# Ash vs Evil Dead

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [October 30, 2015, 11:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ash-vs-evil-dead/736216 "2015-10-30T23:22:39Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ash-vs-evil-dead/736216/61 "2015-12-23T14:18:05Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> Continuity is loose with those movies and my memory is bad. Did Ash come to the cabin once or twice? In the latest episode, he says some stuff about the “last time” he came to the cabin, but it almost sounds like they merged Evil Dead 1 and 2. He says he was “hoping to get laid” and ended up “chopping my hand off with a chainsaw”.
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> Is the show merging the first two movies?

The first two movies took place over two consecutive nights. Ash never left the cabin in The Evil Dead, it just lead directly into the event of Evil Dead 2.

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**Author:** ![Edward\_The\_Head](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ce73a5/32.png) [@Edward\_The\_Head](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Edward_The_Head)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 2:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ash-vs-evil-dead/736216/62 "2015-12-23T14:32:14Z")

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The last episode was the best one yet. There was a lot of actual tension wondering what was going to happen, something that I don’t much feel any more after years of horror movies. I thought the twin fight was great as well. I do think I need to go back and watch the first couple of movies again, it’s been a long time since I’ve seen them.

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**Author:** ![Dinsdale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/97f17d/32.png) [@Dinsdale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dinsdale)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 4:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ash-vs-evil-dead/736216/63 "2015-12-23T16:41:10Z")

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I just found that they are putting all of the eps on “on demand,” so this is my new guilty pleasure. Never saw the movies, my experience is limited to this season through the militia ep. The gore is SO ever-the-top, that somehow or another I’m able to ignore it, and just focus on the ridiculous parts. And the hot chicks!

Actually, that had me thinking a little bit. Where are the hunky men, to counterbalance the universally hot women? Or (as I suspect) is Ash just so incredibly awesome that he outweighs the need for any additional tostesterine?

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ash-vs-evil-dead/736216/64 "2015-12-23T16:49:50Z")

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> [@Dinsdale](#):
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> Actually, that had me thinking a little bit. Where are the hunky men, to counterbalance the universally hot women? Or (as I suspect) is Ash just so incredibly awesome that he outweighs the need for any additional tostesterine?

Pretty much. Campbell (and Sam Raimi, to some extent) talks constantly about how handsome a good portion of Hollywood thought he was back in the 1980s. The series plays up this attitude (and Campbell’s less-sexy march toward senior citizendom) as well.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ash-vs-evil-dead/736216/65 "2015-12-23T16:55:13Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> The first two movies took place over two consecutive nights. Ash never left the cabin in The Evil Dead, it just lead directly into the event of Evil Dead 2.

2 starts off with what amounts to a 10-minute re-write/retelling of 1.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 4:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ash-vs-evil-dead/736216/66 "2015-12-23T16:57:42Z")

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> [@Edward\_The\_Head](#):
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> The last episode was the best one yet. There was a lot of actual tension wondering what was going to happen, something that I don’t much feel any more after years of horror movies. I thought the twin fight was great as well. I do think I need to go back and watch the first couple of movies again, it’s been a long time since I’ve seen them.

It was almost a mini-Evil Dead 4.

I was stunned they killed the cop lady.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ash-vs-evil-dead/736216/67 "2015-12-23T17:03:49Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> 2 starts off with what amounts to a 10-minute re-write/retelling of 1.

And? He’s only been to the cabin once, he just spent two days there (two days that had to be partially retconned due to a rights issue with The Evil Dead). The first episode of Ash vs Evil Dead retconned it back anyway.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ash-vs-evil-dead/736216/68 "2015-12-23T17:49:08Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> The first two movies took place over two consecutive nights. Ash never left the cabin in The Evil Dead, it just lead directly into the event of Evil Dead 2.

I need to see those movies again. I usually only re-watch Evil Dead 2 and Army of Darkness.

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**Author:** ![G0sp3l](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c68b51/32.png) [@G0sp3l](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/G0sp3l)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 5:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ash-vs-evil-dead/736216/69 "2015-12-23T17:53:14Z")

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> [@Mahaloth](#):
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> It was almost a mini-Evil Dead 4.
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> I was stunned they killed the cop lady.

YOU were stunned, I was PISSED! I love Jill Marie Jones.

