# AshenLady....

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ashenlady/570469>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 7, 2011, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ashenlady/570469 "2011-02-07T01:02:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ashenlady/570469/61 "2011-02-07T03:09:56Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> Good lord, is it too much to ask for a week or two to pass without some really striking religion or ethnic-based stupidity?

In GD I keep hoping for one day–and every night I am disappointed that we have failed gain.

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**Author:** ![medicated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@medicated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/medicated)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ashenlady/570469/62 "2011-02-07T03:11:54Z")

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> [@AshenLady](#):
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> No one else uses their religion as an excuse for violence, nor would it be tolerated, why so does Islam get a pass? People have all kinds of vendettas, but they don’t use their religion to give it credence, only Islam does. Issues and problems have driven people to violence, but only Muslims do so, as an excuse to incite violence.

No one else? See, there’s this thing called the internet, where you can look up facts and stuff. No shortage of terrorists motivated by Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Hinduism, and various others. Pretty much everyone except the Jains.

You are exactly the sort of bigoted asshole that generations of Jews have despised, and fought. Congratulations.

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**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ashenlady/570469/63 "2011-02-07T03:16:22Z")

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Addressed to Finn Again:

> [@AshenLady](#):
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> You’re pretty fucked up, yourself, ole boy.

I can’t wait until she starts pointing out how he is anti-Jewish. 😃

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**Author:** ![AshenLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/94ad74/32.png) [@AshenLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AshenLady)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ashenlady/570469/64 "2011-02-07T03:16:46Z")

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I’m talking here and now…today…who is as violent as Islam?

Never mind, Packers won…all’s fine with the world.

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**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 3:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ashenlady/570469/65 "2011-02-07T03:26:04Z")

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I just want to say that this is the craziest thread I’ve read in quite some time, and that’s saying something.

Carry on.

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**Author:** ![loshan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/ce73a5/32.png) [@loshan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/loshan)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ashenlady/570469/66 "2011-02-07T03:38:27Z")

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> [@AshenLady](#):
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> I’m talking here and now…today…who is as violent as Islam?
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> Never mind, Packers won…all’s fine with the world.

Pick a Religion. Any religion.

(majors. I know some minor religions get a pass.)

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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ashenlady/570469/67 "2011-02-07T03:40:35Z")

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[QUOTE=El\_Kabong]  
I just want to say that this is the craziest thread I’ve read in quite some time, and that’s saying something.  
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I think the key word there is ‘craziest’…or at least the root of that word. Bughouse…

-XT

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**Author:** ![Chessic\_Sense](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7c8e57/32.png) [@Chessic\_Sense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chessic_Sense)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ashenlady/570469/68 "2011-02-07T04:03:15Z")

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This thread is three hours old, at 67 posts, and NO ONE has posted a link to whatever the hell started this hoopla.

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ashenlady/570469/69 "2011-02-07T04:08:25Z")

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> [@Claverhouse](#):
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> Of every place where jews were a distinctive minority, from Babylon to Egypt to Rome to medieval europe to Dar al Islam, including Ottoman Turkey, to Poland and eastern europe over the last 500 years, they seem to have heartily disliked and despised ( with possibly good reason, except no-one was forcing them to stay wherever apart from the first two ) the dominant majority.  
> […]  
> anti-jewish lunatics.

Just so we’re clear here, the history of a anti-Jewish racism and/or violence is something that you think happened “possibly with good reason”. Not like those crazy fuckers who think that Jews are wealthy.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 4:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ashenlady/570469/70 "2011-02-07T04:28:56Z")

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> [@AshenLady](#):
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> I’m talking here and now…today…who is as violent as Islam?
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> Never mind, Packers won…all’s fine with the world.

You’re an even bigger bitch than I thought.

(I’m guessing she’s even happier that the Steelers lost due to the fact that Antwaan Randle El is a _Muslim_. ;))

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ashenlady/570469/71 "2011-02-07T04:47:39Z")

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You guys know my Congressman, Kieth Ellison? From Minnesota? A Muslim. From Minnesota. And I mean, from Minnesota, having far more in common with Garrison Keillor than with Saladin. Brownish skin, but American cheese on white with mayo. All the seething charisma of Walter Mondale, the steely eyed fanaticism of Hubert Humphrey.

