# Artists abuse animals!  SDMB outraged!  But is it true?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/artists-abuse-animals-sdmb-outraged-but-is-it-true/73181>\
**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [July 20, 2001, 2:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/artists-abuse-animals-sdmb-outraged-but-is-it-true/73181 "2001-07-20T14:03:22Z")\
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**Author:** ![sethdallob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@sethdallob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sethdallob)\
**Post date:** [July 22, 2001, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/artists-abuse-animals-sdmb-outraged-but-is-it-true/73181/41 "2001-07-22T17:30:40Z")

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> \*Originally posted by pldennison  
> **sethdallob** : A “witch hunt” is usually a term used to describe mass hysteria towards people who have done nothing, or done nothing illegal. Are you ready to confidently state that these men did not kill this cat as described? If not, it’s time for you to buy a “Word-A-Day” calendar intended for a lower grade level.  
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While I really, really want to just tear into you, it wouldn’t be appropriate behavior in GQ. I’m being flamed in the Pit - why don’t you join in there.

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**Author:** ![Peta\_Tzunami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b487fb/32.png) [@Peta\_Tzunami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peta_Tzunami)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2001, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/artists-abuse-animals-sdmb-outraged-but-is-it-true/73181/42 "2001-08-15T15:48:10Z")

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Just following up on this case:

**Ontario: New cruelty charges laid**  
August 1, 2001  
TORONTO - Two men accused of torturing and killing a  
cat face new charges after a court appearance  
yesterday. Anthony Ryan Wennekers, 24, faces four  
counts of animal cruelty, two counts of mischief under  
$5,000, one count of theft and one count of killing  
animals. Jesse Power, 21, who said the alleged actions  
and their videotaping were a work of art, faces three  
charges of animal cruelty, one count of mischief under  
$5,000, one count of theft and one count of killing  
animals.

[The National Post](http://www.nationalpost.com/search/story.html?f=/stories/20010801/633868.html)

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**Author:** ![Tranquilis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tranquilis/32/3639_2.png) [@Tranquilis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tranquilis)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2001, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/artists-abuse-animals-sdmb-outraged-but-is-it-true/73181/43 "2001-08-15T15:50:54Z")

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Now, what are the potential consequences to these… persons …should the be convicted?

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**Author:** ![Peta\_Tzunami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b487fb/32.png) [@Peta\_Tzunami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peta_Tzunami)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2001, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/artists-abuse-animals-sdmb-outraged-but-is-it-true/73181/44 "2001-08-15T17:16:02Z")

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My understanding from articles and contacts in Ontario is that the maximum each man can receive for each animal cruelty offense is 6-months in jail and a 2-year ban on animal ownership (i.e. cannot own any animals for a period of 2 yrs) following conviction.

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**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2001, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/artists-abuse-animals-sdmb-outraged-but-is-it-true/73181/45 "2001-08-15T17:47:52Z")

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Peta Tzunami,  
Do you know what sentences they could receive for the mischef, theft, and unlawfully killing animals charges?

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**Author:** ![Arken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dfb087/32.png) [@Arken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arken)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2001, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/artists-abuse-animals-sdmb-outraged-but-is-it-true/73181/46 "2001-08-15T18:34:15Z")

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Well if they did skin a cat, you think they found more than one way to try it?

😉

(Sorry, I’m in a sick joke mood today)

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**Author:** ![Peta\_Tzunami](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b487fb/32.png) [@Peta\_Tzunami](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peta_Tzunami)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2001, 6:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/artists-abuse-animals-sdmb-outraged-but-is-it-true/73181/47 "2001-08-15T18:50:28Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Captain Amazing \*  
> \*\*Peta Tzunami,  
> Do you know what sentences they could receive for the mischef, theft, and unlawfully killing animals charges? \*\*

I’m afraid I don’t know that yet, but I will be looking into it.

Thanks.

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**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2001, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/artists-abuse-animals-sdmb-outraged-but-is-it-true/73181/48 "2001-08-15T18:59:28Z")

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Anyone still insisting it’s all a “hoax”?

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [August 15, 2001, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/artists-abuse-animals-sdmb-outraged-but-is-it-true/73181/49 "2001-08-15T19:14:24Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Arken \*  
> **Well if they did skin a cat, you think they found more than one way to try it?**

Naw. They only used one cat. You’d need to experiment with more to determine once and for all how many ways there are. It still stands at “more than one” and that includes ways that are nearly identical or are simply stupid and silly.

Okay, I’m in a sick frame of mind, too. And I love cats, though am now too allergic to keep any. AND I am sick of people who use “art” as an excuse for whatever their pet perversion happens to be. We’ve determined that it was not a hoax. We all hope that the perps are punished to the fulllest extent of the law. But, considering the bigger outrages that could outrage us, is this a tempest in a teapot?

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**Author:** ![sethdallob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e36b37/32.png) [@sethdallob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sethdallob)\
**Post date:** [August 16, 2001, 10:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/artists-abuse-animals-sdmb-outraged-but-is-it-true/73181/50 "2001-08-16T22:13:46Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Anthracite \*  
> \*\*Anyone still insisting it’s all a “hoax”? \*\*

Let’s not start this again. 🙂 The Pit thread died out.

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