# AshenLady....

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ashenlady/570469>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 7, 2011, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ashenlady/570469 "2011-02-07T01:02:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Mr.Excellent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f19dbf/32.png) [@Mr.Excellent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Excellent)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ashenlady/570469/101 "2011-02-07T14:57:26Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> I vaguely sympathize with Ashen’s views, since I accept the remote possibility of modern pogroms.
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> Just her views, though, not her childish behaviour.

Okay, this is actually interesting. Why do you believe that pogroms are a realistic possibility, albeit a remote one? Anti-semitism seems pretty far outside the political mainstream in Western democracies.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Scud](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f08c70/32.png) [@Tom\_Scud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Scud)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ashenlady/570469/102 "2011-02-07T15:01:45Z")

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> [@Chessic\_Sense](#):
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> This thread is three hours old, at 67 posts, and NO ONE has posted a link to whatever the hell started this hoopla.

Well, she’s been shitting on the Egypt threads since before the protesters moved into Tahrir Square ([this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13405227&postcount=5) is her original and still the best entry), though [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13436599&postcount=88) is the one where she successfully takes the spotlight away from Valteron in the anti-Muslim frothing section.

Here’s an [extra bonus from a couple months earlier](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13386100&postcount=153):

> [@](#):
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> Shame the A bomb wasn’t developed for WWI. Then WWII could have been avoided. I wish that Germany had been A bombed in WWII. They got off way easy.

And hey, here she is [saying “me too” to Le Jacquelope](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=13418762#post13418762), the previous holder of the “stupidest poster on this board, Left side of the Aisle edition” award.

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**Author:** ![GiantRat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@GiantRat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GiantRat)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ashenlady/570469/103 "2011-02-07T15:06:44Z")

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> [@AshenLady](#):
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> The GOP has already called for a cessation of ALL aid to Israel, Rand Paul, Tea Baggers and they are using financial problems as a reason to cut aid to Israel.

Oh noes! Maybe Israel should learn to take care of itself!

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**Author:** ![GiantRat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e47c2d/32.png) [@GiantRat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GiantRat)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ashenlady/570469/104 "2011-02-07T15:12:51Z")

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> [@tomndebb](#):
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> Addressed to Finn Again:I can’t wait until she starts pointing out how he is anti-Jewish. 😃

Mossad.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ashenlady/570469/105 "2011-02-07T15:19:02Z")

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Mossad what?

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**Author:** ![Godinama](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e95f7d/32.png) [@Godinama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Godinama)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ashenlady/570469/106 "2011-02-07T15:29:52Z")

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> [@AshenLady](#):
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> No one else uses their religion as an excuse for violence, nor would it be tolerated, why so does Islam get a pass? People have all kinds of vendettas, but they don’t use their religion to give it credence, only Islam does. Issues and problems have driven people to violence, but only Muslims do so, as an excuse to incite violence.

It is the same god, is it not?

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**Author:** ![XT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/xt/32/456_2.png) [@XT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/XT)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ashenlady/570469/107 "2011-02-07T15:33:18Z")

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My favorite Ashenlady quotes are from [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=595317) thread:

> [@](#):
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> I don’t care if I’m called a bleeding heart liberal. I don’t think folks should go hungry in this country, in this day and age.

She loves to play the victim card. Some of her links were hilarious if you actually bothered to go read them in the context of the discussion. I don’t think she is as Pit worthy as Le Jackass…more like a female version of gonzomax. Thought the racist aspects sort of put her on a different level than The Gonz (and she is more open about it than Le Jackass), so I think the Pitting is appropriate.

-XT

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ashenlady/570469/108 "2011-02-07T15:45:18Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> Mossad what?

Mossad and deweed the grass. Spring is almost here!

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**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ashenlady/570469/109 "2011-02-07T15:50:49Z")

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> [@GiantRat](#):
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> Oh noes! Maybe Israel should learn to take care of itself!

In all fairness, the US gives shitloads of aid to LOTS of countries. Singling out Israel to take away aid would be sketchy.

OTOH, Israel is one of the US’ primary aid recipients and a decent argument could be made that the US could reasonably reduce its aid to Israel. Buuuuut there are some complicated foreign policy reasons we give Israel that much aid. I’m uncaffeinated and need to go to work or I would go into them. But it’s pretty simplistic to say that Israel just learn to take care of itself.

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**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ashenlady/570469/110 "2011-02-07T16:04:44Z")

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I for one am deeply ashamed at the wholesale rejection of any and all Jews by the population of the United States of America. I mean, we keep them in ghettos and never let them hold any positions of influence or power.

