# Asian girls and white guys

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asian-girls-and-white-guys/106940>\
**Category:** In My Humble Opinion\
**Created:** [May 2, 2002, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asian-girls-and-white-guys/106940 "2002-05-02T21:04:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![MrO](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/50afbb/32.png) [@MrO](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrO)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2002, 10:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asian-girls-and-white-guys/106940/41 "2002-05-03T10:16:45Z")

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Oh yeah–not to leave anyone out, I also used to go out with a Bahrainian woman, an East Indian woman, and an American Indian woman (not all at once, darn it). It’s the dark hair and dark eyes that do it for me. Not that there’s anything wrong with blondes, you understand. (And the ex MrsO is a redhead.)

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**Author:** ![Kayeby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9de0a6/32.png) [@Kayeby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kayeby)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2002, 10:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asian-girls-and-white-guys/106940/42 "2002-05-03T10:17:05Z")

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Here in Melbourne there is quite a large Asian population as well. I’ve also noticed that Asian girl/non-Asian guy pairings are much more common than the other way around - my boyfriend is non-Asian and I’ve only ever dated non-Asian guys.

Heh, my boyfriend is reading this thread.

Boyfriend: Are you proud to be an Asian girl?

Me: I don’t really care I guess.

Boyfriend: But everybody wants you!

Me: No they don’t!

Boyfriend: Yes they do. You’re a very desirable woman.

😃

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**Author:** ![LolaBaby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d2c977/32.png) [@LolaBaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LolaBaby)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2002, 10:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asian-girls-and-white-guys/106940/43 "2002-05-03T10:23:59Z")

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I’m Asian and I’ve dated white men. I like 'em, although at the time, I never thought, “oh I’m Asian, and he’s WHITE”. I just went 'cause I thought, “ooh, smart, funny, and sexy!” Which is what I require of my men, no matter what race. 😃

Ummm, a few of them, have said that my “exotic” looks is what got them. 😕

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**Author:** ![LolaBaby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d2c977/32.png) [@LolaBaby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LolaBaby)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2002, 10:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asian-girls-and-white-guys/106940/44 "2002-05-03T10:30:18Z")

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I must add that I’ve been in chat rooms where I have seen idiots spouting off " ALL Asian chicks are fucking ugly", “I’ve heard they squeal like pigs when having sex” and blah de blah.

So whatever. Not EVERYONE thinks we are ideal.

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**Author:** ![istara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e79b87/32.png) [@istara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/istara)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2002, 11:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asian-girls-and-white-guys/106940/45 "2002-05-03T11:14:50Z")

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I wouldn’t kick Chow Yung Fat out of bed, and I’m a white girl.

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**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2002, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asian-girls-and-white-guys/106940/46 "2002-05-03T13:26:36Z")

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> \*Originally posted by ShibbOleth \*  
> **I married one.**

Me too.

My wife is 100% Chinese (from Hong Kong). I’m really not sure what her parents thought about her marrying a “white guy.” But I do have a suspicion… about 4 months before we got married, her parents floated the idea of _me_ paying _them_ a **dowry**. I am not making this up. “Um, how much are we talking about, here?” I asked. “$14,000 U.S. dollars.”

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

Needless to say, I was floored. I told my wife-to-be that there was no way in hell I was going to pay money to her parents for the “privilege” of marrying their daughter. Besides, I didn’t even _have_ 14,000! Well to make a long story short, I (obviously) did not pay them the !@#% dowry. They flew here (to the U.S.) to attend the wedding anyway.

That was 6 years ago. Her parents now reside in New Zealand, so I’m not complaining. (Crafter\_Man’s Domestic tranquility Tip #101: Live halfway around the world from your in-laws. ;))

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**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2002, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asian-girls-and-white-guys/106940/47 "2002-05-03T14:30:15Z")

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I suspect for a lot of white men, the attraction to Asian women has to do more with their perception of what Asian women are like than the physical appearance of Asian women.

A dear friend of mine is often mistaken for an Indian or Filipina, and is often approached by men who are attracted to her “exotic beauty”. She tells me that these men usually suddenly loose interest the moment they discover that she’s not Asian at all, but a very light-skinned, straight-haired African-American. She has literally had men stop talking to her and walk away.

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**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2002, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asian-girls-and-white-guys/106940/48 "2002-05-03T14:48:42Z")

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> \*Originally posted by istara \*  
> \*\*I wouldn’t kick Chow Yung Fat out of bed, and I’m a white girl. \*\*

My Caucasian/Amerind wife has a couple of celebrity crushes on Asian men: FoodTV chef Ming Tsai, _Vanishing Son’s_ Russell Wong, and Daniel Dae Kim (sleazy Wolfram & Hart lawyer Gavin Park on UPN’s _Angel_).

