# Artificial web-shooter vs. Organic

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/artificial-web-shooter-vs-organic/583891>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [May 31, 2011, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/artificial-web-shooter-vs-organic/583891 "2011-05-31T20:40:50Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2011, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/artificial-web-shooter-vs-organic/583891/41 "2011-06-01T19:37:32Z")

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> [@Chronos](#):
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> On the one hand, the mechanical web-shooters clutter up the origin story too much: As others have said, it’s too much of a stretch that he has superhero-level intelligence _and_ also just happens to get bit by the radioactive spider.

I think the organic shooters work best for the films since they let you get right into the web-shooting without wasting time on a plausible chain of events for the mechanical shooters. I prefer the mechanical origin overall but it would have bogged down the film.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2011, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/artificial-web-shooter-vs-organic/583891/42 "2011-06-01T19:37:41Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> I’m too lazy to look up the proper definition of psychopath, but I don’t think he’s a sociopath, as he has empathy for others.

No worries. It was a joke from _Sherlock_.

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2011, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/artificial-web-shooter-vs-organic/583891/43 "2011-06-01T22:20:00Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> Comics!Peter, while on the run from the police for the zillionth time, once devised _four separate hero identities_ while working to clear Spidey’s name, and none of them were spider, arachnid, or insect-themed, did well as all of them, and stupidly went back to Spider-Man afterwards.

IIRC Prodigy and Hornet were heroic identities. Spidey had to quit being Hornet after he slipped up and called the Vulture “Vulchy”. The Vulture’s response (in front of a large crowd and on live television IIRC) was

“The Hornet is Spider-Man! It’s Spidey in that suit! I’d know that smart alec attitude anywhere! And nobody else calls me Vulchy!! The Hornet is Spiderman!”

So it was understandable that he gave up being the Hornet.

Dusk (whose powers I don’t recall) and Ricochet (who used a super bouncy rubber Spidey invented as well as a lot of acrobatic stunts) were villains. While certain heroes (OTTOMH Marvel’s Shroud does it) can get behind the whole pretending to be a villain thing, it just wasn’t in Peter’s nature.

Re Spider Man 2099

I love this quote “At least I’m not perfectly replicating a spider. Then, I’d be shooting webs out my butt!”

And upon discovering he has claws

“Ahh, thank god. They automatically retract when I touch my skin. Otherwise going to the bathroom would be an adventure and picking my nose could be lethal.”

RE Cameron

I have a copy of his treatment around here somewhere. The wet dream and web as ejaculate fluid couldn’t be more obvious.

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**Author:** ![Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecccb3/32.png) [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skald_the_Rhymer)\
**Post date:** [June 1, 2011, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/artificial-web-shooter-vs-organic/583891/44 "2011-06-01T22:30:23Z")

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> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#):
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> No worries. It was a joke from _Sherlock_.

Ah!

I actually thought it was a _How I Met Your Mother_ reference.

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**Author:** ![Tanbarkie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a698b9/32.png) [@Tanbarkie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanbarkie)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2011, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/artificial-web-shooter-vs-organic/583891/45 "2011-06-02T14:21:29Z")

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Today’s [Hark! A Vagrant](http://www.harkavagrant.com/index.php?id=308) is semi-relevant (and all-adorable, as Kate Beaton’s comics tend to be).

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**Author:** ![Wheelz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wheelz/32/5718_2.png) [@Wheelz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wheelz)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2011, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/artificial-web-shooter-vs-organic/583891/46 "2011-06-02T14:28:12Z")

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> [@Tanbarkie](#):
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> Today’s [Hark! A Vagrant](http://www.harkavagrant.com/index.php?id=308) is semi-relevant (and all-adorable, as Kate Beaton’s comics tend to be).

“Is that even a thing spiders have?” 😃

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**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2011, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/artificial-web-shooter-vs-organic/583891/47 "2011-06-02T16:59:15Z")

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> [@Tanbarkie](#):
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> Today’s [Hark! A Vagrant](http://www.harkavagrant.com/index.php?id=308) is semi-relevant (and all-adorable, as Kate Beaton’s comics tend to be).

“ooh… a crevice” 😛

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2011, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/artificial-web-shooter-vs-organic/583891/48 "2011-06-02T17:21:00Z")

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> [@bup](#):
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> I wonder if his web fluid tastes better if he drinks a lot of pineapple juice. Has MJ ever said?

You are so going to Marvel Hell!  
🙂

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**Author:** ![theR](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/977dab/32.png) [@theR](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/theR)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2011, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/artificial-web-shooter-vs-organic/583891/49 "2011-06-02T17:37:41Z")

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> [@Wolverine](#):
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> I thought that organic webshooters were originally done in [Spider-Man 2099](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spider-Man_2099) which was in the early 90s.

Couldn’t you also argue that the Venom/Spider-Man combo used organic? I don’t actually remember the mechanism, but do remember it being different than Spider-Man alone.

Regardless, the concept was definitely not original for the movie.

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [June 2, 2011, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/artificial-web-shooter-vs-organic/583891/50 "2011-06-02T19:41:39Z")

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If Spidey really hates a villain, he goes and eats asparagus before webbing them up.

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