I mean, right? :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Capitaine\_Zombie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e95f7d/32.png) [@Capitaine\_Zombie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Capitaine_Zombie)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ashenlady/570469/111 "2011-02-07T16:05:52Z")

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> [@Kyla](#):
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> In all fairness, the US gives shitloads of aid to LOTS of countries. Singling out Israel to take away aid would be sketchy.
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> OTOH, Israel is one of the US’ primary aid recipients and a decent argument could be made that the US could reasonably reduce its aid to Israel. Buuuuut there are some complicated foreign policy reasons we give Israel that much aid. I’m uncaffeinated and need to go to work or I would go into them. But it’s pretty simplistic to say that Israel just learn to take care of itself.

**Giantrat** was almost certainly ironic here. Maybe we should put a “Irony” sticker whenever we feel inclined to post in such ways.

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**Author:** ![chela](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chela/32/21582_2.png) [@chela](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chela)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ashenlady/570469/112 "2011-02-07T17:30:07Z")

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Ashenlady  
Give up your vows  
Save our city

now thanks for the earworm!

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**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ashenlady/570469/113 "2011-02-07T17:42:01Z")

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> [@chela](#):
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> Ashenlady  
> Give up your vows  
> Save our city
> 
> now thanks for the earworm!

It reminds me of Green Eyed Lady, Ashen’s Lady, myself.

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**Author:** ![AshenLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/94ad74/32.png) [@AshenLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AshenLady)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ashenlady/570469/114 "2011-02-07T17:49:42Z")

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I’ts a great day in the neighborhood. Glad I was able to provide a high level of entertainment, as well as some head shaking.

It does the spirit some good. - Ashen Lady

PS…If you think I’m off the wall now…just wait until Yom Hashoa…that’s a difficult day of remembrance for me.

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ashenlady/570469/115 "2011-02-07T18:00:46Z")

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This whole thread makes about as much sense as, oh, I don’t know…this!  
**Cartman** : “Don’t call me fat, you fucking Jew!”  
**Mr. Garrison** : “Eric, did you just say the F-word?”  
**Cartman** : “Jew?”

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 6:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ashenlady/570469/116 "2011-02-07T18:03:54Z")

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"How many “f’s” are there in “Jew?”

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**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ashenlady/570469/117 "2011-02-07T18:09:23Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> Mossad what?

Mossad-a-gadda-davida, baby!

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**Author:** ![AshenLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/94ad74/32.png) [@AshenLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AshenLady)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ashenlady/570469/118 "2011-02-07T18:21:10Z")

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> [@John\_Mace](#):
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> **AshenLady** : What people are objecting to is that you are saying if someone isn’t rabidly anti-Muslim then he must hate Jews. It’s that simple.

Thanks John: I was in Israel in my teens and I was there for the Yom Kippur War in 1973. In fact, I almost just got to Israel in time for that war of aggression by the people of Egypt and their ruler. That being said, I suffered from PTSD, (not a victim, just a fact), having lost people I loved during that war. When Anwar Sadat was assassinated because he made peace with Israel, as well as whatever other factions were at play in Egypt, one cannot deny that there is an animosity between the two groups and that it goes back well before 1973.

I hope that someday peace will prevail in the middle east. However, at this time, there are Arabs, many of them, who would like to do a “Daniel Pearl” on every Jew in the world. So long as this is the status quo, why would I not despise what Muslims do, in the name of Islam and for Muslims.

“One cannot sit in the middle of traffic, because then you get hit by traffic on both sides”.

> **[Myths & Facts -The Treatment of Jews in Arab/Islamic Countries](https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/myths-and-facts-the-treatment-of-jews-in-arab-islamic-countries)**
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> Encyclopedia of Jewish and Israeli history, politics and culture, with biographies, statistics, articles and documents on topics from anti-Semitism to Zionism.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ashenlady/570469/119 "2011-02-07T18:23:11Z")

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> [@AshenLady](#):
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> at this time, there are Arabs, many of them, who would like to do a “Daniel Pearl” on every Jew in the world. So long as this is the status quo, why would I not despise what Muslims do, in the name of Islam and for Muslims.

Your other posts have been bad enough, but if you can’t tell the difference between Arabs and Muslims, you really owe it to yourself to shut up.

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**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2011, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ashenlady/570469/120 "2011-02-07T18:23:54Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> "How many “f’s” are there in “Jew?”

We’ll never know til I’m dead.

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