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**Author:** ![bordelond](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bordelond/32/150_2.png) [@bordelond](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bordelond)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2002, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asian-girls-and-white-guys/106940/49 "2002-05-03T14:52:42Z")

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> \*Originally posted by ShibbOleth \*  
> **Of course he looked vaguely like Dean Cain …**

I had forgotten this, but you’ve reminded me – [Dean Cain is 1/4 Japanese](http://us.imdb.com/Bio?Cain,+Dean). So that means that A LOT of white girls I’ve known had a “thing” for a partially-Asian man.

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**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2002, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asian-girls-and-white-guys/106940/50 "2002-05-03T15:12:46Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Goo \*  
> **Alas, I married a dutch boy**

_Alas??_

Count your blessings, woman, for you have married a Clog Boy! Seriously, life doesn’t GET any better than that. 😃

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**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2002, 3:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asian-girls-and-white-guys/106940/51 "2002-05-03T15:19:06Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Turpentine \*  
> \*\*Oh god, this makes me ill.
> 
> It’s all HIS fault!
> 
> All these fucking white men who have a THING for Asian girls.
> 
> I went out with a guy who had a THING for Asian girls. It’s all the rage, it’s stylish right now to have a THING for Asian girls.
> 
> To me it borders on fetishism, because it seems to me that some men don’t really care what the girl is like, as long as she’s Asian.
> 
> Anyway, my ex would practically cream his pants every single time he ever saw an Asian girl and it made me feel quite inadequate.
> 
> I’ve never been racist, and I’ve tried to be politically correct, but this guy just made me so mad-
> 
> Because of him I started resenting every Asian girl I saw.  
> And then I hated myself for resenting Asian girls because I didn’t want to be racist.  
> And still now, every time a guy starts talking about how much hotter Asian girls are than white girls, I feel a little sick.
> 
> Dammit, being Asian is NOT the only Ideal of Beauty.
> 
> Anyway, a while ago I had a dream that this adorable Asian girl was giggling and showing off her underwear to everyone in the dorm. Everyone thought she was the cutest thing in the world.  
> Then she leaped on my back playfully and giggled, “I bet I could beat you up!! Hee hee hee…”
> 
> And I said “Oh yeah?” Then I threw her clear across the room where she smashed into a shelf full of paint cans, which came thumping down on her.
> 
> I am ashamed to admit how much pleasure that dream gave me. \*\*

Hey Turpentine, what if the woman was blond? Remember gentlemen prefer blonds. Like that’s normal? So, what’s wrong with being physically attracted to Asians? I for one am fucking sick of hearing that I must be some sort of freak cause I’m attracted to Asian women.

The next thing I always hear is she must be dumb as a soap dish.

Then I hear you must like submissive women.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Shows an amazing depth of pure ignorance if someone says that Asian women are submissive. If you don’t believe me, marry one and you’ll soon find out.

I hate to generallize about _all_ Asian women as if they were one homogeneous group with a shared culture and language, because nothing could be further from the truth. But, I am certainly attracted to Asian women and have been since I first started noticing girls in California. I’ve also had blonde and brunette and redheaded girlfriends. In addition, being as how I’m into Asian culture and speak two Asian languages, yep there is something about many Asian women on both a mental and physical level that attracts me like a tractor beam.

I have a few western female friends that are totally into western guys. Why is this a problem for anyone? Having a thing for redheads is perfectly normal, professing a physical attraction for Tibetan women is a perversion. I’ve been hearing these lines and many more for 25 years.

BTW, my wife is Mainland Chinese. I get along great with her father. I’m not so hot on her mother. Neither parent could care less that I was a white guy when we got married, nor has it ever been an issue since then.

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**Author:** ![kasuo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8c91f0/32.png) [@kasuo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kasuo)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2002, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asian-girls-and-white-guys/106940/52 "2002-05-03T15:21:51Z")

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After reading everything and based on experience, I believe that the media has a lot to do with why there are more Asian female/White male couples.

Amongst my friends, I like to call it the “Vietnam war” syndrome. I guess I watched **Full Metal Jacket** too many times…

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**Author:** ![Coldfire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@Coldfire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Coldfire)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2002, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asian-girls-and-white-guys/106940/53 "2002-05-03T15:24:11Z")

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> \*Originally posted by EasyPhil \*  
> \*\*I’ve been noticing a lot of asian women with black men here in NYC. I wonder why that is? My girlfriend, who’s japanese, has a preference for black men as well. Damn, I’m lucky! \*\*

Yes, you are. But please don’t start _another_ thread on it. 😃

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> **_MrO said:_  
> I’ll admit that I’ve always been drawn to women with dark hair and eyes, but that includes Asians, Latinas, black girls and white girls too. It’s just that I’ve been in Asia for the past 10 years. What was I supposed to do?**

Import a white girl, I suppose. 😉

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**Author:** ![Crafter\_Man](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crafter_man/32/458_2.png) [@Crafter\_Man](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Crafter_Man)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2002, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asian-girls-and-white-guys/106940/54 "2002-05-03T15:28:48Z")

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> \*Originally posted by China Guy \*  
> **It shows an amazing depth of pure ignorance if someone says that Asian women are submissive. If you don’t believe me, marry one and you’ll soon find out.**

They’re supposed to be submissive:confused: Wish someone would inform my wife of this.

