# Article in New Yorker about Trump's internal war with his generals

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Tags:** trump\
**Created:** [August 8, 2022, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/article-in-new-yorker-about-trumps-internal-war-with-his-generals/969323 "2022-08-08T20:03:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![Daithi\_Lacha](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daithi_lacha/32/5430_2.png) [@Daithi\_Lacha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daithi_Lacha)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/article-in-new-yorker-about-trumps-internal-war-with-his-generals/969323/21 "2022-08-09T15:23:53Z")

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My fear would be that you would need a fairly compelling or charismatic lead to play DJT in a series, and that runs the risk of glamorizing a monster. And who could possibly play him? John Goodman?

I realize this is a highjack, so let’s not pursue it here.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 3:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/article-in-new-yorker-about-trumps-internal-war-with-his-generals/969323/22 "2022-08-09T15:44:39Z")

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> [@Daithi\_Lacha](#):
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> And who could possibly play him?

Surely one of these guys is still alive and available,

[![](https://nerdsthatgeek.com/uploads/3/4/3/4/34346897/published/sttos215.jpg) ](https://nerdsthatgeek.com/uploads/3/4/3/4/34346897/published/sttos215.jpg)

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/article-in-new-yorker-about-trumps-internal-war-with-his-generals/969323/23 "2022-08-09T17:28:07Z")

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> [@Daithi\_Lacha](#):
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> My fear would be that you would need a fairly compelling or charismatic lead to play DJT in a series, and that runs the risk of glamorizing a monster.

Not really, you can have a grotesque portrayal that is nevertheless mesmerizing to watch.

I suggest Vincent D’Onofrio. Fantastic actor with a wide range, and he was great at playing Wilson Fisk (The Kingpin of Crime) in Daredevil and Hawkeye.

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**Author:** ![teelabrown](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/teelabrown/32/8412_2.png) [@teelabrown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/teelabrown)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/article-in-new-yorker-about-trumps-internal-war-with-his-generals/969323/24 "2022-08-09T17:37:40Z")

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Gary Oldman would also do an awesome job.

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/article-in-new-yorker-about-trumps-internal-war-with-his-generals/969323/25 "2022-08-09T17:45:39Z")

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No, he’s playing Giuliani,

[![](http://www.scifimoviepage.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Zorg_head.jpg) ](http://www.scifimoviepage.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/Zorg_head.jpg)

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/article-in-new-yorker-about-trumps-internal-war-with-his-generals/969323/26 "2022-08-09T17:49:47Z")

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D’Onofrio could pull off the physical presence of the fat slob, it doesn’t seem like a Gary Oldman role to me, but he’s a great actor who has surprised me before. I don’t think it’s a great role for an actor though, Trump is not multi-dimensional. That nutbag traitor Flynn would be a good role for Oldman.

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**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/article-in-new-yorker-about-trumps-internal-war-with-his-generals/969323/27 "2022-08-09T17:57:54Z")

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I bet Christian Bale has told his agent to get the word out to every production company in the world that he really really wants to be the grossest, orangest, spittiest version of Trump there ever was.

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**Author:** ![Daithi\_Lacha](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/daithi_lacha/32/5430_2.png) [@Daithi\_Lacha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Daithi_Lacha)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/article-in-new-yorker-about-trumps-internal-war-with-his-generals/969323/28 "2022-08-09T17:58:48Z")

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Screw it, let’s just get Alec Baldwin.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/article-in-new-yorker-about-trumps-internal-war-with-his-generals/969323/29 "2022-08-09T19:04:58Z")

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Bale might even put on actual weight for the role. A steady diet of Big Macs and Diet Cokes.

> **[Christian Bale’s 'Black Coffee Fast' May Be the Craziest Body Transformation...](https://www.menshealth.com/uk/fitness/lifestyle/a32457640/christian-bale-machinist-body/)**
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> To match the requirements for his role in The Machinist, Bale deployed a brutal dietary change. Here's how he did it

Then again, he said he’d never want to do that sort of thing again according to that article, so maybe not.

