The only reason Harvard can “create diversity” (which, again, to them means artificially letting in whites to keep the class from becoming too non-diversely Asian) in this way is because they are a private institution and have great leeway to do pretty much anything they want short of openly having a no-blacks policy, which no one is alleging they do.
You can’t point to any public college or government-run agency that practices affirmative action by creating diversity through handicapping nonwhites and promoting undeserving whites, because such a concept is incoherent and ridiculous and only exists in your tortured justifications for the Keep Harvard White movement.
I am much more concerned with diversity at the primary care level than at the specialist level. Or do you think we have too many primary care physicians?
I am not concerned with what the doctor looks like if the majority of your interaction with him is while you are under anesthesia or if you are seeing her because she is a specialist. I am a little concerned that the doctors in Far Rockaway are almost all Asian serving and almost all Black community.
Its not reparations that should be passed out to every black person. It is leveling the playing field to compensate for past and current discrimination. Its not like every black child in America would be going to Harvard but for slavery and Jim Crow.
I don’t think I asked you to explain yourself. But if you took it as me taking a shot at you I apologize.
Small belated update and additional factor to be considered.
In early July the U.S. Education Department dismissed the complaint. Despite the bemoaning by petition organizers that “They really let the Asian-American community down.” the significance is not so huge as there is still a similar case filed in Federal court.
Meanwhile a recent radio report about college suicides among high achievers got me wondering what the rate of suicide is among Asian college students. Not much hard data, apparently just not kept. Definitely more suicidal ideation, even in High School. Otherwise we are left with anecdotal bits like this from MIT.
So whatever discrimination Princeton does or does not engage in is within the bounds of the law as far as the DoJ is concerned. This probably means that Harvard et al will get similar results.
Until Fisher is decided by SCOTUS, the DoJ’s opinion is not very significant.
At issue for schools will be whether post-Fisher they can use race-alone criteria in their selection processes. Underneath all the hoopla is a simple fact: the best-qualified candidates from all (self-identified) race groups come from privileged backgrounds.
Schools which want to be selective for candidates who are highly qualified academically face the stark reality that almost all highly-qualified blacks come from highly privileged backgrounds (as is true across the board for all races). But as a race bloc, their average scores are substantially below the average scores for other races with similar socioeconomic backgrounds. As a consequence of this, there is no way to get race-based diversity with excellent black students without having a race-based academic standard unique to each race group, and lower for blacks.
Fisher is not about Fisher being less qualified than students who were admitted. It’s about U Texas’s right to preferentially race-qualify middle/upper class blacks over middle/upper class whites and asians, since U Texas could get race-alone diversity using the 10% guideline.
Ivy Leagues and others have essentially argued that their holistic approaches satisfy race-specific concerns, but if Fisher goes against U Texas, future suits will be able to wrest data that is currently not being coerced into exposure by the DoJ (which is fairly race-friendly, so to speak).
I’m curious how you feel about my position which some could construe as anti-white. I don’t mind affirmative action for the descendants of American slaves (at least for another decade or so and American Indians for a significantly longer period of time) but I want college admissions to be color and gender blind in all other respects (although I would be open to a socioeconomic bias by using something like the Texas 10% model). I am particularly offended by biases in favor of white children on the presumption that they are individuals while Asians are fungible SAT scores.
An entrance exam with only a number to identify the applicant to be held outside of the university system (school/college) sounds fare, we could do with the same system in the U.K.
It should be but only if you have gone to the right school. where I live you stand a better chance if you go to the private school than if you go to the local 6th form (which is excellent) at the end of the day we still have a class system where it is perceived that you must be the right type of person