I’m not going to stop watching the show, and I’m not bitching about the decision but I WANTED her to be a mainstay. Now I sad. ☹

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**Author:** ![DigitalC](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ebca7d/32.png) [@DigitalC](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DigitalC)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 5:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ash-vs-evil-dead/736216/70 "2015-12-23T17:56:32Z")

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“I really hope they don’t die” “It’s ok, they have pepper spray”.

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**Author:** ![EllisDee](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ellisdee/32/4531_2.png) [@EllisDee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EllisDee)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ash-vs-evil-dead/736216/71 "2015-12-23T18:36:43Z")

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> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> And?

And that means your statement…

> [@Justin\_Bailey](#):
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> The first two movies took place over two consecutive nights. Ash never left the cabin in The Evil Dead, it just lead directly into the event of Evil Dead 2.

…is incorrect. 1 and 2 did not take place over two consecutive nights. 1 does not lead directly into 2. 2 is a different story that rewrites 1.

(Also, a pet peeve of mine: The past tense of lead is led.)

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ash-vs-evil-dead/736216/72 "2015-12-23T18:47:53Z")

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> [@EllisDee](#):
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> And that means your statement…is incorrect. 1 and 2 did not take place over two consecutive nights. 1 does not lead directly into 2. 2 is a different story that rewrites 1.

Watch it again. It’s two nights.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2015, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ash-vs-evil-dead/736216/73 "2015-12-23T18:57:45Z")

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From [The AV Club](http://www.avclub.com/tvclub/hail-king-ash-vs-evil-dead-roars-groovy-start-227498):

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> Finally, the series can properly acknowledge the 1981 original! Scotty (Richard DeManincor), Cheryl (Ellen Sandweiss), and Shelly (Theresa Tilly) are all included in Ash’s quick recap to Pablo, which should be a relief to fans. One of the weakest parts of the 1987 sequel was how Raimi couldn’t use the footage from the original and had to slim down that film’s recap to just Ash and Linda. Here they even went out of their way to include both Lindas: Betsy Baker and Denise Bixler.

Both The Evil Dead and Evil Dead 2 are canon as far as Ash vs Evil Dead is concerned. Which means that Ash was there for one night with his friends before The Evil Force tried to turn him into a Deadite. However, the sun pushed it away before the second night starts, which is when Linda comes back, along with Professor Knowby’s daughter and the hillbillies.

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**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2015, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ash-vs-evil-dead/736216/74 "2015-12-28T01:00:30Z")

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Best thing ever? Last weekends episode was pretty insane, but the ending?!

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**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2015, 4:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ash-vs-evil-dead/736216/75 "2015-12-28T04:24:43Z")

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> [@Plumpudding](#):
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> Best thing ever? Last weekends episode was pretty insane, but the ending?!

oh - it ain’t over yet -

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**Author:** ![Plumpudding](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/edb3f5/32.png) [@Plumpudding](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Plumpudding)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2015, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ash-vs-evil-dead/736216/76 "2015-12-29T23:31:39Z")

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> [@simster](#):
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> oh - it ain’t over yet -

I know, I’m really excited! That puppet show was absolutely amazing, by the way!

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2015, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ash-vs-evil-dead/736216/77 "2015-12-29T23:48:06Z")

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> [@G0sp3l](#):
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> YOU were stunned, I was PISSED! I love Jill Marie Jones.
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> I’m not going to stop watching the show, and I’m not bitching about the decision but I WANTED her to be a mainstay. Now I sad. ☹

She can still reappear - her character’s deadite form wasn’t destroyed.

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**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2015, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ash-vs-evil-dead/736216/78 "2015-12-30T17:45:12Z")

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Where does Army of Darkness fit in? Does Ash remember that he travelled back in time right after the events of Evil Dead 2?  
“Someday chopping up my evil clone will seam ‘weird’”

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2015, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ash-vs-evil-dead/736216/79 "2015-12-30T18:41:53Z")

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> [@msmith537](#):
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> Where does Army of Darkness fit in? Does Ash remember that he travelled back in time right after the events of Evil Dead 2?  
> “Someday chopping up my evil clone will seam ‘weird’”

Army of Darkness happened (the “evil clone” line can only apply to the events of AOD), but Raimi and crew are not allowed to mention it on screen due to the rights being held by Universal.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2015, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ash-vs-evil-dead/736216/80 "2015-12-30T18:56:18Z")

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I may be wrong, but his quick reference to his previous clone(in Evil Dead 3) was the first reference to the movie. It was the first indication he did indeed travel to the past and Army of Darkness did occur.

Played back to back, this season makes a fairly good Evil Dead 4.

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