# Artifact - Valve's new DOTA-themed collectable card game, is incredibly greedy

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**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [November 18, 2018, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/artifact-valves-new-dota-themed-collectable-card-game-is-incredibly-greedy/824726 "2018-11-18T08:14:18Z")\
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**Author:** ![Teuton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/teuton/32/3864_2.png) [@Teuton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Teuton)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 7:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/artifact-valves-new-dota-themed-collectable-card-game-is-incredibly-greedy/824726/41 "2019-03-12T07:40:08Z")

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One of the major problems aside from the monetization seemed to be that was kind of a dull game to watch on twitch.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 8:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/artifact-valves-new-dota-themed-collectable-card-game-is-incredibly-greedy/824726/42 "2019-03-12T08:51:42Z")

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> [@iamthewalrus\_3](#):
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> Also it was 15+ years ago.

Naaah, MTGO was launched in 2002 which… wait, it’s been 15+ years already ? Fuuuuck… Getting old sucks. I don’t like it, and I wish to cancel my subscription.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/artifact-valves-new-dota-themed-collectable-card-game-is-incredibly-greedy/824726/43 "2019-03-12T13:40:16Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> Naaah, MTGO was launched in 2002 which… wait, it’s been 15+ years already ? Fuuuuck… Getting old sucks. I don’t like it, and I wish to cancel my subscription.

Unfortunately getting out of that subscription requires a pretty heavy penalty. ☹

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**Author:** ![Quimby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/22d042/32.png) [@Quimby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quimby)\
**Post date:** [March 12, 2019, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/artifact-valves-new-dota-themed-collectable-card-game-is-incredibly-greedy/824726/44 "2019-03-12T14:49:55Z")

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Interesting [doc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjjudgRAlC0) on the rise and fall

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