# Ask me why I hate people?? This... (trophy hunting) **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [July 30, 2018, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-me-why-i-hate-people-this-trophy-hunting/818807 "2018-07-30T12:16:29Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 17\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![DummyGladHands](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/49beb7/32.png) [@DummyGladHands](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DummyGladHands)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2018, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-me-why-i-hate-people-this-trophy-hunting/818807/1 "2018-07-30T12:16:29Z")
[http://https://news.mongabay.com/2018/07/another-cecil-secrecy-surrounds-june-trophy-lion-hunt/](http://https://news.mongabay.com/2018/07/another-cecil-secrecy-surrounds-june-trophy-lion-hunt/) I want to hunt this fuck down. ---
**Author:** ![DummyGladHands](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/49beb7/32.png) [@DummyGladHands](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DummyGladHands)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2018, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-me-why-i-hate-people-this-trophy-hunting/818807/2 "2018-07-30T12:19:46Z")
Damn, I can’t make the link work!!! Now I have to stop hating to get someone to help. Lion-Skye, lured from preserve, killed by trophy hunter named Whitworth, owner of Whitworth Tools. Little help?? ---
**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2018, 12:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-me-why-i-hate-people-this-trophy-hunting/818807/3 "2018-07-30T12:28:39Z")
[Fixed link.](https://news.mongabay.com/2018/07/another-cecil-secrecy-surrounds-june-trophy-lion-hunt/) ---
**Author:** ![Delicious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@Delicious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Delicious)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2018, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-me-why-i-hate-people-this-trophy-hunting/818807/4 "2018-07-30T12:33:47Z")
$80,000 is a lot of money though, more than a lion is worth to the locals i bet. ---
**Author:** ![Jasmine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jasmine/32/2964_2.png) [@Jasmine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jasmine)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2018, 12:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-me-why-i-hate-people-this-trophy-hunting/818807/5 "2018-07-30T12:39:56Z")
> [@Nava](#): > > [Fixed link.](https://news.mongabay.com/2018/07/another-cecil-secrecy-surrounds-june-trophy-lion-hunt/) Still doesn’t work for me. ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2018, 12:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-me-why-i-hate-people-this-trophy-hunting/818807/6 "2018-07-30T12:44:47Z")
> [@Delicious](#): > > $80,000 is a lot of money though, more than a lion is worth to the locals i bet. I suspect the locals reaping the most benefit are the operators of the tour group, as opposed to the locals that you imply might otherwise be impoverished. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2018, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-me-why-i-hate-people-this-trophy-hunting/818807/7 "2018-07-30T13:00:55Z")
The link worked for me. > [@](#): > > A U.S. trophy hunter baited and killed a male lion on June 7th in Umbabat Private Nature Reserve, a part of Greater Kruger National Park, South Africa. Suspicions are that the animal shot was Skye, a beloved lion in the region. > > U.S. citizen Jared Whitworth allegedly paid nearly $80,000 for the hunt. Authorities say the animal killed wasn’t Skye, but have offered no proof. Skye hasn’t been seen since the day Whitworth made his kill, and one of the lion’s cubs was found dead, which often happens when other males take over a pride. > > If the killed lion was Skye, this would be a breach of South African regulations, because the lion was too young to be legally hunted. Authorities also say that if it is confirmed that the lion was baited, that could violate South African laws. I don’t know how much has been established as factual in all this. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Delicious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@Delicious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Delicious)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2018, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-me-why-i-hate-people-this-trophy-hunting/818807/8 "2018-07-30T13:02:48Z")
> [@Ravenman](#): > > I suspect the locals reaping the most benefit are the operators of the tour group, as opposed to the locals that you imply might otherwise be impoverished. True but i assume they get some benefits from the deal…less lions mauling them for one ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2018, 1:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-me-why-i-hate-people-this-trophy-hunting/818807/9 "2018-07-30T13:05:41Z")
