# As you were, now I am. **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [March 13, 2009, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-you-were-now-i-am/489317 "2009-03-13T11:02:53Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 5
**Author:** ![Stan\_Shmenge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/94ad74/32.png) [@Stan\_Shmenge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stan_Shmenge)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2009, 11:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-you-were-now-i-am/489317/5 "2009-03-13T11:37:22Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > Seriously, do you have a proposition for debate? So far this is nothing but partisan hackery. And yes, Bush was subjected to a lot of that, but much of it wasn’t worth arguing with back then, either. > > What you’ve suggested so far is: > > Obama is a Communist. This is a stupid idea, and when people say it I wonder what planet they live on. Most Communists wouldn’t give hundreds of billions to Wall Street. Except that the companies targeted are heavily unionized. This is more a payoff to the unions than the folks on Wall Street. > [@](#): > > Obama is an empty suit. Same as above. There’s no particular evidence of this, but it gets said about every president. I’m not sure what the appeal is. It’s an accusation of phoniness that itself has no substance. Time will tell. I don’t get the impression that the man is any more intelligent than his predecessor, but that maybe is just IMHO. > [@](#): > > “The man is a disaster?” Eh. Too soon to tell, and even if it’s true it would take quite a while to sort out any Obama-induced disasters from the ones that are already happening. I am making a statement that I feel will be borne out in due time. Perhaps I am wrong! > [@](#): > > “Will harm the world?” Same. But mostly this is based on a cartoonish depiction of Obama as a starry-eyed idealist. He has leftist credentials, which I feel are as bad for the world now as they were when Carter threw the Shah under the rug for an Islamacist regime back in the late 70’s. If you feel this thread should be moved, or terminated, that is your judgment! It won’t stop me from posting my opinions, unless I am banned for some reason, but I have never done anything to deserve that. --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/as-you-were-now-i-am/489317)._