# As a responsible gun owner, we as a country need to fix this gun violence problem!

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**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [June 5, 2022, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-a-responsible-gun-owner-we-as-a-country-need-to-fix-this-gun-violence-problem/965697 "2022-06-05T14:01:31Z")\
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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2022, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-a-responsible-gun-owner-we-as-a-country-need-to-fix-this-gun-violence-problem/965697/1 "2022-06-05T14:01:31Z")

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There are many contributing factors to our problem. It’s an American problem. We love our guns. But we can’t keep having these mass shootings!

Briefly about me — I did not grow up with guns. Until the military, I never fired a gun. I served from 1980-1993. I did not buy my first gun until about 2006. I now own several, and when my wife and I camp remotely I feel much more secure having my gun with me.

I am now actively working to support the following:

● Universal background check for every gun sale or ownership transfer in America.  
● Minimum age of 21.  
● Limit magazine capacity to 10 rounds.

Here is how we like to roadtrip. This is how we roll. I will bring my gun with me.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2022, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-a-responsible-gun-owner-we-as-a-country-need-to-fix-this-gun-violence-problem/965697/2 "2022-06-05T14:08:10Z")

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Just curious - when you say you like to take your gun with you, do you mean a handgun or a long-gun?

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**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2022, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-a-responsible-gun-owner-we-as-a-country-need-to-fix-this-gun-violence-problem/965697/3 "2022-06-05T14:10:14Z")

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I do not believe firearms are allowed in national parks unless specifically authorized. If you do not want to get eaten by a bear, do not leave food in your tent/campsite or car.

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2022, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-a-responsible-gun-owner-we-as-a-country-need-to-fix-this-gun-violence-problem/965697/4 "2022-06-05T14:10:35Z")

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I want to hear from gun owners. What do you propose we do?

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2022, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-a-responsible-gun-owner-we-as-a-country-need-to-fix-this-gun-violence-problem/965697/5 "2022-06-05T14:11:05Z")

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> [@Northern\_Piper](#):
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> Just curious - when you say you like to take your gun with you, do you mean a handgun or a long-gun?

Depending on where I go, possibly both.

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2022, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-a-responsible-gun-owner-we-as-a-country-need-to-fix-this-gun-violence-problem/965697/6 "2022-06-05T14:11:41Z")

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Oh and BTW I live in California. That’s relevant to this discussion.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2022, 2:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-a-responsible-gun-owner-we-as-a-country-need-to-fix-this-gun-violence-problem/965697/7 "2022-06-05T14:11:42Z")

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Thanks.

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2022, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-a-responsible-gun-owner-we-as-a-country-need-to-fix-this-gun-violence-problem/965697/8 "2022-06-05T14:12:03Z")

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Why do you ask?

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2022, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-a-responsible-gun-owner-we-as-a-country-need-to-fix-this-gun-violence-problem/965697/9 "2022-06-05T14:12:55Z")

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Just comparative purposes: curious what is allowed in the US compared to Canada. But I don’t want to hijack this thread, so won’t ask anything further.

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**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2022, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-a-responsible-gun-owner-we-as-a-country-need-to-fix-this-gun-violence-problem/965697/10 "2022-06-05T14:15:18Z")

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I have been camping in Yosemite and encountered pumas (OK, it was a single puma) and I still say don’t bring any guns, even if allowed, which I doubt. You want to go camping, you take your chances, just use those bear-proof containers as instructed (i.e. not in your camp).

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**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2022, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-a-responsible-gun-owner-we-as-a-country-need-to-fix-this-gun-violence-problem/965697/11 "2022-06-05T14:16:01Z")

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> [@DPRK](#):
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> I do not believe firearms are allowed in national parks unless specifically authorized. If you do not want to get eaten by a bear, do not leave food in your tent/campsite or car. -

Gun-grabber Obama reversed the ban put in place by friend of guns Bush.

> **[FLASHBACK: Obama: I Have Expanded Rights of Gun Owners](https://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/12/flashback-obama-i-have-expanded-rights-of-gun-owners)**
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> In his first month in office, Obama overturned a 20-year ban on loaded guns in national parks and wildlife refuges. Licensed gun owners from any state can now carry concealed, loaded weapons on federal land.

> “Like the majority of Americans, I believe that the Second Amendment guarantees an individual right to bear arms,” he wrote. “And, in fact, my administration has not curtailed the rights of gun owners - it has expanded them.”

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
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Feel free to PM me with your question/comment.

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
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It’s not only the 4-legged critters that I may need to protect myself against.

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**Author:** ![DPRK](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4491bb/32.png) [@DPRK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DPRK)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2022, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-a-responsible-gun-owner-we-as-a-country-need-to-fix-this-gun-violence-problem/965697/14 "2022-06-05T14:19:06Z")

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I might, I say _might_ feel different if you were camping in the middle of the Alaskan wilderness or something. I have no experience in those areas, though, so I would listen to what the natives have to say. Still the general principle of not giving bears a reason to sniff around where you sleep is a sound one.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2022, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-a-responsible-gun-owner-we-as-a-country-need-to-fix-this-gun-violence-problem/965697/15 "2022-06-05T14:20:40Z")

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> [@Bullitt](#):
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> I did not buy my first gun until about 2006. I now own several, and when my wife and I camp remotely I feel much more secure having my gun with me.

You’re not in grizzly country, so what dangers do you imagine you’re facing? Only someone marinated in U.S. gun culture would think it fits the description “responsible” to carry totally unnecessary weapons when out camping. The greatest risks you and your family face in the California backcountry are  
(a) a road accident driving to the trailhead  
(b) getting accidentally shot with your own weapon

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2022, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-a-responsible-gun-owner-we-as-a-country-need-to-fix-this-gun-violence-problem/965697/16 "2022-06-05T14:34:16Z")

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Did you see the pictures I posted? They were taken in southern Oregon and western Nevada. In some places we were miles from anybody.

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2022, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-a-responsible-gun-owner-we-as-a-country-need-to-fix-this-gun-violence-problem/965697/17 "2022-06-05T14:36:16Z")

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I’ve been to every state in the Union. I visit some remote areas.

I also like having my gun at home with me. I live near San Francisco.

Dial 9-1-1? “When seconds count the police are only minutes away.”

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2022, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-a-responsible-gun-owner-we-as-a-country-need-to-fix-this-gun-violence-problem/965697/18 "2022-06-05T14:44:07Z")

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> [@Bullitt](#):
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> They were taken in southern Oregon and western Nevada. In some places we were miles from anybody.

Where you faced what imaginary dangers, exactly?

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2022, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-a-responsible-gun-owner-we-as-a-country-need-to-fix-this-gun-violence-problem/965697/19 "2022-06-05T14:50:42Z")

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Imaginary?

The first picture was taken at the Pillars of Rome in southern Oregon. Some mischievous people, if they wanted to mess with us, they could have tried it. It’s a possible scenario.

ETA — the first three pictures were at the Pillars of Rome, Oregon.

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [June 5, 2022, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-a-responsible-gun-owner-we-as-a-country-need-to-fix-this-gun-violence-problem/965697/20 "2022-06-05T14:52:53Z")

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> [@DPRK](#):
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> Still the general principle of not giving bears a reason to sniff around where you sleep is a sound one.

Definitely agree. I take the usual precautions. The gun is for if the animal decides to attack us.

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