# As if Jesse (the Body) wasn't enough

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-if-jesse-the-body-wasnt-enough/63918>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [May 1, 2001, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-if-jesse-the-body-wasnt-enough/63918 "2001-05-01T03:11:59Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![chique](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@chique](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chique)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2001, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-if-jesse-the-body-wasnt-enough/63918/1 "2001-05-01T03:11:59Z")

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As if our govenor wasn’t annoying enough, we now have a state legislator protesting an upcoming vist by the [Dalai Lama](http://webserv3.startribune.com/stOnLine/cgi-bin/article?thisSlug=LAMA01&date=01-May-2001&word=lama&word=dalai') because he’s ‘anti-Christian’.

_sigh_

I’m moving :mad:

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**Author:** ![chique](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/4491bb/32.png) [@chique](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chique)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2001, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-if-jesse-the-body-wasnt-enough/63918/2 "2001-05-01T03:19:58Z")

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Also, from a different [article](http://webserv3.startribune.com/stOnLine/cgi-bin/article?thisSlug=0430BC-MN-XGR--DALAI&date=30-Apr-2001&word=lama&word=dalai), some more words of wisdom from the _cough_ legislator:

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> “They don’t accept God as Christ, they don’t accept God as creator,” Lindner said in an interview. “They believe in reincarnation, which the Bible doesn’t teach and there is no evidence of.”
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> "A Buddhist would say, ‘Why the big fuss about abortion and euthanasia? After all, we are all reincarnated over and over again in many lives, so why the big deal about ending one?’ " Lindner wrote in the e-mail.

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**Author:** ![imthjckaz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/imthjckaz/32/3223_2.png) [@imthjckaz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/imthjckaz)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2001, 3:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-if-jesse-the-body-wasnt-enough/63918/3 "2001-05-01T03:31:53Z")

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**chique** , Linder’s an a-hole.

He’s one of those guys who believes that there is only one religion, and anybody who does not have the same beliefs as he, is a heathen and threrfore ticketed for hell.

He believes in spreading his gospel, but doesn’t like anybody spreading theirs, especially if it is different than his.:wally

[sub]please don’t move[/sub]

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**Author:** ![Nen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Nen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nen)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2001, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-if-jesse-the-body-wasnt-enough/63918/4 "2001-05-01T03:40:00Z")

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So, it’s _this_ guy who gives the ole U.S. a bad name, eh? Okay, so maybe there are a few others. Yeah, **chique** , I’m with you–get the fuck out of that state. I’m a fucking atheist and _I’d_ bow to that man. It’s fucking idiots like this which defy the best flames. One simply can’t put such terms into words.

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**Author:** ![echonymph](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/848f3c/32.png) [@echonymph](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/echonymph)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2001, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-if-jesse-the-body-wasnt-enough/63918/5 "2001-05-01T04:02:36Z")

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why are we prone to stupidity?

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**Author:** ![ITR\_champion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/c67d28/32.png) [@ITR\_champion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ITR_champion)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2001, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-if-jesse-the-body-wasnt-enough/63918/6 "2001-05-01T05:07:00Z")

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Arghh. Where the fuck does this sort of bullshit come from? So now everybody who doesn’t agree with Christianity is a member of a “cult”. I wonder how this guy would react if somebody refered to Christianity s a “cult”?

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**Author:** ![Mercutio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/51bf81/32.png) [@Mercutio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mercutio)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2001, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-if-jesse-the-body-wasnt-enough/63918/7 "2001-05-01T05:14:52Z")

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Further proving that letting religion control every aspect of your life is idiotic.

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**Author:** ![edwino](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@edwino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/edwino)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2001, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-if-jesse-the-body-wasnt-enough/63918/8 "2001-05-01T05:31:57Z")

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I assume you all saw **this** story:

[http://www.accessatlanta.com/partners/ajc/epaper/editions/sunday/local\_news\_a3be6a15f17d60e600ac.html](http://www.accessatlanta.com/partners/ajc/epaper/editions/sunday/local_news_a3be6a15f17d60e600ac.html)

A synopsis:

A public high school in Marietta, Georgia, was looking for an auditorium for a supplemental ceremony for their high school graduation. The chapel of a local Methodist church was offered for free. Only problem was, that for their baccalaureate address, they chose a Reform rabbi from the community.

The minister of the church refused to yield his pulpit to a Jew for this non-denominational ceremony (but religious ceremony). If he let a Jew speak, he would have to open the pulpit to Wiccans, Buddhists, and Pagans. So the graduating class had to go rent the Civic Center for a few thousand dollars instead of having it at the church for free.

