s whining. They better get Diaz soon if only to shut her up. Why was the gang of Diaz’s baddies called the Longbow Hunters? They didn’t wield any bows nor did anyone they were fighting against, neither ARGUS nor Team No-Arrow. In fact, there was a dearth of bows and arrows this episode. They were only shown in the flashforward segments and never in fact used. The highlight of the episode was the Black Siren+Black Canary team up. There could be a whole show with just those two taking down baddies. ---
**Author:** ![Licentious\_Ectomorph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/5e9695/32.png) [@Licentious\_Ectomorph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Licentious_Ectomorph)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2018, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-7/822748/13 "2018-10-25T22:39:51Z")
It’s possible that this was all explained at some point and my memory is failing me. After Good Laurel was killed, it became public knowledge that she was the Black Canary - a statue of her was erected and everything. So now that Bad Laurel has taken her place, how is Laurel’s return from the dead being explained to the public? Also, why wasn’t Bad Laurel the prime suspect for being the Black Canary when the team was under investigation and it was known that there was a Canary running around? ALSO also, is Bad Laurel qualified to be the D.A.? I suppose I could grudgingly buy that she was a lawyer on her Earth, but I don’t recall that having been established, and years of rigorous schooling and dedication to public service don’t seem to be her thing. She wouldn’t be able to fake it for very long. Edit: misspelling ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2018, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-7/822748/14 "2018-10-26T05:14:39Z")
Evil Laurel read some law books while she was rooming with Quentin Lance. That makes her as qualified as anyone else to be Star City DA. They’ll never openly admit this, but Evil Laurel slotting smoothly into OG Laurel’s life is the _Arrow_ writers’ tacit acknowledgement that killing Laurel in the first place was a mistake. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2018, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-7/822748/15 "2018-10-29T13:32:59Z")
Crossing Lines promo: [- YouTube](https://youtu.be/PN_wG5_ttW4) **CURTIS GOES UNDERCOVER FOR ARGUS** - _Still in prison, Oliver faces his biggest challenge yet. Meanwhile, Felicity gets an intriguing offer, and Diggle asks Curtis to go undercover for ARGUS._ ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2018, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-7/822748/16 "2018-10-30T13:27:48Z")
Felicity, or rather Emily Bett Rickards, does righteous indignation much, much better than moping and weeping. I quite enjoyed her goading Agent Watson into going off the reservation to catch Diaz. Too bad Diaz got away and Watson got kicked back to DC. What was the MacGuffin that Diaz stole from the CDC? Mirakuru? I think we’ve seen this plotline before. I thought Oliver would be on his way out of prison by now but apparently he’s going to Level 2. Will they have naked shower fights there? He’d better be out in time for the crossover. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2018, 1:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-7/822748/17 "2018-11-05T13:21:22Z")
Level Two promo: [- YouTube](https://youtu.be/AvGE-jisUIw) **RULES ARE MADE TO BE BROKEN** - _Oliver makes a drastic move in his quest to find Diaz. Like her husband, Felicity pulls out all the stops to get to Diaz. Meanwhile, when arsonists target Rene’s community center, injuring Zoe (guest star Eliza Faria) in the process, the mysterious new Green Arrow swoops in to help save the day. Faced with pressure from the mayor to capture the vigilante, Dinah must decide if following the rules at all costs is the best plan to keep the city safe._ ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [November 6, 2018, 11:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-7/822748/18 "2018-11-06T11:00:33Z")
_The Flash_ melts one Beebo with acid and cryogenically shatters three others. _Supergirl_ tramples a Beebo into the mud. Meanwhile, _Arrow_ gives Beebo to an injured girl to provide her some comfort; there may be hope for this show yet. Oliver’s scenes in Level 2 were extremely tiresome. How many times are we going to go over the same old ground? We get it already. Future Star City, with Dinah silenced and Zoe taking up the mantle of Black Canary, appears to be leading up to the craptastic city we saw in the _Legends_ episode “Star City 2046”, with an embittered one-armed Oliver Queen and John Diggle Jr going by the name Connor Hawke. Does anyone believe Felicity is really dead? ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2018, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-7/822748/19 "2018-11-12T14:34:28Z")
The Demon promo: [- YouTube](https://youtu.be/mmoFBDUnCso) **FELICTY DISCOVERS A SECRET ABOUT OLIVER; CURTIS GOES UNDERCOVER** - _Felicity learns something new about Oliver that shocks her. Meanwhile, Diggle asks Curtis to go undercover for ARGUS. Dinah works with an unlikely ally._ ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [November 13, 2018, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-7/822748/20 "2018-11-13T06:27:13Z")
Talia! Hallway fight scene! The season is coming together pretty nicely. Did you catch the Gotham reference? The Felicity+Dinah+Evil Laurel teamup was like a budget Birds of Prey. They worked pretty well together. It was a better display of #Feminism than _The Flash_. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arrow-season-7/822748.md?page=2)