> [@Delicious](#): > > True but i assume they get some benefits from the deal…less lions mauling them for one Is lion mauling actually a problem in South Africa? How often dies it occur? Are you making a joke or is this actually one of the stupidest posts in the history of the SDMB? ---
**Author:** ![Delicious](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/dbc845/32.png) [@Delicious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Delicious)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2018, 1:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-me-why-i-hate-people-this-trophy-hunting/818807/10 "2018-07-30T13:42:56Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > Is lion mauling actually a problem in South Africa? How often dies it occur? Are you making a joke or is this actually one of the stupidest posts in the history of the SDMB? Can’t it be both? ---
**Author:** ![Ravenman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ravenman/32/2929_2.png) [@Ravenman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ravenman)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2018, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-me-why-i-hate-people-this-trophy-hunting/818807/11 "2018-07-30T13:43:06Z")
Well… he could have said that the “natives” got some benefits, but he charitably called them “locals.” ---
**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2018, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-me-why-i-hate-people-this-trophy-hunting/818807/12 "2018-07-30T13:53:18Z")
I’m a hunter; more for the largest example I can find more than for the meat so you can call me a “trophy hunter”. That being said, something in all this strikes me as wrong. This is a wild animal with a population that thrives and declines all too regular and sometimes gets adopted (in a manner of speaking) by one community or another. I look at it as the albino deer or massive buck some township or another has made part of its community ---- it may be legal but it just isn’t quite right. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2018, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-me-why-i-hate-people-this-trophy-hunting/818807/13 "2018-07-30T15:28:06Z")
> [@hajario](#): > > Is lion mauling actually a problem in South Africa? How often dies it occur? Are you making a joke or is this actually one of the stupidest posts in the history of the SDMB? I imagine there are few people who can maul a lion. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2018, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-me-why-i-hate-people-this-trophy-hunting/818807/14 "2018-07-30T16:51:04Z")
> [@DummyGladHands](#): > > [http://https://news.mongabay.com/2018/07/another-cecil-secrecy-surrounds-june-trophy-lion-hunt/](http://https://news.mongabay.com/2018/07/another-cecil-secrecy-surrounds-june-trophy-lion-hunt/) > I want to hunt this fuck down. What are we mad about? That he killed an animal? That he killed a lion? That he killed a _particular_ lion? That he killed an animal by baiting it and then shooting from a safe location (as opposed to stalking it on foot and then clubbing it over the head in a fair fight)? That he killed an animal for sport instead of for food? That he killed a young lion? That he violated laws regarding the allowable age for a lion to be taken? That he violated laws regarding baiting of game animals? …_\_? ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2018, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-me-why-i-hate-people-this-trophy-hunting/818807/15 "2018-07-30T16:53:53Z")
That this was not his full time job, making him an amateur and not a master baiter? ---
**Author:** ![yendis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/y/ed8c4c/32.png) [@yendis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yendis)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2018, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-me-why-i-hate-people-this-trophy-hunting/818807/16 "2018-07-31T11:54:51Z")
> [@Delicious](#): > > True but i assume they get some benefits from the deal…less lions mauling them for one > [@hajario](#): > > Is lion mauling actually a problem in South Africa? How often dies it occur? Are you making a joke or is this actually one of the stupidest posts in the history of the SDMB? There are no wild lions wondering around South Africa so no, maulings are not a problem. South Africa is not some untamed wilderness, every single large game animal is contained by fences. Now poachers who breach the fences do get eaten on a regular basis but that’s them going to the lions not the other way around. The only locals benefiting are either the lions legal owners, or the bastards who arranged an illegal hunt. Either way it means that rich people got a little richer. ---
**Author:** ![BrotherCadfael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@BrotherCadfael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrotherCadfael)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2018, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-me-why-i-hate-people-this-trophy-hunting/818807/17 "2018-07-31T12:37:16Z")
> [@DummyGladHands](#): > > [http://https](http://https)://news.mongabay.com/2018/07/another-cecil-secrecy-surrounds-june-trophy-lion-hunt/ > I want to hunt this fuck down. So, you want his head for a trophy?