Maybe a good GD topic in the making…

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**Author:** ![edwino](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/35a633/32.png) [@edwino](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/edwino)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2001, 5:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-if-jesse-the-body-wasnt-enough/63918/9 "2001-05-01T05:41:02Z")

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Nice. Link broken. vBulletin is giving me problems trying to fix it…This space does not appear in my coding.  
Mods? Anyway, there is no space between the a and the c in the URL:  
[http://www.accessatlanta.com/partners/ajc/epaper/editions/sunday/local\_news\_a3be6a15f17d60e600ac.html](http://www.accessatlanta.com/partners/ajc/epaper/editions/sunday/local_news_a3be6a15f17d60e600ac.html)

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**Author:** ![Lux\_Fiat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bc79bd/32.png) [@Lux\_Fiat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lux_Fiat)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2001, 7:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-if-jesse-the-body-wasnt-enough/63918/10 "2001-05-01T07:53:46Z")

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> \*Originally posted by ITR champion \*  
> I wonder how this guy would react if somebody refered to Christianity s a “cult”?

“Kill the unbeliever!”

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2001, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-if-jesse-the-body-wasnt-enough/63918/11 "2001-05-01T08:06:59Z")

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> . “They believe in reincarnation, which the Bible doesn’t teach and there is no evidence of.”

As opposed to the mountain of incontrovertable evidence that Jesus _was_ the True Son of God. Hey, maybe they take reincarnation on faith?

No, who would take something so unlikely on faith?

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2001, 9:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-if-jesse-the-body-wasnt-enough/63918/12 "2001-05-01T09:09:39Z")

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> \*Originally posted by ITR champion \*  
> \*\*Arghh. Where the fuck does this sort of bullshit come from? So now everybody who doesn’t agree with Christianity is a member of a “cult”. I wonder how this guy would react if somebody refered to Christianity s a “cult”? \*\*

And given that Buddhism predates Christianity by about 500 years (although, admittedly, not Judaism), I would think the Buddhists might have a stronger case for asserting that Christianity is a cult than the other way around. And of course Buddhism was promoting love and tolerance long before Christ – but as this guy seems to have missed that part of his own religion he’s obviously not going to see it in someone else’s…

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**Author:** ![gadgetgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c5a1d2/32.png) [@gadgetgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gadgetgirl)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2001, 10:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-if-jesse-the-body-wasnt-enough/63918/13 "2001-05-01T10:19:16Z")

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jr8, my hat goes off to you!

And how did this freak get elected? Is Minn/St Pau THAT consevative? What the hell?  
Wow, I’ve been out of the country for WAY too long.

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**Author:** ![gadgetgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c5a1d2/32.png) [@gadgetgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gadgetgirl)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2001, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-if-jesse-the-body-wasnt-enough/63918/14 "2001-05-01T10:20:43Z")

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I really wish we could edit our posts after we submit them, dammit!

And BTW, what does define a set of beliefs as a “cult” anyway? Is it just someone else’s say so?

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**Author:** ![lno](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a8b319/32.png) [@lno](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lno)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2001, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-if-jesse-the-body-wasnt-enough/63918/15 "2001-05-01T13:17:51Z")

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Minneapolis/St Paul on the whole isn’t THAT conservative. After all, we were the only state to vote for good ol’ Democrat Mondale back in 1984 … but, of course, when talking about the state legislature, you will get small pockets of tightly-knit communities that manage to elect a legislator that is very far to the right or left.

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**Author:** ![dlb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@dlb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dlb)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2001, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-if-jesse-the-body-wasnt-enough/63918/16 "2001-05-01T14:13:12Z")

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> \*Originally posted by chique \*  
> As if our govenor wasn’t annoying enough, we now have a state legislator protesting an upcoming vist by the [Dalai Lama](http://webserv3.startribune.com/stOnLine/cgi-bin/article?thisSlug=LAMA01&date=01-May-2001&word=lama&word=dalai') because he’s ‘anti-Christian’.
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> _sigh_
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> I’m moving :mad:

OK.

And just **where** do you think is any better?

Hint: idiots are universal.

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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2001, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-if-jesse-the-body-wasnt-enough/63918/17 "2001-05-01T14:29:17Z")

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> \*Originally posted by gadgetgirl \*  
> \*\*jr8, my hat goes off to you! \*\*

Cool – is this one of those hats with the helicopter and grappling hook and magnifying glass and everything?

[sub]Well I just assumed, what with the name and all…[/sub]

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**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2001, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-if-jesse-the-body-wasnt-enough/63918/18 "2001-05-01T14:33:23Z")

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Thanks for putting this out here, I was going to put a pit rant out on the same thing. However, no time…

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2001, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-if-jesse-the-body-wasnt-enough/63918/19 "2001-05-01T14:34:55Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Lux Fiat \*  
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> > \*Originally posted by ITR champion \*  
> > I wonder how this guy would react if somebody refered to Christianity s a “cult”?
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> “Kill the unbeliever!” \*\*

“Burn the heretic!” is so much better sounding, though.

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**Author:** ![jesuslynch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e99b99/32.png) [@jesuslynch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jesuslynch)\
**Post date:** [May 1, 2001, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-if-jesse-the-body-wasnt-enough/63918/20 "2001-05-01T15:53:55Z")

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What a maroon. This guy is two letters past a cult.

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