# Asians new fad fear **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 17, 2007, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asians-new-fad-fear/400535 "2007-04-17T23:05:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asians-new-fad-fear/400535/21 "2007-04-18T02:45:29Z")
[QUOTE=Scissorjack] Moody Loners With Handguns Lobby Congress For Foreign Labour Restrictions. [/QUOTE] I’ll meet you all on the 7th level - I just laughed out loud at this. ---
**Author:** ![TheOnlySaneOne](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/67e7ee/32.png) [@TheOnlySaneOne](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheOnlySaneOne)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asians-new-fad-fear/400535/22 "2007-04-18T03:59:51Z")
[QUOTE=if6was9] Sorry, **SaneOne**. I’ve come to expect the worst… ☹ [/QUOTE] No worries, **if6**. You just became the first person to swear at me in the Pit after my long years here, so it is worth it. ---
**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asians-new-fad-fear/400535/23 "2007-04-18T04:38:09Z")
[QUOTE=Scissorjack] American Schools Outsource Shooting Sprees To Asia: Campus Cites Greater Productivity, Lower Costs. [/QUOTE] It’s true though, right? Other school shooters had shotguns and hunting rifles and even pipe bombs but they’re dwarfed in terms of body count by an Asian with a pistol. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asians-new-fad-fear/400535/24 "2007-04-18T05:07:22Z")
[QUOTE=Scissorjack] American Schools Outsource Shooting Sprees To Asia: Campus Cites Greater Productivity, Lower Costs. [/QUOTE] If that’s not in _The Onion,_ it should be! ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asians-new-fad-fear/400535/25 "2007-04-18T05:08:48Z")
[QUOTE=mstay] It’s true though, right? Other school shooters had shotguns and hunting rifles and even pipe bombs but they’re dwarfed in terms of body count by an Asian with a pistol. [/QUOTE] Is there **anything** those guys can’t do better?! ☹ ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asians-new-fad-fear/400535/26 "2007-04-18T05:10:38Z")
[QUOTE=CynicalGabe] [Don’t forget this guy!](http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/11/23/hunters.killed/index.html) [/QUOTE] Not to mention [this one!](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fu_manchu) ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 5:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asians-new-fad-fear/400535/27 "2007-04-18T05:13:06Z")
[QUOTE=Stranger On A Train] I think his point is that when people get frightened or are otherwise under stress, they revert to primitive, xenophobic bigotry as a default response. It’s a sad state of affairs, but that’s humanity for you. On one hand, you get Shakespeare, Michaelangelo, and Louis Armstrong; on the other, you get fascism, ethnic clensing, and _The Turner Diaries_. It would be nice if we could sift out the bad and keep only the good . . . [/QUOTE] Yeah, well, that was Hitler’s idea, at least by his lights. And he hasn’t been the only one who tried. ---
**Author:** ![Windwalker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/5e9695/32.png) [@Windwalker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Windwalker)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 5:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asians-new-fad-fear/400535/28 "2007-04-18T05:14:44Z")
God, what an awful tragedy and a surprisingly funny thread. I was just having this discussion with someone, too. It’s about time we bananas got recognition beyond math, science, and kung fu. We can use guns and go on murderous rampages, too! Twinkie emotions Gone Wild! yay. ☹ ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asians-new-fad-fear/400535/29 "2007-04-18T05:15:54Z")
[QUOTE=Shagnasty] It used to be all about the white man when it comes to this stuff. Got four bodies and some crappy letters - look at the white man. Wonder who is coming to work with an AK-47 tomorrow? - look at the white man. [/QUOTE] I recall one _Law & Order_ episode about a high-school shooting. Some evidence pointed to a black kid, but the captain was reluctant to accept that on the grounds that a black kid “doesn’t fit the profile.” Turned out she was right – the boy had a solid alibi as he was visiting his father in prison at the time of the shooting. And the actual shooter turned out to be a white boy. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asians-new-fad-fear/400535/30 "2007-04-18T05:46:45Z")
[Highly relevant, serious, non-satirical article.](http://www.thenation.com/doc/20070430/lam_2) > [@](#): > > Before the news identified the killer as Cho Seung-hui, a 23-year-old English major from South Korea, all ethnic backgrounds were up for grabs. A friend from a small college town on the East Coast, who is Chinese, called to say: “Please, please let it be some other Asian. We’ll be in deep if it’s Chinese.” > > In a popular Vietnamese chatroom, Vietnamese college students were writing to each other to speculate. One said, “I have a bad feeling. It might be Mi’t (Vietnamese slang for Vietnamese).” Others wrote in advising each other on what to do. > > The blogosphere buzzed with speculation on the identity of the killer. The waiting game was as tense as waiting to find out who the next American Idol might be. On another blog, [debbieschlussel.com](http://debbieschlussel.com), Schlussel speculated that the shooter could be a Muslim Pakistani. “Why am I speculating that the ‘Asian’ gunman is a Pakistani Muslim? Because law enforcement and the media strangely won’t tell us more specifically who the gunman is.” > > A Muslim Pakistani friend, an engineer who refused to have his name mentioned, emailed me to say, “If he’s a Paki and Muslim, we might all just pack up and go home. I’m praying that he is some other Asian.” > > Let it be some other Asian! This was the prayer among so many Asian-American communities. And not just Asians. > > “Every time there’s an incident like this, every ethnic group is on pins and needles,” said Khalil Abdullah, an African-American colleague. An Anglo shooter may be an individual, a loner, but God forbid a person of color goes on a shooting rampage. His whole tribe would be implicated. “I still recall my aunts when President Kennedy was assassinated. They were praying that it wasn’t a Negro.” Many ethnic communities do not feel that they belong to the core of the American fabric, Abdullah added. “The action of an individual can cancel out the good image of an entire group.” ---