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**Author:** ![anny\_m](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/96bed5/32.png) [@anny\_m](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anny_m)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/article-in-new-yorker-about-trumps-internal-war-with-his-generals/969323/30 "2022-08-09T21:34:47Z")

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I have long thought it’s a shame that Rodney Dangerfield is no longer with us. Trump reminds me of him.

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**Author:** ![Aspenglow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aspenglow/32/76_2.png) [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)\
**Post date:** [August 9, 2022, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/article-in-new-yorker-about-trumps-internal-war-with-his-generals/969323/31 "2022-08-09T21:35:47Z")

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Trump makes Rodney Dangerfield look classy.

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**Post date:** [August 10, 2022, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/article-in-new-yorker-about-trumps-internal-war-with-his-generals/969323/32 "2022-08-10T06:30:25Z")

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> [@Atamasama](#):
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> I suggest Vincent D’Onofrio. Fantastic actor with a wide range, and he was great at playing Wilson Fisk (The Kingpin of Crime) in Daredevil and Hawkeye.

He played the bug man from outer space in the first MIB movie, so I agree he would be a perfect choice. He just might worry about typecasting.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2022, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/article-in-new-yorker-about-trumps-internal-war-with-his-generals/969323/33 "2022-08-10T16:16:26Z")

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One more thing that I feel should be said on the subject of believability:

These people are all real, living humans with phone numbers - many of whom have even been on Fox News.

Righty Media loves it when they can show that the Lefty Media is making stuff up, and does every time that they can (not terribly often, but it does happen). So if, now, they’re avoiding the story like the plague or acting like somehow they can’t just call up these guys and ask, “Is it true?” It’s because they know the answer.

The same with the Jan 6 hearings: _Surely, the video testimony is all **creatively edited** to make it seem like Trump’s folks are throwing him under the bus. But gee, if only we could call up his former employees whose testimony was shown, to find out whether that’s all it is… Must have lost their phone numbers, sorry!_

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**Post date:** [August 10, 2022, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/article-in-new-yorker-about-trumps-internal-war-with-his-generals/969323/34 "2022-08-10T17:15:49Z")

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As I’ve said, Fox News keeps leaving off the second half of their motto, _Fair and Balanced_ [My Ass].

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**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2022, 6:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/article-in-new-yorker-about-trumps-internal-war-with-his-generals/969323/35 "2022-08-10T18:25:54Z")

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Mmm… Shatner or a tribble…

Decisions! Decisions!

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**Post date:** [August 10, 2022, 6:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/article-in-new-yorker-about-trumps-internal-war-with-his-generals/969323/36 "2022-08-10T18:35:45Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> Mmm… Shatner or a tribble…

Both!

The tribble, of course, would play that alien parasite thing attached to his head.

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**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\
**Post date:** [August 10, 2022, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/article-in-new-yorker-about-trumps-internal-war-with-his-generals/969323/37 "2022-08-10T18:38:15Z")

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“Why can’t you guys be more like the Nazis?” said no sane boss ever.

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**Author:** ![Horatius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/horatius/32/3572_2.png) [@Horatius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatius)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/article-in-new-yorker-about-trumps-internal-war-with-his-generals/969323/38 "2022-08-11T12:08:12Z")

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I’d bet good money Mussolini said that at least once, completely unironically.

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**Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 12:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/article-in-new-yorker-about-trumps-internal-war-with-his-generals/969323/39 "2022-08-11T12:10:31Z")

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No doubt he did. Mussolini’s sanity, or at least non-psychopathic-ness, was/is somewhat in question though.

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**Author:** ![Moriarty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/moriarty/32/49_2.png) [@Moriarty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moriarty)\
**Post date:** [August 11, 2022, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/article-in-new-yorker-about-trumps-internal-war-with-his-generals/969323/40 "2022-08-11T13:41:02Z")

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> [@Horatius](#):
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> I’d bet good money Mussolini said that at least once

I’d take that bet. Do you really think Mussolini spoke English when exasperated?

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