I try to see him as agent of some dark conspiracy, and I break into giggles.

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ashenlady/570469/72 "2011-02-07T04:53:03Z")

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Just picture him as someone who might be unable to tell Saudi Arabia’s goals from America’s goals and/or someone who might betray America to Islamic interests just like an International Communist during the cold war.  
The rest should come naturally to you.

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**Author:** ![AshenLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/94ad74/32.png) [@AshenLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AshenLady)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ashenlady/570469/73 "2011-02-07T04:56:47Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> You’re an even bigger bitch than I thought.
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> (I’m guessing she’s even happier that the Steelers lost due to the fact that Antwaan Randle El is a _Muslim_. ;))

Go fuck yourself where you breathe!!!

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ashenlady/570469/74 "2011-02-07T04:58:05Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Just picture him as someone who might be unable to tell Saudi Arabia’s goals from America’s goals and/or someone who might betray America to Islamic interests just like an International Communist during the cold war…

An ankle biting chihuahua with delusions of hyena.

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**Author:** ![AshenLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/94ad74/32.png) [@AshenLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AshenLady)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ashenlady/570469/75 "2011-02-07T04:58:39Z")

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> [@tomndebb](#):
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> Addressed to Finn Again:I can’t wait until she starts pointing out how he is anti-Jewish. 😃

Fuckwit!

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**Author:** ![AshenLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/94ad74/32.png) [@AshenLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AshenLady)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ashenlady/570469/76 "2011-02-07T04:59:51Z")

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> [@Claverhouse](#):
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> Of every place where jews were a distinctive minority, from Babylon to Egypt to Rome to medieval europe to Dar al Islam, including Ottoman Turkey, to Poland and eastern europe over the last 500 years, they seem to have heartily disliked and despised ( with possibly good reason, except no-one was forcing them to stay wherever apart from the first two ) the dominant majority.
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> The only real place they felt happy was in late 19th century Germany, once they’d left the ghetto. That didn’t work out that well.
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> For those reasons a few of them supported revolutions and idealistic changes that didn’t benefit the host countries that much in the end. Although not typical of the whole this fed into the anti-semites’ obsessions and bred distrust. The most were typified by the few.
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> And when I say not _typical of the whole_ it can never ever be emphasized too much that most jewish people throughout history have been dirt-poor: as opposed to the baroque fantasies of ‘wealthy exploiting jews’ favoured by anti-jewish lunatics. There may be a Rothschild Family, with a rich and wondrous internet sub-culture devoted to their alleged machinations, but most were not Rothschilds.
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> Even in Poland.

drop dead and go to hell.

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ashenlady/570469/77 "2011-02-07T05:02:17Z")

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> [@AshenLady](#):
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> drop dead and go to hell.

You have very little room to complain about someone else’s bigotry or stupidity, except that it’s not the sort you support.  
You may want to clear up your stupidity and bigotry first, and then come up with a more cohesive argument than “Damn you, hate the correct people!”

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**Author:** ![AshenLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/94ad74/32.png) [@AshenLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AshenLady)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ashenlady/570469/78 "2011-02-07T05:04:26Z")

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> [@FinnAgain](#):
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> You have very little room to complain about someone else’s bigotry or stupidity, except that it’s not the sort you support.  
> You may want to clear up your stupidity and bigotry first, and then come up with a more cohesive argument than “Damn you, hate the correct people!”

Drop dead.

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**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 5:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ashenlady/570469/79 "2011-02-07T05:06:51Z")

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Oooh, somebody’s cranky!

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ashenlady/570469/80 "2011-02-07T05:10:33Z")

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Unlike some of our more seasoned posters, you don’t even seem smart enough to cloak your bigotry with weasel wording. You won’t last long.  
Shalom, chaver.

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