# Arsonists- May They Rot In Hell
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arsonists-may-they-rot-in-hell/484898
**Category:** The BBQ Pit
**Created:** [February 8, 2009, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arsonists-may-they-rot-in-hell/484898 "2009-02-08T05:34:48Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)
#### Post date: [February 8, 2009, 5:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arsonists-may-they-rot-in-hell/484898/1 "2009-02-08T05:34:48Z")
As you would be aware from the posts on the boards here, the southern states of Australia- Victoria in particular, have deen hit extremely hard by bushfires. There are 36 confirmed dead so far- a toll that will certainly rise.
Towns like Marysvillie and Kingslake virtually no longer exist. People have lost not only their lives, but all their possessions and homes.
Yet there are still arseholes going around lighting fires and relighting those that have been bought under control. May those bastards rot in hell forever.
[Story.](http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2009/02/08/2485538.htm)
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### Author:  [@bmoak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bmoak)
#### Post date: [February 8, 2009, 6:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arsonists-may-they-rot-in-hell/484898/2 "2009-02-08T06:07:36Z")
Wouldn’t “Arsonists- May They Burn in Hell” be a better thread title?
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### Author:  [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)
#### Post date: [February 8, 2009, 6:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arsonists-may-they-rot-in-hell/484898/3 "2009-02-08T06:11:40Z")
Point taken.
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### Author:  [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)
#### Post date: [February 8, 2009, 6:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arsonists-may-they-rot-in-hell/484898/4 "2009-02-08T06:18:33Z")
If these jerks are caught, what is done with them, what kind of charges?
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### Author:  [@DellieM](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DellieM)
#### Post date: [February 8, 2009, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arsonists-may-they-rot-in-hell/484898/5 "2009-02-08T06:21:07Z")
Hell is too good for them. I hope if caught they are forced to actually go to a burns unit and see the result of their handiwork. A friend’s daughter suffered horrible burns to her hands and legs after stumbling into hot coals of a campfire that wasn’t completely out. As a result I have visited a burns unit - and they are horrible places. Then I want them publicly flogged until the skin flays from their bodies. Fuckers. Words can’t express my horror, comtempt and outright hatred for these poor excuses for humans.
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### Author:  [@Cunctator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cunctator)
#### Post date: [February 8, 2009, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arsonists-may-they-rot-in-hell/484898/6 "2009-02-08T06:23:11Z")
> [@Baker](#):
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> If these jerks are caught, what is done with them, what kind of charges?
From the Crimes Act (Vic) 1958, s197A:
> [@](#):
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> 197A. Arson causing death
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> A person who commits arson as defined in section 197 and thereby causes the
> death of another person is guilty of an indictable offence. Penalty: Level 2
> imprisonment (25 years maximum).
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### Author:  [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)
#### Post date: [February 8, 2009, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arsonists-may-they-rot-in-hell/484898/7 "2009-02-08T06:33:27Z")
> [@Baker](#):
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> If these jerks are caught, what is done with them, what kind of charges?
I think there is a 15 year penalty. I don’t know if that has ever been imposed.
Sorry- Cunctator beat me.
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### Author:  [@Richard\_Pearse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Pearse)
#### Post date: [February 8, 2009, 6:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arsonists-may-they-rot-in-hell/484898/8 "2009-02-08T06:41:21Z")
> [@DellieM](#):
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> Hell is too good for them. I hope if caught they are forced to actually go to a burns unit and see the result of their handiwork.
Or not, they might like it :(.
I can understand the basic fascination with fire that an arsonist presumably has, fire is pretty cool stuff, but beyond that they’re just monsters.
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### Author:  [@Vox\_Imperatoris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vox_Imperatoris)
#### Post date: [February 8, 2009, 6:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arsonists-may-they-rot-in-hell/484898/9 "2009-02-08T06:49:26Z")
This is why I believe in capital punishment.
Valete,
Vox Imperatoris
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### Author:  [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)
#### Post date: [February 8, 2009, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arsonists-may-they-rot-in-hell/484898/10 "2009-02-08T06:50:59Z")
65 dead now. Unbelievable.
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### Author:  [@madrabbitwoman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madrabbitwoman)
#### Post date: [February 8, 2009, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arsonists-may-they-rot-in-hell/484898/11 "2009-02-08T07:40:12Z")
Looks like they may face murder charges
[http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,25024501-29277,00.html?from=public\_rss](http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,25024501-29277,00.html?from=public_rss)
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### Author:  [@Junior\_Spaceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Junior_Spaceman)
#### Post date: [February 8, 2009, 7:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arsonists-may-they-rot-in-hell/484898/12 "2009-02-08T07:45:42Z")
There’s just no punishment suitable for these pieces of shit. Even worse (as if we needed it), it so often turns out that they’re fire fighters (volunteer or otherwise).
