# Asians new fad fear

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asians-new-fad-fear/400535>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [April 17, 2007, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asians-new-fad-fear/400535 "2007-04-17T23:05:22Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 19\
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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asians-new-fad-fear/400535/61 "2007-04-18T18:08:03Z")

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[QUOTE=HazelNutCoffee]  
The fact that the killer was a Korean is an unfortunate fact, and it’s hard to take ethnicity out of the equation because ethnicity is always part of a person’s identity, whether they like it or not - but why is the Korean American community acting so guilty over this? What did we have to do with the fact that he was a psychotic bastard?  
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Don’t you get it, man? It’s the **kimchi,** man, the kimchi! That shit rots your brain. Too much turns you fuckin’ psycho. How else do you explain Kim Jong Il? Or dog stew? Or fuckin’ **Hyundais?!** Explain the Hyundais to me!!! :mad:

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**Author:** ![TonyF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de053/32.png) [@TonyF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TonyF)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asians-new-fad-fear/400535/62 "2007-04-18T18:24:28Z")

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[QUOTE=HazelNutCoffee]  
… but why is the Korean American community acting so guilty over this?  
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My guess? Face.

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 6:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asians-new-fad-fear/400535/63 "2007-04-18T18:32:29Z")

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[QUOTE=HazelNutCoffee]  
\<snip\>Also, the Korean ambassador to the US is going on a 32-day fasting to atone for the deaths caused by the killer. I don’t think this is the appropriate response.\<snip\>  
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I don’t know about that; it’s a gesture, like all the things we do regarding mourning. Saying how sorry you are to people doesn’t do much, but we still do it (and it’s still expected). I don’t think it says that he feel responsible, but that he shares the grief.

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**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asians-new-fad-fear/400535/64 "2007-04-18T18:54:57Z")

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[QUOTE=mstay]  
More than you know. But Asians aren’t known to be good at CS, by and far. Oh sure, they have their pro teams, but the best teams in the world come from Europe. Now if we’re gonna talk about StarCraft…  
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kekekekeke gg no re nubkeekekeke… NOOOOO aas.dfasf the FLASHBACKS!!! asdflkjkekekekeke… _bashes head on keyboard_

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**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asians-new-fad-fear/400535/65 "2007-04-18T19:03:58Z")

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[QUOTE=featherlou]  
I don’t know about that; it’s a gesture, like all the things we do regarding mourning. Saying how sorry you are to people doesn’t do much, but we still do it (and it’s still expected). I don’t think it says that he feel responsible, but that he shares the grief.  
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I still think fasting for 32 days is an over-reaction. And it’s such an overtly Korean response to the whole thing as well. It’s what Korean politicians do when they get caught doing something bad and they want to “save face.” (I admit this may have different connotations for me, as a Korean American, than it might for Americans in general.)

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 7:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asians-new-fad-fear/400535/66 "2007-04-18T19:10:07Z")

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[QUOTE=HazelNutCoffee]  
I still think fasting for 32 days is an over-reaction. And it’s such an overtly Korean response to the whole thing as well. It’s what Korean politicians do when they get caught doing something bad and they want to “save face.” (I admit this may have different connotations for me, as a Korean American, than it might for Americans in general.)  
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Ah, I see. I agree that there is no “face” for Korean Americans to save; crazy doesn’t respect racial boundaries. I like to think that only the stupidest of the mis-informed would somehow misinterpret this shooting as “All Koreans like to kill people.”

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**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asians-new-fad-fear/400535/67 "2007-04-18T21:03:49Z")

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[QUOTE=Celyn]  
I think, if anything, it does testify to mental health: a resistance to being dragged into “groupthink”. I think this is a _perfectly_ reasonable thread. We do not in any way lack sympathy for the victims or their families and friends, and we are horrified, yes, but we are allowed to worry about, and to try to make fun of, this ghastly tendency that people have to look for “blame groups”, and I think that is what we are doing here. Because sometimes trying to make some attitudes become risble and to be resisted by all sensible people is, well, a sort of weapon in defence of sanity.  
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Extremely well put. I gotta admit, my first reaction to the the thread title was something like:

Asian New Fad Fear Follows Hello Kitty Killings

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**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asians-new-fad-fear/400535/68 "2007-04-18T21:42:55Z")

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I have a hard time feeling sorry for the Koreans here, though. If they’re cornered by hate criminals, they always have that little trick to fall back on . . .  
SPANKY HAMM: Oh . . . I forgot Asianses could do that!

😉

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**Author:** ![HazelNutCoffee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ac91a4/32.png) [@HazelNutCoffee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HazelNutCoffee)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asians-new-fad-fear/400535/69 "2007-04-18T21:48:20Z")

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[QUOTE=BrainGlutton]  
Don’t you get it, man? It’s the **kimchi,** man, the kimchi! That shit rots your brain. Too much turns you fuckin’ psycho. How else do you explain Kim Jong Il? Or dog stew? Or fuckin’ **Hyundais?!** Explain the Hyundais to me!!! :mad:  
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Everytime you drive a Hyundai, God kills a Hello Kitty, doncha know.

