[QUOTE=samclem]
A delusional person would not think that his statements were lies. Perhaps you perceived them as such, but he might not.
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Is he delusional about everything? Because he’s made misstatements about multiple topics, ranging from whether he’d answered a question to what my motives for asking were to whether Randi had said that water flowed underground. His misstatements always serve to paint him in a good light and anyone who disagrees with him in a bad light.
It’s possible that he has a massive delusion that causes him to unconsciously make misstatements on a variety of topics if he senses that the truth on those topics ultimately will undermine his delusion. But that’s just crazy.
[QUOTE=Larry Borgia]
That being said Peter’s obsession with Randi–25 years running IIRC–is pretty out there.
[/QUOTE] 25 years? I had no clue about that. I knew about the last three years or so. If forced to hazard a guess, I would have guessed that Peter wasn’t even old enough to have had an obsession for 25 years.
[QUOTE=Priceguy] 25 years? I had no clue about that. I knew about the last three years or so. If forced to hazard a guess, I would have guessed that Peter wasn’t even old enough to have had an obsession for 25 years.
Wow. Whole new dimensions of crazy.
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Yikes. I’d better emphasize that that’s based on my recollection of an older thread. NB the first I in IIRC. I’m not swearing to that.
Also while I’m here laet me clarify that while Randi can rub me the wrong way, I do appreciate his efforts in the war against BS.
You’re a festering wart for not giving us a wider range of choices in the first question.
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[gangster]Why, you dirty boid![/gangster]
Hard to find a good insulting definition for having an ax to grind. I do remember that when Ben Franklin coined that phrase, it was to describe the profit the guy with the ax had by fooling Ben into sharpen his ax without paying.
This guy IMHO is now, regardless if he is sincere, also sincerely profiting from the discussion.
I vote troll. He was spoiling for a fight in his OP, and then sucessfully baited other posters into getting warned. So, all in all, mission accomplished for him.
Also think he’s a shitforbrains fuckhead.
And I hope the ruse to draw traffic to the website is grounds for banning.
[QUOTE=elucidator]
Yeah, Randi sucks. So do you. Knock it off, be one less.
Better?
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One less of what?
Even in the original thread, I made the point that Randi was sucking a little in some quotes, but regarding the other thread, Randi was not wrong at all.
Saying that just that “he suks” is like saying “all politicians lie”. Says something, but not much.
[QUOTE=Larry Borgia]
…That being said Peter’s obsession with Randi–25 years running IIRC–is pretty out there. Randi is just not that important in the greater scheme of things. I don’t think Peter’s a liar or a troll or even stupid, I just think he’s got a bizarre obsession which he probably doesn’t understand himself.
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When you define yourself solely by what your not, you are forever tied to what you reject. I’d consider this Hell on Earth defined by a cycle you can’t break out of unless you want to lose your identity. I don’t see any solution to Peter’s way of thinking as long as he lives to reject James Randi.
[QUOTE=GIGObuster]
Hard to find a good insulting definition for having an ax to grind. I do remember that when Ben Franklin coined that phrase, it was to describe the profit the guy with the ax had by fooling Ben into sharpen his ax without paying.
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Franklin is misattributed in the coining of that phrase. He didn’t do it. Cites available upon request.
Have folks seen the episode of Da Ali G show in which Ali confronts a Creationist? The Creationist says he’ll give ten thousand bucks (or something) to anyone who can prove that he’s descended from a monkey. Ali G says, “Does you like bananas?” The creationist says yes, looking suspicious, and Ali holds out his hand for the money.
[QUOTE=GIGObuster]
Even though it seems **elucidator ** is for some reason putting me down, I still like the bloke.
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Actually, I think he was doing as you asked and restating his original post so that Peter Morris could understand it.
[QUOTE=waterj2]
Actually, I think he was doing as you asked and restating his original post so that Peter Morris could understand it.
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Whooooooooshed too.
And for all new posters coming to this roast: please note that the 4 rules in this thread are parodies of the original “rules” in Peter Morris OP in GD.
Fell free to ignore them, you can choose Jerk, Ax grinder, Deluded, etc in your replies describing Peter.
[QUOTE=Priceguy]
He’s obviously not telling the actual truth, but I doubt he’s conscious of it, so I wouldn’t call him a liar. I believe he really believes what he’s saying. I don’t know whence his pathological hatred of Randi flows, but powerful and lasting it is.
The saddest part was this: In response to the question “Do you legitimately believe that he will accept your application?”, he answered
[QUOTE=Peter Morris]
That’s up to him. If he doesn’t, then everyone will know that he issues challenges, thenb backs out when people accept. Bang goes his credfibility.
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Imagine the kind of person who actually believes this. He actually believes that Randi refusing one application from one random guy who can’t get a single person to agree with his interpretation of a not very important statement will cause Randi’s credibility to go “bang”. Imagine what it’s like inside his head.
I’m sorry, I can’t see anything funny in this. Sorry to bring down the thread.
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I agree.
Peter hates Randi with the heat of a thousand suns.
He has posted endlessly on the Randi forums, repeating the same flawed argument every time.
He sets up a website just to prove Randi wrong about anything.
When he posts here, he sets silly guidelines so he doesn’t have to listen to any opposing point of view.
If you don’t agree with him, you are a ‘Randi supporter’.
[QUOTE=glee]
If you don’t agree with him, you are a ‘Randi supporter’.
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This part is downright scary. He’s convinced himself that there is some monolithic mass of unthinking Randi fans who adore and admire Randi beyond all reason. It doesn’t matter that several of his opponents here have said that they outright dislike Randi; they’re still Randi fans. After all, why else would they oppose Peter, who is obviously correct about everything?
[QUOTE=GIGObuster]
A Liar or a Troll?
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Asked and answered. Several times. You don’t agree with the answer. That’s your right. I’m not going to argue.