# Arthur, movie.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arthur-movie/618619>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [April 13, 2012, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arthur-movie/618619 "2012-04-13T00:14:54Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Mewl\_Dear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Mewl\_Dear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mewl_Dear)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arthur-movie/618619/1 "2012-04-13T00:14:54Z")

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Is that the funniest thing ever?  
It is on TCM.

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**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arthur-movie/618619/2 "2012-04-13T01:24:38Z")

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You obviously have a wonderful economy with words. I look forward to your next syllable with great eagerness.

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**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arthur-movie/618619/3 "2012-04-13T01:45:00Z")

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Don’t you hate Perry’s wife?

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**Author:** ![wheresmymind](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/91b2a8/32.png) [@wheresmymind](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wheresmymind)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arthur-movie/618619/4 "2012-04-13T02:26:48Z")

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“A real woman could make you stop drinking.”

“It would have to be a really big woman.”

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arthur-movie/618619/5 "2012-04-13T03:06:52Z")

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“Steal something casual.”

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**Author:** ![Equipoise](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/equipoise/32/151_2.png) [@Equipoise](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Equipoise)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arthur-movie/618619/6 "2012-04-13T03:22:24Z")

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I assume you’re talking about the original, but I’m one of the few people in the universe (along with my husband) who actually liked the remake with Russell Brand, who I think is a decent actor who will only get better. I never judged it compared to the original, because it had been decades since I’d seen the original\*. I never judged it on trendy snarkhate of Russell Brand, because I only knew him from **Forgetting Sarah Marshall** and **Get Him To The Greek** , both of which I liked, and liked him in them. One of the biggest advantages of not watching television or following celebrity gossip is I can judge people on their own merits in a movie, without extra baggage attached.

So, I thought the remake was funny, sweet and poignant. It made me laugh, and it moved me, quite a feat for such a trifle.

- I think I thought the original was good, from what I remember. I love Gielgud and Moore, but I can’t stand Liza Minnelli though, so I never saw it twice. I really only remember the line “I’ll alert the media.”

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**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arthur-movie/618619/7 "2012-04-13T12:41:45Z")

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I didn’t care much for the original. Arthur himself was funny, and his butler was funnier, but ultimately it went soggy. Liza Minnelli didn’t help; she was miscast and no longer able to play that sort of role.

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**Author:** ![corkboard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@corkboard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/corkboard)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arthur-movie/618619/8 "2012-04-13T12:54:12Z")

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He’s taking the knife out of the cheese! Do you think he wants some cheese?!?!

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**Author:** ![LionelHutz405](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lionelhutz405/32/536_2.png) [@LionelHutz405](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LionelHutz405)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arthur-movie/618619/9 "2012-04-13T12:54:30Z")

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"You’re a hooker? Jesus, I forgot! I just thought I was doing GREAT with you! "

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**Author:** ![Satchmo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/satchmo/32/4223_2.png) [@Satchmo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Satchmo)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 12:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arthur-movie/618619/10 "2012-04-13T12:59:24Z")

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“Where’s the rest of this moose?”

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**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arthur-movie/618619/11 "2012-04-13T13:41:42Z")

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“Nobody in our family drinks.”  
“You must never run out of ice.”

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**Author:** ![Fiddle\_Peghead](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiddle_peghead/32/3506_2.png) [@Fiddle\_Peghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiddle_Peghead)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arthur-movie/618619/12 "2012-04-13T14:45:19Z")

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> [@Mewl\_Dear](#):
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> It is on TCM.

I’ll alert the media.

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**Author:** ![Bytegeist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9dc877/32.png) [@Bytegeist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bytegeist)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arthur-movie/618619/13 "2012-04-13T14:45:25Z")

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\*A hot bath is wonderful! **Girls** are wonderful!

Yes. Imagine how wonderful a girl who **bathes** would be. Get dressed.  
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**Author:** ![corkboard](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e9bcb4/32.png) [@corkboard](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/corkboard)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 4:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arthur-movie/618619/14 "2012-04-13T16:08:10Z")

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Perhaps you’d like me to come in and wash your dick for you, you little shit.

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**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arthur-movie/618619/15 "2012-04-13T16:26:00Z")

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Usually one must go to a bowling alley to meet a women of your stature.

We’re going to be like one of those poor couples on the subway…we’ll hold hands. How much _is_ the subway? Sixty cents, but if you spit its a five hundred dollar fine. Then…I \*\*\*won’t \*\*\*spit.

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**Author:** ![SirRay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/cc9497/32.png) [@SirRay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SirRay)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arthur-movie/618619/16 "2012-04-13T17:12:10Z")

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> [@RealityChuck](#):
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> I didn’t care much for the original. Arthur himself was funny, and his butler was funnier, but ultimately it went soggy. Liza Minnelli didn’t help; she was miscast and no longer able to play that sort of role.

Actually, I just saw it last night for the first time (and I’m in my mid-40s), and while I agree it got somewhat slow in the Butler-dying segment, I thought Liza Minnelli seemed fine for her part - why do you thing she was miscast/no longer able to play such a role? Heck, Dudley Moore was 45-46 when he film the movie, and I got the impression his character was supposed to be someone in his mid-30s - I think he pulled it off.

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**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arthur-movie/618619/17 "2012-04-13T17:26:25Z")

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“No, if she had murdered the tie it would be a perfect crime.”

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**Author:** ![astorian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ad7895/32.png) [@astorian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astorian)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arthur-movie/618619/18 "2012-04-13T18:50:23Z")

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I never saw the remake, and I haven’t seen the original with Dudley Moore in at least 25 years.

My recollection is that the original \*\*\*Arthur \*\*\*was fairly amusing and Dudley Moore was charming and ikable (something I’ve never heard anyone say about Russell Brand).

But… where the movie fell apart for me was that we in the audience were EXPECTED to believe that Arthur’s wealthy fiancee (Jill Eikenberry) was a dreary witch, and that he’d be infinitely happier with the shoplifting waitress played by Liza Minelli.

Huh?

Sorry, but I didn’t buy that, nor would any hetero male. Arthur’s fiancee was preferable in EVERY imaginable way to Liza Minelli. Richer, better looking, nicer, not a felon… sorry, I don’t see any sane reason he’d cast her aside for Liza.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arthur-movie/618619/19 "2012-04-13T18:53:16Z")

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> [@astorian](#):
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> But… where the movie fell apart for me was that we in the audience were EXPECTED to believe that Arthur’s wealthy fiancee (Jill Eikenberry) was a dreary witch, and that he’d be infinitely happier with the shoplifting waitress played by Liza Minelli.

I didn’t see her as a dreary witch at all, in fact she was a nice person, just a somewhat pathetic princess who he wasn’t in love with and who wouldn’t accept she wasn’t going to fix this guy.

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**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\
**Post date:** [April 13, 2012, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/arthur-movie/618619/20 "2012-04-13T19:59:01Z")

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I race cars, play tennis, and fondle women, BUT! I have weekends off, and I am my own boss.

I take it this bum will be calling you?  
Dad! He’s a millionaire.  
You have my permission to marry him.

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