**Author:** ![enigm4tic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7ba0ec/32.png) [@enigm4tic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enigm4tic)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 5:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asians-new-fad-fear/400535/31 "2007-04-18T05:56:15Z")
[QUOTE=mstay] It’s true though, right? Other school shooters had shotguns and hunting rifles and even pipe bombs but they’re dwarfed in terms of body count by an Asian with a pistol. [/QUOTE] Dude… have you ever played counterstrike? :smack: ---
**Author:** ![JonScribe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3be4f8/32.png) [@JonScribe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JonScribe)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 6:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asians-new-fad-fear/400535/32 "2007-04-18T06:09:33Z")
[QUOTE=Scissorjack] American Schools Outsource Shooting Sprees To Asia: Campus Cites Greater Productivity, Lower Costs. [/QUOTE] Not funny, in my opinion. Too soon. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asians-new-fad-fear/400535/33 "2007-04-18T06:15:54Z")
[QUOTE=JonScribe] Not funny, in my opinion. Too soon. [/QUOTE] Raises an interesting debate topic: Does our readiness to wade into these depths testify to our mental health, or the reverse? OTOH, let’s **not** debate that. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asians-new-fad-fear/400535/34 "2007-04-18T06:31:06Z")
[QUOTE=JonScribe] Not funny, in my opinion. Too soon. [/QUOTE] Yeah, he should have waited five more minutes. :rolleyes: Stranger ---
**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asians-new-fad-fear/400535/35 "2007-04-18T06:33:10Z")
[QUOTE=Ferret Herder] The quoted article doesn’t mention any incidents of racist retaliation at all, only fears by Koreans that it **may** occur. [/QUOTE] I was reading the Korean news websites and they highlighted two things that I’ve barely seen mentioned in American articles: 1) the fact that the student was a 1.5-generation Korean American and how that supposedly contributed to his insanity, and 2) fear that Korean American students will suffer some kind of knee-jerk reaction on the part of mainstream America. I can’t tell you how offended I am at 1) (honestly, WTF. I hate how Koreans assume Korean Americans are all tortured and conflicted souls; I’m doing just fine here, thankyouverymuch). As for 2), I feel like Koreans are overreacting. Most of the articles I’ve read have focused on the fact that he was just plain weird (his wacky creative writing, for example) rather than anything about his ethnicity. Plus it’s not like he targeted any kind of specific group (I think there was a Korean among those shot as well). I doubt the Korean American community will suffer any kind of serious backlash. ---
**Author:** ![wolf\_meister](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolf_meister/32/15202_2.png) [@wolf\_meister](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolf_meister)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 6:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asians-new-fad-fear/400535/36 "2007-04-18T06:33:59Z")
What no mention of **Native Americans**? Seems a bit discriminatory to me. Once again the Euro-Judeo-Sino-African mentality is rearing its ugly head in its attempt to keep the Native American from taking a rightful place in our society. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asians-new-fad-fear/400535/37 "2007-04-18T06:40:03Z")
[QUOTE=wolf\_meister] What no mention of **Native Americans**? Seems a bit discriminatory to me. Once again the Euro-Judeo-Sino-African mentality is rearing its ugly head in its attempt to keep the Native American from taking a rightful place in our society. [/QUOTE] :rolleyes: Dude, be honest. What have you guys brought to the table since [Leonard Peltier?](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_Peltier) And that doesn’t even **count!** I mean, it was all **political** and stuff! And there was a lameass body count of two! And he’s probably not guilty anway! Indians once raised torture of captives to a high art form. It’s sad to see how far you’ve fallen. Sorry, but somebody had to say it. ---
**Author:** ![Rigamarole](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/77aa72/32.png) [@Rigamarole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rigamarole)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asians-new-fad-fear/400535/38 "2007-04-18T06:54:12Z")
Funny. When the shooting was first getting on the news and information about the shooter had not yet been released, one of my co-workers commented, “I bet you anything it was a white kid.” I love how racist comments like that are perfectly fine, as long as they are about white people. I’m totally going to nail him for this. ---
**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asians-new-fad-fear/400535/39 "2007-04-18T07:05:47Z")
[QUOTE=mstay] It’s true though, right? Other school shooters had shotguns and hunting rifles and even pipe bombs but they’re dwarfed in terms of body count by an Asian with a pistol. [/QUOTE] Calls For More Violent Video Games, Gloomy Music, Amidst Claims Disaffected US Teens Lack Shooting Spree Skills, Motivation. ---
**Author:** ![Lil\_Slugger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Lil\_Slugger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lil_Slugger)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 7:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asians-new-fad-fear/400535/40 "2007-04-18T07:09:18Z")
I remember a few years ago some black comedian made up a faux quiz a few years ago about black vs. white murderers. Something along the lines of, if some dude put a cap in his old lady’s ass when he found her dancing with some other dude at a club, he’s Black. If he’s stored the organs of his victims in his refrigerator and brings the head out occasionally to talk to it or have sex with it, he’s White. Hmmm . . . Don’t think it was Chris Rock who said this, but it’s the kind of thing he might say, I think. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asians-new-fad-fear/400535.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asians-new-fad-fear/400535.md?page=3)