# As if there's not enough racial tension in a gay chat room... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [June 24, 2003, 2:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-if-theres-not-enough-racial-tension-in-a-gay-chat-room/183922 "2003-06-24T02:13:24Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2003, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-if-theres-not-enough-racial-tension-in-a-gay-chat-room/183922/41 "2003-06-25T14:19:35Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Homebrew \* > \*\*Not to hijack, but can someone point me in the direction of guys who prefer red-heads. \*\* _raises hand_ Redheads make me weak in the knees. And other places. šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2003, 2:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-if-theres-not-enough-racial-tension-in-a-gay-chat-room/183922/42 "2003-06-25T14:28:31Z")
> [@](#): > > Not to hijack, but can someone point me in the direction of guys who prefer red-heads _Gobear raises his. . . er. . hand_ ---
**Author:** ![elfje](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19b73/32.png) [@elfje](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfje)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2003, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-if-theres-not-enough-racial-tension-in-a-gay-chat-room/183922/43 "2003-06-25T14:50:20Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jayjay \* > \*\*Thatā€™s not, unfortunately, the way human nature works > > _snip_ > > Humanity doesnā€™t need the Christian Satan. We do just fine all by ourselves, regardless of past experience. \*\* I know. thatā€™s why i said: youā€™d think". and ā€œhopefullyā€. I know itā€™s up to the individual. Iā€™m just an optimist I suppose, when it comes to human nature. Or a hope-ist. ā˜¹ and **homebrew** , missa redhead, and the bf likee much. ---
**Author:** ![Homebrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Homebrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Homebrew)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2003, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-if-theres-not-enough-racial-tension-in-a-gay-chat-room/183922/44 "2003-06-25T15:14:29Z")
Red-head admirers, objectify me! šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2003, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-if-theres-not-enough-racial-tension-in-a-gay-chat-room/183922/45 "2003-06-25T16:43:40Z")
pizzabrat > [@](#): > > So as long as you do it, itā€™s okay and not racist. Wow, over-simplify much? Tell you what, sweetie, if it makes your little heart go all a-flutter to think of me as racist because I find the idea of having sex with non-white people to be intriguing, then you go right ahead and believe it. BrightNShiny > [@](#): > > Actually, quite a few Indians have green, red hair is a little rarer though. But in any case, I would find it absurd if someone said that they would only date people with green eyes and red hair. If their perfect guy game along but he had blue eyes, they would reject him? Doubtful. But letā€™s say this person did. I suppose we can say heā€™s prejudiced against non-green eyed people. In the case of someone who refuses to date Indians, that person is prejudiced against Indians. I loooove black hair and green eyes, so send any black haired green eyed Indians my way. I agree that ā€œI refuse to date Indiansā€ is a racist attitude but I disagree that ā€œI have a type and I refuse to date outside that type and Indians donā€™t fit my type, therefore I wonā€™t date themā€ is _necessarily_ racist. There is in my opinion a difference between ā€œracistā€ and ā€œprejudiced.ā€ The former is racist. The latter is prejudiced but may not be racist. Homebrew > [@](#): > > Red-head admirers, objectify me! The rest of you homos in this thread can just **step off** because _I saw him first!_ ---
**Author:** ![pizzabrat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e9c0ed/32.png) [@pizzabrat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pizzabrat)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2003, 5:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-if-theres-not-enough-racial-tension-in-a-gay-chat-room/183922/46 "2003-06-25T17:17:23Z")
> [@](#): > > pizzabrat > > ## quote: > > ## So as long as you do it, itā€™s okay and not racist. > > Wow, over-simplify much? Actually, no. Perhaps bolding and italicization will help: > [@](#): > > I canā€™t imagine what would possess anyone to do any of 3-6, but Iā€™m unclear as to whatā€™s so wrong about 1 and 2. **_I_ have types that Iā€™m attracted to. One of the types that _I_ am not particularly attracted to as a rule is black men. I donā€™t think itā€™s racist** not to sleep with someone to whom Iā€™m not attracted, even if itā€™s their ethnicity that leads to my not being attracted to them, any more than itā€™s sexist of me not to have sex with women because Iā€™m not attracted to them. As for wanting to sleep with someone based solely on their race, well, **_I_ have to admit to wanting to do that too and again I donā€™t think itā€™s racist.** Whatā€™s wrong with being curious about what itā€™s like to sleep with a person of a particular race? > [@](#): > > **I really hesitate to label the idea** of wanting to sleep with someone because of their race as out-and-out **racist _because_ I have to confess to that my own self.** Regaurdless of whether your argument is valid otherwise, itā€™s clear that your justification of your actions as not being racist are based mostly on the fact that you do them. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2003, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-if-theres-not-enough-racial-tension-in-a-gay-chat-room/183922/47 "2003-06-25T17:29:53Z")
> [@](#): > > I loooove black hair and green eyes, So how _you_ doinā€™? sez the raven-haired, green-eyed Gobear ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2003, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-if-theres-not-enough-racial-tension-in-a-gay-chat-room/183922/48 "2003-06-25T19:44:45Z")