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**Author:** ![Scissorjack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c67d28/32.png) [@Scissorjack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scissorjack)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asians-new-fad-fear/400535/70 "2007-04-18T22:43:47Z")

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[QUOTE=HazelNutCoffee]  
Everytime you drive a Hyundai, God kills a Hello Kitty, doncha know.  
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Better than a KIA…

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asians-new-fad-fear/400535/71 "2007-04-18T22:52:16Z")

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As word keeps coming out about the shooter’s psychological problems and how he was declared a danger to himself, I’m wondering about the long-term effects this will have on the public’s view of people with mental issues.

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**Author:** ![Ghanima](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9e8a1a/32.png) [@Ghanima](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ghanima)\
**Post date:** [April 18, 2007, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asians-new-fad-fear/400535/72 "2007-04-18T23:16:17Z")

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[QUOTE=BrainGlutton]  
Don’t you get it, man? It’s the **kimchi,** man, the kimchi! That shit rots your brain. Too much turns you fuckin’ psycho. How else do you explain Kim Jong Il? Or dog stew? Or fuckin’ **Hyundais?!** Explain the Hyundais to me!!! :mad:  
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My Hyundai gets 30 mpg. Plus it has never broken down, with the exception of a sensor going bad after I drove my car through a creek about 3 feet deep. I love that POS.

I was thinking this morning how sad it is that people are going to latch on to the “Korean” thing. Why can’t we recognize that a person did this, an individual. Who cares if he was white, black or purple, or gay or straight, or male or female, or a virgin or not? The fact is this person killed many other people in cold blood without any apparent motive. His race has absolutely nothing to do with it and anyone who thinks that is true is a certified moron. The Korean Ambassador is an honorary moron for perpetuating the myth that this has anything at all to do with race.

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**Author:** ![newcrasher](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b3f665/32.png) [@newcrasher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/newcrasher)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asians-new-fad-fear/400535/73 "2007-04-19T02:26:58Z")

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(dropping in without reading thread)

Since this act of terror was brought to us by a South Korean national, will we keep with our strategy, and attack Norway?

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asians-new-fad-fear/400535/74 "2007-04-19T05:29:40Z")

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[QUOTE=newcrasher]  
(dropping in without reading thread)

Since this act of terror was brought to us by a South Korean national, will we keep with our strategy, and attack Norway?  
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Hey, Canada’s got dibs on Norway! They’re making eyes at our Arctic Islands. Or maybe that was Denmark - I’ll be right back. Yeah, it’s Denmark that we have to go to war with. You guys can have Norway.

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**Author:** ![devilsknew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/4da419/32.png) [@devilsknew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/devilsknew)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asians-new-fad-fear/400535/75 "2007-04-19T05:51:53Z")

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One good thing from all this shit… Margaret Cho has a new act.

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**Author:** ![Wee\_Bairn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/90db22/32.png) [@Wee\_Bairn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wee_Bairn)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asians-new-fad-fear/400535/76 "2007-04-19T13:29:46Z")

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I doubt anyone stupid enough to take action against Koreans isn’t bright enough to distinguish between Japanese, Chinese, or Korean, so I’m sure at some point we’ll get a Chinese person attacked with the perp shouting about Korea and whatnot.

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**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 2:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asians-new-fad-fear/400535/77 "2007-04-19T14:08:33Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Maybe we need some kind of program to encourage Asian-American students – well, all overly committed, workaholic students, let’s not be racist – to spend their freshman year pledging frats, getting laid, getting stoned and binge drinking.

Thinking back to my college years, I was way ahead of the curve on this inititive. I am a true visionary, worthy of millions of grant dollars to continue my program. Proof: None of the Asian students I gave a sterling example of debauchery too has gone on a murderous rampage.

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**Author:** ![Burrido](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/3be4f8/32.png) [@Burrido](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Burrido)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asians-new-fad-fear/400535/78 "2007-04-19T14:38:30Z")

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[QUOTE=HazelNutCoffee]  
but why is the Korean American community acting so guilty over this?  
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I met my with asian student group and that’s a common feeling right now. So it’s not just among Koreans.

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**Author:** ![dropzone](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dropzone/32/7515_2.png) [@dropzone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dropzone)\
**Post date:** [April 19, 2007, 3:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asians-new-fad-fear/400535/79 "2007-04-19T15:33:35Z")

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Initial reports identified the shooter as Chinese so I was glad that was corrected before I started torturing the Chinese guy I had tied up in my basement. I had to let him go but finding a Korean to replace him shouldn’t be too hard.

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