# Article about the fall of Saturn Motors?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/article-about-the-fall-of-saturn-motors/589914>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [July 21, 2011, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/article-about-the-fall-of-saturn-motors/589914 "2011-07-21T23:24:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/article-about-the-fall-of-saturn-motors/589914/21 "2011-07-26T18:08:03Z")

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The reason is that Buick is very popular in China, selling over 300,000 vehicles in 2007.

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 6:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/article-about-the-fall-of-saturn-motors/589914/22 "2011-07-26T18:14:18Z")

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I loved my Saturn ION. Sadly, I made the decision to trade it in. I now own a Chevy Cruze. It’s all right, but it ain’t no Saturn. And I’ll never buy another GM car ever again. It’s debateable whether I’ll ever buy another American made car again. The auto unions have destroyed the American car industry.

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**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/article-about-the-fall-of-saturn-motors/589914/23 "2011-07-26T19:21:48Z")

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> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#):
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> Odd thing I remember: When Saturn came out they produce a very simple TV ad with the car and a single word ‘Hi’. It was oddly effective and the Saturn became very popular with Generation X.  
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Except the “Hi” ads were for the Plymouth/Dodge Neon. (Story [here](http://jalopnik.com/5458787/the-ad-campaign-that-doomed-plymouth-the-cute-neon-says-hi), YouTube three-for [here](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=64rRvfMW44o).) And they didn’t work.

Saturns were good cars, but better options were available. The drivetrain was reliable, but holy crap did they rattle. It was like a Yatzee tournament inside the dashboard.

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**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/article-about-the-fall-of-saturn-motors/589914/24 "2011-07-26T19:44:28Z")

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> [@Mr.Miskatonic](#):
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> Odd thing I remember: When Saturn came out they produce a very simple TV ad with the car and a single word ‘Hi’.

the “Hi.” campaign was for the Dodge/Plymouth Neon, not Saturn.

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**Author:** ![jz78817](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jz78817/32/1028_2.png) [@jz78817](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jz78817)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/article-about-the-fall-of-saturn-motors/589914/25 "2011-07-26T19:46:45Z")

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> [@Clothahump](#):
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> I loved my Saturn ION. Sadly, I made the decision to trade it in. I now own a Chevy Cruze. It’s all right, but it ain’t no Saturn. And I’ll never buy another GM car ever again. It’s debateable whether I’ll ever buy another American made car again. The auto unions have destroyed the American car industry.

oh good lord. I suggest you do just a little bit of reading on what actually drove the industry into the ground.

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**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/article-about-the-fall-of-saturn-motors/589914/26 "2011-07-26T19:56:12Z")

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> [@Tastes\_of\_Chocolate](#):
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> We’ve owned 2 Saturns, and the second one, 10 years old, will probably be replaced in the next year. It’s not fun to drive. It’s not exciting. It doesn’t go Zoom Zoom. A Saturn was a basic, boring car that got you from point A to point B. Once Saturn forgot about that, and got absorbed back into the parent company, the cars were no longer worth buying.

My first one was a '93, and that one was good looking (the teenage kid next door actually thought it was a cool car) and fun to drive. My next one, a '98, was boring. However, the first one died to save my wife. She was driving it, and a guy ran a red light and hit her right at the driver side front door. She emerged with very minor injuries - not even a hospital stay, though the car was of course totaled. Damn fine construction.  
The second one finally died last year after 160K miles. But they never were the kind of cars they were at the beginning.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/article-about-the-fall-of-saturn-motors/589914/27 "2011-07-26T20:02:44Z")

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I thought the Saturn Sky/Pontiac Solstice was a nice looking car. I thought GM might have continued to sell it, perhaps rebranded as a Chevy, but they didn’t.

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**Author:** ![Throatwarbler\_Mangrove](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8c91f0/32.png) [@Throatwarbler\_Mangrove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Throatwarbler_Mangrove)\
**Post date:** [July 26, 2011, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/article-about-the-fall-of-saturn-motors/589914/28 "2011-07-26T20:39:27Z")

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> [@Morgenstern](#):
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> I always wonder how GM could pull the plug on Pontiac, Oldsmobile and Saturn, yet keep Buick. I’ve never understood that decision.

Not only is Buick popular in China, it has always done quite well in the US as well, but since they made boring, quiet, cushy cars and cater to a mostly older audience, it just sort of chugged along without a whole lot of fanfare. By the time the bankruptcy came about Buick already had 2 cars, the Enclave and the Lacrosse, that were very well regarded by the automotive press and extremely successful in terms of sales, with more Opel derived products in the pipeline. WIth GM’s brand downsizing Buick nicely fills the middle ground between Chevy and Cadillac and has been one of the most successful brands in the industry.

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