To put it in perspective, they have (collectively if it was more than one, which it seems there were/are) so far murdered twice as many as Martin Bryant at Port Arthur, along with making perhaps thousands homeless, and they’re still free.
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### Author:  [@robinc308](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/robinc308)
#### Post date: [February 8, 2009, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arsonists-may-they-rot-in-hell/484898/13 "2009-02-08T07:46:42Z")
I hope they get everything coming to them.
Kids in Australia are brought up understanding the danger of fire: starting a bushfire when you KNOW what is likely to happen is beyond evil.
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### Author:  [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)
#### Post date: [February 8, 2009, 10:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arsonists-may-they-rot-in-hell/484898/14 "2009-02-08T10:04:28Z")
Marysville was an adorable little town. It’s so sad to know it’s completely gone ☹
On Friday when the News was all about warning that Saturday would be the worst day yet, I was quite skeptical that they could be so certain. But wow, it has surpassed even their predictions!
It’s so tragic.
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### Author:  [@Cicero](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cicero)
#### Post date: [February 8, 2009, 10:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arsonists-may-they-rot-in-hell/484898/15 "2009-02-08T10:16:12Z")
Balmain boys don’t cry. Nor do Brisbane boys. This brings me close.
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### Author:  [@Kayeby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kayeby)
#### Post date: [February 8, 2009, 11:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arsonists-may-they-rot-in-hell/484898/16 "2009-02-08T11:12:56Z")
> [@robinc308](#):
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> Kids in Australia are brought up understanding the danger of fire: starting a bushfire when you KNOW what is likely to happen is beyond evil.
Absolutely. There is no excuse.
There are reports of bodies burned beyond recognition. Of cars that have been hastily abandoned, with the doors still open and completely burned through.
I didn’t know that people had been going around re-lighting the fires that were already under control. That takes a special kind of evil.
> [@](#):
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> Ms Nixon also confirmed that refrigerated shipping containers may be needed to hold the dead.
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> ``[That] is the next phase and we certainly have them available and able to be used … it might not be the right thing for people’s dignity, but that’s what we’ll have to do.
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> ``We’ll treat people with dignity, though … you need to know we will treat them properly.‘’
I cried like a baby.
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### Author:  [@Caught\_Work](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caught_Work)
#### Post date: [February 8, 2009, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arsonists-may-they-rot-in-hell/484898/17 "2009-02-08T11:18:21Z")
Channel 9 veteran Brian Naylor confirmed dead in Kinglake fires
[http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25025527-5006785,00.html](http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25025527-5006785,00.html)
The fires are about 10km from my mothers home in Alexandra, but she’s safe in Melbourne with other relatives. There are two large fire breaks that have been cut around Alexandra as that’s where the hospital is, so hopefully the break will contain the fire before it can wreak its devastation there as well.
I do hope they catch the loony who lit the fires and I trust in our justice system to take care of it. I don’t wish death upon anyone, just natural justice.
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### Author:  [@Isamu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Isamu)
#### Post date: [February 8, 2009, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arsonists-may-they-rot-in-hell/484898/18 "2009-02-08T11:35:59Z")
> [@GuanoLad](#):
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> Marysville was an adorable little town. It’s so sad to know it’s completely gone ☹
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> On Friday when the News was all about warning that Saturday would be the worst day yet, I was quite skeptical that they could be so certain. But wow, it has surpassed even their predictions!
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> It’s so tragic.
Holy shit!! Marysville gone? I used to go there often as a young man. It was one of the most perfect villages on the face of the earth. People who have never been there won’t understand. ☹
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### Author:  [@calm\_kiwi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/calm_kiwi)
#### Post date: [February 8, 2009, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arsonists-may-they-rot-in-hell/484898/19 "2009-02-08T11:40:20Z")
> [@Kayeby](#):
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> Absolutely. There is no excuse.
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> There are reports of bodies burned beyond recognition. Of cars that have been hastily abandoned, with the doors still open and completely burned through.
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> I didn’t know that people had been going around re-lighting the fires that were already under control. That takes a special kind of evil.
Fuck that is just hideous. The lucky country has had some big hits in the last couple of years.
Let’s just hope an arsonist becomes his only victim.
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### Author:  [@Cazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cazzle)
#### Post date: [February 8, 2009, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arsonists-may-they-rot-in-hell/484898/20 "2009-02-08T12:06:05Z")
> [@Caught\_Work](#):
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> Channel 9 veteran Brian Naylor confirmed dead in Kinglake fires
> [http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25025527-5006785,00.html](http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,25025527-5006785,00.html)
[Brian told me so](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viDHbHLKeH8).
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