pizzabrat > [@](#): > > Regaurdless of whether your argument is valid otherwise, itā€™s clear that your justification of your actions as not being racist are based mostly on the fact that you do them. What-fucking-_ever_. Please fucking forgive me for trying to personalize the discussion a bit by using ā€œIā€ and ā€œmeā€ instead of ā€œone.ā€ Is this better? ā€œOneā€ has types to whom ā€œoneā€ is attracted and ā€œoneā€™sā€ not sleeping with someone to whom ā€œoneā€ is not attracted does not in my opinion make ā€œoneā€ racist. ā€œOneā€ having an interest in having sex with men of multiple races does not in my opinion make ā€œoneā€ racist. And I feel no need to ā€œjustifyā€ my attractions or lack of same to anyone. I gave up on feeling the need to offer ā€œjustificationā€ a long long time ago. gobear > [@](#): > > So how _you_ doinā€™? Oh what, _now_ you want to go there? Where were you a year ago? Oh wait, I think a year ago we were busy being pissed off at each otherā€¦ ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2003, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-if-theres-not-enough-racial-tension-in-a-gay-chat-room/183922/49 "2003-06-25T19:50:57Z")
> [@](#): > > Oh what, now you want to go there? Where were you a year ago? Oh wait, I think a year ago we were busy being pissed off at each otherā€¦ Just like Rock Hudson and Doris Day ---
**Author:** ![Priam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/77aa72/32.png) [@Priam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Priam)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2003, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-if-theres-not-enough-racial-tension-in-a-gay-chat-room/183922/50 "2003-06-25T21:19:48Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by gobear \* > \*\*So how _you_ doinā€™? > > sez the raven-haired, green-eyed Gobear \*\* Hey hey hey! You wait just a minute here. Iā€™ve been oggling him for _months_ you two-timing hussy! sez the equally dark-haired and green eyed Priam šŸ˜‰ šŸ˜› ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2003, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-if-theres-not-enough-racial-tension-in-a-gay-chat-room/183922/51 "2003-06-25T21:25:37Z")
Ah, but who is whom, and whoā€™s going to be our Tony Randall? ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2003, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-if-theres-not-enough-racial-tension-in-a-gay-chat-room/183922/52 "2003-06-25T21:57:45Z")
ATTENTION ALL NON-WHITE GAY OR BISEXUAL MEN: How _you_ doinā€™? šŸ˜‰ ATTENTION ALL WHITE GAY OR BISEXUAL MEN: How _you_ doinā€™? šŸ˜‰ Iā€™m not a rice queen, potato queen, bean queen _or_ chocolate queen - Iā€™m an all you can eat buffet! šŸ˜ƒ Esprix ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2003, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-if-theres-not-enough-racial-tension-in-a-gay-chat-room/183922/53 "2003-06-25T22:23:05Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Esprix \* > **Iā€™m not a rice queen, potato queen, bean queen _or_ chocolate queen - Iā€™m an all you can eat buffet! šŸ˜ƒ** One of the very rare examples of the buffet frequently eating the patronsā€¦ šŸ˜‰ And dammit! Nobody ever fights over me! Signed, the raven-turning-salt-and-pepper-haired, brown-eyed, half-Italian jayjaybear (and they said gay dopers couldnā€™t turn just any thread into a queer flirtfestā€¦) ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2003, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-if-theres-not-enough-racial-tension-in-a-gay-chat-room/183922/54 "2003-06-25T22:24:35Z")
Well, **JayJay** , have you ever given me a shot? Iā€™m a big fan of bears. ---
**Author:** ![Priam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/77aa72/32.png) [@Priam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Priam)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2003, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-if-theres-not-enough-racial-tension-in-a-gay-chat-room/183922/55 "2003-06-25T22:45:28Z")
Well jeeze, gobear, monopolize the entire free and queer population of SDMB, why donā€™tcha? When did you go all polyamorous on us? šŸ˜ƒ ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2003, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-if-theres-not-enough-racial-tension-in-a-gay-chat-room/183922/56 "2003-06-25T22:47:55Z")
To tell the truth, at this point I could really use some hugs and affection. ---
**Author:** ![Priam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/77aa72/32.png) [@Priam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Priam)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2003, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-if-theres-not-enough-racial-tension-in-a-gay-chat-room/183922/57 "2003-06-25T22:51:46Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by gobear \* > \*\*To tell the truth, at this point I could really use some hugs and affection. \*\* _ **BIG HUGE MASSIVE HUGS AND SNUGGLES** _ Always more where that came from, hun. Just say the word. Weā€™re here for yā€™all. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2003, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-if-theres-not-enough-racial-tension-in-a-gay-chat-room/183922/58 "2003-06-25T22:53:25Z")
Thanks. Itā€™s very, very much appreciated. ---
**Author:** ![Priam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/77aa72/32.png) [@Priam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Priam)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2003, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-if-theres-not-enough-racial-tension-in-a-gay-chat-room/183922/59 "2003-06-25T22:57:02Z")
Wish I could do more for ya, sweetie. If you donā€™t have anyone else available, though, Iā€™ve been told Iā€™ve got pretty good shoulders to sob on. Standing invitation, no waiting in line. ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [June 25, 2003, 10:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-if-theres-not-enough-racial-tension-in-a-gay-chat-room/183922/60 "2003-06-25T22:58:06Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by **Otto** _ > > Ah, but who is whom, and whoā€™s going to be our Tony Randall? If youā€™re speaking of _Send Me No Flowers_, I actually played the Tony Randall part in my high school production. It was most amusing watching the teetotaller play the drunk the whole time. Esprix [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-if-theres-not-enough-racial-tension-in-a-gay-chat-room/183922.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-if-theres-not-enough-racial-tension-in-a-gay-chat-room/183922.md?page=4)