# AshenLady.... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 7, 2011, 1:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ashenlady/570469 "2011-02-07T01:02:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 1\ **Showing post:** 201
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2011, 4:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ashenlady/570469/201 "2011-02-10T04:19:17Z")
> [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > if your views on antisemitism differ in any explicable respect from **AshenLady** ’s, you would do well to explain how. Did you just miss the part about how you’re roughly as stupid as Gonzomax? Why on Earth would I try to explain anything so that it could penetrate your neutron-dense skull? And seeing as how pitifully stupid you are, and you can’t even figure out that it’d be on you to show how my comments are the same as hers, and not on me to show that they’re different, why should I waste time on your retarded-class Fetch Quest of a request? > [@ElvisL1ves](#): > > > [@Finn](#): > > > > Not too bright, are ya? > > Figured out yet that the phrases “holding the wolf by the ears” or “holding the tiger by the tail” aren’t, in fact, calling people subhuman and are, in fact, examples of common idioms that you lack the intellect and knowledge to comprehend? > > WTF are you on about? You seem to have me confused with somebody else. No, as I’ve pointed out you have a sub-functional brain. Perhaps, when God was handing out brains, he gave you an etch-a-sketch? Do you hear a sound like sand sliding if you tilt your head quickly in one direction or another? > [@Will Israel dismantle unauthorized settlements?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-israel-dismantle-unauthorized-settlements/498504/120): > > > [@Will Israel dismantle unauthorized settlements?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-israel-dismantle-unauthorized-settlements/498504/119): > > > > > [@Will Israel dismantle unauthorized settlements?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-israel-dismantle-unauthorized-settlements/498504/118): > > > > > > > [@Will Israel dismantle unauthorized settlements?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-israel-dismantle-unauthorized-settlements/498504/117): > > > > > > > > > [@Will Israel dismantle unauthorized settlements?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-israel-dismantle-unauthorized-settlements/498504/108): > > > > > > > > > > > [@Will Israel dismantle unauthorized settlements?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-israel-dismantle-unauthorized-settlements/498504/110): > > > > > > > > > > > > > [@Will Israel dismantle unauthorized settlements?](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/will-israel-dismantle-unauthorized-settlements/498504/113): > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The problem with the WB is that Israel now has the wolf by the ears. It wasn’t Israel’s fault that it grabbed the wolf in the first place - that’s the end result of a war of aggression against it, you may recall > > > > > > > > > > > > Part of the problem is seeing their neighbors, their fellow human beings, as “wolves”, innit? :dubious: What kind of response can they expect from that? > > > > > > > > > > It’s a metaphore for the situation, not a commentary on their humanity. :rolleyes: Further, I’m not addressing the Palestinians in person and I’m not an Israeli. > > > > > > > > Yet you’ve only provided a metaphor for one side, unless you think the Palestinians think of \*themselves \*as “wolves”. Is that the case? > > > > > > Give me a metaphore that is equally apropos for the situation and casts Israelis in the “animal role” and I’d happily adopt it. Or, conversely, be offended. Frankly I don’t care. 🙂 > > > > How about a metaphor that casts \*both \*peoples is the \*human \*role? Could you adopt one of those instead? > > Perhaps I could grab the bull by the horns. But given how you are crying wolf over the issue … I think you are like the dog in the manger on the subject of metaphores. And since stupidity is the gift that keeps giving, you later went at it _again_. > [@Serdar Argic's cousin is a member of the SDMB](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serdar-argics-cousin-is-a-member-of-the-sdmb/500961/53): > > > [@Serdar Argic's cousin is a member of the SDMB](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serdar-argics-cousin-is-a-member-of-the-sdmb/500961/50): > > > > > [@Serdar Argic's cousin is a member of the SDMB](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serdar-argics-cousin-is-a-member-of-the-sdmb/500961/51): > > > > > > > [@Serdar Argic's cousin is a member of the SDMB](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serdar-argics-cousin-is-a-member-of-the-sdmb/500961/49): > > > > > > > > > [@Serdar Argic's cousin is a member of the SDMB](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/serdar-argics-cousin-is-a-member-of-the-sdmb/500961/48): > > > > > > > > > > The highlight is our mutual friend **ElvisL1ves** taking extreme offense at my use of the expression “having the wolf by the ears” in reference to the Israel-Palestine situation on the WB. He took this to mean Israelis literally thought Palestinians were _subhuman_, and could not be moved from this POV. > > > > > > > > > > So yes, I think you are quite accurate - he’s simply too stupid to understand what is under discussion (or alternatively, deliberately _plays_ being stupid for laughs). > > > > > > > > Not “Israelis”, you. YOU. It was your own analogy. When asked if YOU could consider any other analogy, one that did not portray other humans as animals, YOU could not. > > > > > > > > Perhaps you ought to go back and reread your own spluttering before you get caught in any more such silly lies. > > > > > > > > Less schmuck, more mensch, bubbeleh. :rolleyes: > > > > > > Dude. 😃 > > > [quoting you, idiot] Not so fast with the rolleyes, please. You offered it as a metaphor for the Israeli POV, and that POV is what I’ve been trying to address and that you, among others, have instead been trying to rationalize. [/quoting you, idiot] > > > > It was actually Thomas Jefferson’s analogy. His quote about slavery is actually pretty apropos to the Israeli-Palestinian situation: [quoting Jefferson, idiot] > > "But, as it is, we have the wolf by the ear, and we can neither hold him, nor safely let him go. Justice is in one scale, and self-preservation in the other. "[/quoting Jefferson, idiot] > > Jefferson was referring to an _institution_, not a people. Makes a difference, doesn’t it? > > **Malthus** and **FinnAgain** are, as they showed in that thread, self-blinded to the point of being unable to consider Arabs even as fellow human beings. As pointed out, even common idioms are something your tiny etch-a-sketch cannot process, so you just spew pure liquid stupid. Just so we’re clear here, of course I view Arabs, Muslims, Jews, Asians, Africans, etc… as fully human. You, however, are somewhat sub-human. I think you are probably some evolutionary throwback, an Australopithecus afarensis thawed out of some glacier somewhere and taught to post on the internet and do party tricks. After your “daddy” and “mommy” taught you how to annoy people online, one of the first things they taught you was how to catch a thrown potato chip in your mouth, wasn’t it? --- _[View the full topic](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ashenlady/570469)._