# Asimovian, that's messed up.

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asimovian-thats-messed-up/720610>\
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**Created:** [May 22, 2015, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asimovian-thats-messed-up/720610 "2015-05-22T19:49:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asimovian-thats-messed-up/720610/1 "2015-05-22T19:49:04Z")

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Seriously, why did you move my thread to the pit? Did I come across to you as being a deliberate asshole or something?

If it offends your sensibilities so much, just close it.

[Link](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=757527)

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 7:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asimovian-thats-messed-up/720610/2 "2015-05-22T19:52:01Z")

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Funny, I was just getting ready to thank him for making that move.

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asimovian-thats-messed-up/720610/3 "2015-05-22T20:16:49Z")

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> [@Shakes](#):
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> Did I come across to you as being a deliberate asshole or something?

If you really want an answer to this question, you should ask it in the Pit thread. I’m sure that quite a few people would be willing to give you an answer.

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**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 8:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asimovian-thats-messed-up/720610/4 "2015-05-22T20:18:10Z")

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Im surprised he didn’t send it to Pyongyang.

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**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 8:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asimovian-thats-messed-up/720610/5 "2015-05-22T20:23:47Z")

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I don’t think it was your OP per se’, that got it moved to the Pit. It was your defensiveness to the reaction your OP received. If you had accepted the responses as their opinion, then I highly doubt it would have been moved.

Your reaction to the responses was openly inviting a pitting, **Asimovian** just obliged them by moving the whole thread there.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asimovian-thats-messed-up/720610/6 "2015-05-22T20:24:32Z")

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That move was totally messed up.  
He forgot to close the poll-they’re not allowed in The BBQ Pit.

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**Author:** ![Asimovian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asimovian/32/172_2.png) [@Asimovian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asimovian)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asimovian-thats-messed-up/720610/7 "2015-05-22T20:25:36Z")

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The decision was not related at all to me being offended. I relocated it to the Pit because I felt there was no hope of a civil discussion taking place. Even posters who were making a legitimate effort to respond to the question as asked in the OP were struggling with it, and the thread quickly became about the poster rather than the question.

I am willing to be convinced otherwise, but my feeling right now is that the move made sense given the thread’s inertia.

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**Author:** ![Jonathan\_Chance](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jonathan_chance/32/701_2.png) [@Jonathan\_Chance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jonathan_Chance)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asimovian-thats-messed-up/720610/8 "2015-05-22T20:29:10Z")

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I concur. That thread was an embryonic Pit thread and could likely grow into a full blown one in very little time. Moving it was the right thing to do.

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asimovian-thats-messed-up/720610/9 "2015-05-22T20:29:23Z")

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Good move, imo.

ETA: Sorry, almost posted my Pit response in here. Glad I caught it! Forgive the edit, please.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 8:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asimovian-thats-messed-up/720610/10 "2015-05-22T20:30:17Z")

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This is ATMB.

EDIT, Knorf, EDIT!!!

Edit: there you go! 😃

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**Author:** ![Knorf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/58956e/32.png) [@Knorf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knorf)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asimovian-thats-messed-up/720610/11 "2015-05-22T20:32:14Z")

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It’s been a long day.

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asimovian-thats-messed-up/720610/12 "2015-05-22T20:32:17Z")

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> [@Asimovian](#):
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> The decision was not related at all to me being offended. I relocated it to the Pit because I felt there was no hope of a civil discussion taking place. Even posters who were making a legitimate effort to respond to the question as asked in the OP were struggling with it, and the thread quickly became about the poster rather than the question.
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> I am willing to be convinced otherwise, but my feeling right now is that the move made sense given the thread’s inertia.

And most of the time when posters can’t stay on topic, the moderator just closes the thread.

You had a few thread shitters in that thread and you basically rewarded them by moving my thread to the pit.

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**Author:** ![Calatin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/439d5e/32.png) [@Calatin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Calatin)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asimovian-thats-messed-up/720610/13 "2015-05-22T20:53:11Z")

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> [@Shakes](#):
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> And most of the time when posters can’t stay on topic, the moderator just closes the thread.
> 
> You had a few thread shitters in that thread and you basically rewarded them by moving my thread to the pit.

It’d be one thing if posters had to really hijack the thread to make it pit-worthy, but this was pit-adjacent, at best.

You essentially proposed a situation that could easily be interpreted as having sex without the other party’s consent (and yes, I know that in this situation, she’d consented for the majority of the interaction).

That’s prime pit material if I ever saw it.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asimovian-thats-messed-up/720610/14 "2015-05-22T22:46:51Z")

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> [@Calatin](#):
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> You essentially proposed a situation that could easily be interpreted as having sex without the other party’s consent

“Interpreted as”? There’s no other possible interpretation.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asimovian-thats-messed-up/720610/15 "2015-05-22T23:04:54Z")

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> [@Shakes](#):
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> And most of the time when posters can’t stay on topic, the moderator just closes the thread.
> 
> You had a few thread shitters in that thread and you basically rewarded them by moving my thread to the pit.

It was a topic that started out with a strong potential for going bad. And it did.

But people weren’t going off topic. They were addressing the topic just not in the way you apparently wished it to be addressed. From your point of view, that may be unfortunate but you have to accept that the OP doesn’t have control of where the discussion of a topic will go.

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**Author:** ![Penfeather](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/penfeather/32/384_2.png) [@Penfeather](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Penfeather)\
**Post date:** [May 22, 2015, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asimovian-thats-messed-up/720610/16 "2015-05-22T23:15:20Z")

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Nope, **Asimovian** made the right call.

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2015, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asimovian-thats-messed-up/720610/17 "2015-05-23T00:00:20Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> It was a topic that started out with a strong potential for going bad. And it did.
> 
> But people weren’t going off topic. They were addressing the topic just not in the way you apparently wished it to be addressed. From your point of view, that may be unfortunate but you have to accept that the OP doesn’t have control of where the discussion of a topic will go.

Well then I apologize. I offended a lot of people, and that was never my intent.

I’ll take this incident as a learning experience and try to be more thoughtful of my posts in the future. I sincerely feel bad about this.

Again, sorry guys.

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2015, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asimovian-thats-messed-up/720610/18 "2015-05-23T00:08:04Z")

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For those interested, I’ve made a formal apology [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18384973&postcount=17).

Sorry for my offensive OP, and my subsequent defensiveness afterwords. I’ll make it a point to do better in the future.

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**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2015, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asimovian-thats-messed-up/720610/19 "2015-05-23T00:10:30Z")

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> [@Shakes](#):
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> For those interested, I’ve made a formal apology [here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18384973&postcount=17).
> 
> Sorry for my offensive OP, and my subsequent defensiveness afterwords. I’ll make it a point to do better in the future.

Apology appreciated, but are you sure this is where you meant to post that link?

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2015, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asimovian-thats-messed-up/720610/20 "2015-05-23T00:14:36Z")

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> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#):
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> Apology appreciated, but are you sure this is where you meant to post that link?

Oops, that post was meant for the Pit. I fixed it now.

Thanks.
