# Article questions if Big Bang happened (scientific article)

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/article-questions-if-big-bang-happened-scientific-article/713805
**Category:** Factual Questions
**Created:** [February 27, 2015, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/article-questions-if-big-bang-happened-scientific-article/713805 "2015-02-27T22:18:43Z")
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### Author: ![Robert163](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@Robert163](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert163)
#### Post date: [February 27, 2015, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/article-questions-if-big-bang-happened-scientific-article/713805/1 "2015-02-27T22:18:43Z")

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I hadn’t see this posted and thought people might be interested:

> **[Big Bang, Deflated? Universe May Have Had No Beginning](https://www.space.com/28681-theory-no-big-bang.html?cmpid=514630_20150227_41253006&adbid=10152664471921466&adbpl=fb&adbpr=17610706465)**
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> A new way to reconcile quantum theory and general relativity implies that the universe is infinitely old and that the Big Bang never happened.

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> If a new theory turns out to be true, the universe may not have started with a bang.
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> In the new formulation, the universe was never a singularity, or an infinitely small and infinitely dense point of matter. In fact, the universe may have no beginning at all.
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> “Our theory suggests that the age of the universe could be infinite,” said study co-author Saurya Das, a theoretical physicist at the University of Lethbridge in Alberta, Canada.

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> Das and his colleagues wanted a way to resolve at least some of these problems. To do so, they looked at an older way of visualizing quantum mechanics, called Bohmian mechanics. In it, a hidden variable governs the bizarre behavior of subatomic particles. Unlike other formulations of quantum mechanics, it provides a way to calculate the trajectory of a particle.
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> Using this old-fashioned form of quantum theory, the researchers calculated a small correction term that could be included in Einstein’s theory of general relativity. Then, they figured out what would happen in deep time.

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### Author: ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)
#### Post date: [February 27, 2015, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/article-questions-if-big-bang-happened-scientific-article/713805/2 "2015-02-27T22:23:53Z")

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I believe I’ve seen a thread or two about this somewhere around here, but I don’t know where.

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### Author: ![Robert163](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@Robert163](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert163)
#### Post date: [February 27, 2015, 10:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/article-questions-if-big-bang-happened-scientific-article/713805/3 "2015-02-27T22:28:10Z")

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> [@Smeghead](#):
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> I believe I’ve seen a thread or two about this somewhere around here, but I don’t know where.

yeah, maybe i should of done a search first. i just hadn’t seen anything in the past few days…

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### Author: ![DataX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@DataX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DataX)
#### Post date: [February 27, 2015, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/article-questions-if-big-bang-happened-scientific-article/713805/4 "2015-02-27T23:09:14Z")

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I thought this new thing was questioning “cosmic inflation” - something that was/is believed to have happen way less than a second after t0.

I thought the Big Bang theories came about after discoveries about red/blue shifting and that we sort of extrapolated back in time. After reading - there’s obviously more too it that I don’t understand. I get the whole light shifting thing. I’m not sure what the next thing I need to understand is to get the next step (in understanding) for a layperson.

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### Author: ![leahcim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/b4bc9f/32.png) [@leahcim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leahcim)
#### Post date: [February 27, 2015, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/article-questions-if-big-bang-happened-scientific-article/713805/5 "2015-02-27T23:18:37Z")

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Other thread: [A new model that predicts no Big Bang](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=748867)

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### Author: ![Robert163](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@Robert163](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert163)
#### Post date: [February 27, 2015, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/article-questions-if-big-bang-happened-scientific-article/713805/6 "2015-02-27T23:26:06Z")

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> [@DataX](#):
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> I thought this new thing was questioning “cosmic inflation” - something that was/is believed to have happen way less than a second after t0.
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> I thought the Big Bang theories came about after discoveries about red/blue shifting and that we sort of extrapolated back in time. After reading - there’s obviously more too it that I don’t understand. I get the whole light shifting thing. I’m not sure what the next thing I need to understand is to get the next step (in understanding) for a layperson.

i dont understand it either

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### Author: ![Robert163](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/4af34b/32.png) [@Robert163](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robert163)
#### Post date: [February 27, 2015, 11:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/article-questions-if-big-bang-happened-scientific-article/713805/7 "2015-02-27T23:27:20Z")

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> [@leahcim](#):
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> Other thread: [A new model that predicts no Big Bang](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=748867)

should a mod close this thread before it gets too long?