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**Author:** ![Tranquilis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tranquilis/32/3639_2.png) [@Tranquilis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tranquilis)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2002, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asian-girls-and-white-guys/106940/55 "2002-05-03T16:42:54Z")

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> \*Originally posted by TheLoadedDog \*  
> **The only thing that pisses me off is guys who think she’s a mail order bride. Or guys who think I’ve chosen a submissive little kitchen slave. Suggest that to my girlfriend (or indeed most of the Asian women I know) and she’d give you a swift kick in the goolies.**

Hahahaahaaaa…!

Being ex-Navy, I’ve got loads of buddies with Asian wives (mostly Philippinas), and man! You ever want to see a man lose control of his house, look what happens when a Westerner marries a tradition-minded Asian woman. Sure, he’s ‘king of the house’, but it’s a figure-head role only. All decisions are hers.

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**Author:** ![Space\_Vampire](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Space\_Vampire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Space_Vampire)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2002, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asian-girls-and-white-guys/106940/56 "2002-05-03T19:20:21Z")

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> \*Originally posted by LolaBaby \*  
> \*\*  
> Ummm, a few of them, have said that my “exotic” looks is what got them. 😕 \*\*

That’s exactly the kind of guy you DON’T want. I don’t consider Asian girls/women “exotic” at all, having far more direct contact with them than white girls/women. They are just on average better looking.

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**Author:** ![heptapod](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a88e4f/32.png) [@heptapod](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/heptapod)\
**Post date:** [May 3, 2002, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asian-girls-and-white-guys/106940/57 "2002-05-03T20:25:37Z")

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> \*Originally posted by JThunder \*  
> **whereas Asian male/white female pairings are uncommon and considered a bit odd.**

This one is way too easy. WINKY EMOTICON

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**Author:** ![China\_Guy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/779978/32.png) [@China\_Guy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/China_Guy)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2002, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asian-girls-and-white-guys/106940/58 "2002-05-04T00:21:03Z")

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I meant to say, I have a few western female friends that are totally into Asian guys. A couple are really attracted to Zhang Yimou, the actor and director (Farewell to my Concubine, Red Sorgum, The Old Well, etc).

They certainly are much more in a minority.

If you look at Asian language classes, at least when I was studying, there were more white males that white females.

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**Author:** ![TheLoadedDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/35a633/32.png) [@TheLoadedDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheLoadedDog)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2002, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asian-girls-and-white-guys/106940/59 "2002-05-04T00:52:18Z")

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> \*Originally posted by Space Vampire \*  
> \*\*That’s exactly the kind of guy you DON’T want. I don’t consider Asian girls/women “exotic” at all, having far more direct contact with them than white girls/women. They are just on average better looking. \*\*

That’s how I feel too. My preference for Asian women has nothing to do with exotica. I think they simply look good. 🙂 Sydney has a massive Asian population (a WAG would be about 30 - 40 % ), and in my suburb, the population is probably closer to about 50 or 60 % Asian. It’s a very multicultural city, so there’s not much which I could consider exotic (we’ve also got lots of Greeks, Italians, Lebanese, South Americans, Indians, Islanders, and just about anything else you could think of). My workplace reflects this mix too, so I’ve been deeply immersed in Asian culture 24 / 7 for the past twelve years.

A black American woman would probably be considered exotic here (actually the ones I’ve met are beating guys back with a stick). Heck, a _white_ American woman would be considered exotic outside the tourist areas - Australian blokes are suckers for the accent.

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**Author:** ![Tsubaki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/d07c76/32.png) [@Tsubaki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tsubaki)\
**Post date:** [May 4, 2002, 1:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asian-girls-and-white-guys/106940/60 "2002-05-04T01:41:09Z")

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Well, according to **JThunder** , I’m odd. And so are the 500 or so other Western women that I know of who have married Japanese guys (and that’s just those I know, and that’s only Japanese men).

**China Guy** , in all the Asian Studies classes I’ve been in, white women outnumber the white guys by a large majority. YMMV.

I don’t have a thing for Asian guys. I have a thing for guys who are good looking, who are funny, who treat me and others with respect. I didn’t marry my husband because he’s Japanese, I married him because he asked me and I love him. His being Japanese is totally incidental.

Going on what I’ve read in this thread, it seems that guys grow to like a type of girl and then don’t vary from that. I know that’s not exactly TRUE but read through this thread and that’s the impression that’s given out. Whereas women (and I’m going on my feelings and what my women friends have told me) go more on what the individual guy has going for him. Again, YMMV.

To finish, Mr isn’t effeminate in the least. Yeah, he’s short, but man is he built! And he fills out his underwear very nicely, thankyou.

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