# “As a society, let’s agree…” (noxious expressions)

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-a-society-let-s-agree-noxious-expressions/1000939>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Tags:** ai\
**Created:** [April 29, 2024, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-a-society-let-s-agree-noxious-expressions/1000939 "2024-04-29T19:13:11Z")\
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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2024, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-a-society-let-s-agree-noxious-expressions/1000939/1 "2024-04-29T19:13:11Z")

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This is not the first thread to mention phrases, buzzwords or slang which you don’t personally care for. But it seems like it’s been a while. And I want to again lightly rant specifically about “filler” expressions which are basically meaningless.

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Society agrees? The “whole-of-society response”? In my experience, it might take four people half an hour just to decide where to dine or what pizza to order. And that’s when all of them are hungry.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2024, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-a-society-let-s-agree-noxious-expressions/1000939/2 "2024-04-29T19:20:23Z")

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“Let’s just agree to disagree, o.k.?”  
Translation: I don’t have a leg to stand on in this argument, so I’m calling it a tie to stop you from making any more points to support your position.

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**Author:** ![Leo\_Krupe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ebca7d/32.png) [@Leo\_Krupe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leo_Krupe)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2024, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-a-society-let-s-agree-noxious-expressions/1000939/3 "2024-04-29T19:40:35Z")

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Anything 2.0 as in, “We have pork 2.0” or during the 2016 campaign, and idiot newscasters thought trump had learned his lesson, he was described as “Trump 2.0”. Stop. It’s overused and annoying.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Strangelove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.strangelove/32/6613_2.png) [@Dr.Strangelove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Strangelove)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2024, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-a-society-let-s-agree-noxious-expressions/1000939/4 "2024-04-29T22:12:10Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> Translation: I don’t have a leg to stand on in this argument

Not always. Sometimes one party realizes they’re in a pig-wrestling situation and are looking for any kind of out that won’t make a scene.

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**Author:** ![Napier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ce73a5/32.png) [@Napier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Napier)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2024, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-a-society-let-s-agree-noxious-expressions/1000939/5 "2024-04-29T22:17:44Z")

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Alexander Haig once used the phrase “at this juncture of maturization” as a replacement for “now”. It’s over an order of magnitude longer.

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**Author:** ![mbh](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/a6a055/32.png) [@mbh](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mbh)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2024, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-a-society-let-s-agree-noxious-expressions/1000939/6 "2024-04-29T22:43:19Z")

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“They voted against their own interests.”

No, they voted against your view of their interests.  
The propaganda that influenced them was different than the propaganda that influenced you.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2024, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-a-society-let-s-agree-noxious-expressions/1000939/7 "2024-04-29T22:43:25Z")

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I think the obnoxious is when someone makes a sweeping 100%-on-board statement about a 50% thing.

“As a society, let’s all agree that killing innocent civilians is wrong.” Okay, sure, but WHICH of the many warring factions (each of which has killed civilians) are you trying to get me to support or condemn!?

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2024, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-a-society-let-s-agree-noxious-expressions/1000939/8 "2024-04-29T23:05:33Z")

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“Why is nobody talking about x?”

The person saying this hasn’t checked, of course.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2024, 11:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-a-society-let-s-agree-noxious-expressions/1000939/9 "2024-04-29T23:09:04Z")

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> [@Mangetout](#):
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> “Why is nobody talking about x?”

And, relatedly, posts on the SDMB, in threads which ask for examples of a certain thing:

“I can’t believe we’re ## posts in, and no one has mentioned X!!”

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2024, 11:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-a-society-let-s-agree-noxious-expressions/1000939/10 "2024-04-29T23:11:10Z")

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The ‘As a society’ thing seems like it might be code for ‘I would like my superficial and obvious, yet impossible-to-implement suggestion to sound really profound’

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2024, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-a-society-let-s-agree-noxious-expressions/1000939/11 "2024-04-29T23:35:12Z")

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> [@mbh](#):
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> “They voted against their own interests.”

I hear grocery and fast food workers say all the time that raising their wages from $10 to $15 (in Massachusetts over the last few years) has caused the price of groceries and fast food to rise by more than 50% making them worse off. So they are opposed to future minimum wage increases.

Sometimes if really is that simple. Many people can’t do math or understand basic economics and are therefore easy to fool.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2024, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-a-society-let-s-agree-noxious-expressions/1000939/12 "2024-04-29T23:37:43Z")

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“At the end of the day” should be thrown under the bus, or better yet, an out-of-control container ship.

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**Author:** ![Dr\_Paprika](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr_paprika/32/3042_2.png) [@Dr\_Paprika](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr_Paprika)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2024, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-a-society-let-s-agree-noxious-expressions/1000939/13 "2024-04-29T23:45:14Z")

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“It’s early days yet.”

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [April 29, 2024, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-a-society-let-s-agree-noxious-expressions/1000939/14 "2024-04-29T23:51:59Z")

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“It’s not over till it’s over” when it’s mathematically impossible or literally a one-in-a-million shot that the outcome you need comes about. But you will not start working on Plan B.

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**Author:** ![Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/q.q.switcheroo/32/5713_2.png) [@Q.Q.Switcheroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.Q.Switcheroo)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-a-society-let-s-agree-noxious-expressions/1000939/15 "2024-04-30T00:24:17Z")

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“You have to admit…” No, I don’t.

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**Author:** ![PatrickLondon](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/patricklondon/32/4422_2.png) [@PatrickLondon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatrickLondon)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-a-society-let-s-agree-noxious-expressions/1000939/16 "2024-04-30T06:04:12Z")

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My favourite is “We must keep X in the loop going forward”. I asked if they’d done a health and safety assessment of that proposal - tumbleweed.

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**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 6:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-a-society-let-s-agree-noxious-expressions/1000939/17 "2024-04-30T06:12:09Z")

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> [@Dr\_Paprika](#):
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> And I want to again lightly rant specifically about “filler” expressions which are basically meaningless.

Board rules forbid me for saying what I really want to say about you for regurgitating that horrendous, corporate-speech black hole.

So I will just be polite, and say that I agree with your opinion.

However I object that you did not choose to “synergise any paradigms”.

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**Author:** ![Nyvaak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5f8ce5/32.png) [@Nyvaak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nyvaak)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 7:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-a-society-let-s-agree-noxious-expressions/1000939/18 "2024-04-30T07:21:11Z")

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I believe a quote from Sir Terry Pratchett may be relevant. From _Going Postal_ :

_"You had to admire the way perfectly innocent words were mugged, ravished, stripped of all true meaning and decency and then sent to walk the gutter fo_r [story’s villain] _Reacher Gilt, although ‘synergistically’ had probably been a whore from the start."_

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-a-society-let-s-agree-noxious-expressions/1000939/19 "2024-04-30T07:34:34Z")

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> [@scudsucker](#):
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> However I object that you did not choose to “synergise any paradigms”.

Well, when you’re synergizing paradigms, don’t forget to leverage your strengths in order that those paradigms can prove a net benefit to your stakeholders.

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**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\
**Post date:** [April 30, 2024, 8:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-a-society-let-s-agree-noxious-expressions/1000939/20 "2024-04-30T08:28:19Z")

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As a new thought leader I have to say that I am disappointed with some of the attitudes that I see here.

You may wonder in what field I am a thought leader. I am simply trying to get more people to think the thought that I think that I am a thought leader. And I have to start somewhere.

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