# Ask the Airline Pilot who just switched from Passengers to Cargo

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-airline-pilot-who-just-switched-from-passengers-to-cargo/312466>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [July 14, 2005, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-airline-pilot-who-just-switched-from-passengers-to-cargo/312466 "2005-07-14T03:50:53Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 19\
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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-airline-pilot-who-just-switched-from-passengers-to-cargo/312466/61 "2014-03-18T16:10:27Z")

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All of you, knock it off.

**Chiroptera** , your original response was rude and unnecessary – doubling down on it very much more so.

Everyone else – leave the modding to the mods.

**Robert Briggs** , thanks for responding to this thread. As you can see, we have all kinds of folks here, but many of them are actually quite friendly and pleasant. I hope you’ll consider sticking around the SDMB.

**twickster** , for the SDMB

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-airline-pilot-who-just-switched-from-passengers-to-cargo/312466/62 "2014-03-18T23:43:32Z")

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Too late. He’s already thanked me for my support by PM but said he won’t bother posting here any more.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [March 18, 2014, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-airline-pilot-who-just-switched-from-passengers-to-cargo/312466/63 "2014-03-18T23:48:52Z")

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> [@Princhester](#):
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> Too late. He’s already thanked me for my support by PM but said he won’t bother posting here any more.

That’s too bad. New, interesting posters are worth having.

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**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-airline-pilot-who-just-switched-from-passengers-to-cargo/312466/64 "2014-03-19T03:13:00Z")

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> [@Princhester](#):
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> Too late. He’s already thanked me for my support by PM but said he won’t bother posting here any more.

He bailed just because someone nitpicked his grammar? Heaven help him if he ever visits 4chan.

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**Author:** ![Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/46a35a/32.png) [@Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_T-Bonham.net)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-airline-pilot-who-just-switched-from-passengers-to-cargo/312466/65 "2014-03-19T04:04:40Z")

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> [@pilot141](#):
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> Of course, it means that I wake up at 0140 so I can be in place at 0240 for the scheduled pushback of 0340.
> 
> Yeah, the early morning stuff sucks.

Sucks even more if you live near the airport, and have to try to sleep thru the damn noise you people make!

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**Author:** ![Richard\_Pearse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/richard_pearse/32/13144_2.png) [@Richard\_Pearse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Pearse)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 8:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-airline-pilot-who-just-switched-from-passengers-to-cargo/312466/66 "2014-03-19T08:13:38Z")

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> [@t-bonham@scc.net](#):
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> Sucks even more if you live near the airport, and have to try to sleep thru the damn noise you people make!

The airport was built after you moved there of course?

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**Author:** ![Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/46a35a/32.png) [@Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_T-Bonham.net)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 11:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-airline-pilot-who-just-switched-from-passengers-to-cargo/312466/67 "2014-03-19T11:04:42Z")

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> [@Richard\_Pearse](#):
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> The airport was built after you moved there of course?

No, the FAA changed the flight path to go over my house, due to near-misses by airline pilots. (And because this new pattern allows airlines to have lanes land & take off closer together, making their hub operations more profitable.)

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**Author:** ![Richard\_Pearse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/richard_pearse/32/13144_2.png) [@Richard\_Pearse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Pearse)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 12:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-airline-pilot-who-just-switched-from-passengers-to-cargo/312466/68 "2014-03-19T12:19:40Z")

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On the bright side, somebody else’s house just got a bit quieter :).

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**Author:** ![Princhester](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/3e96dc/32.png) [@Princhester](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Princhester)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-airline-pilot-who-just-switched-from-passengers-to-cargo/312466/69 "2014-03-19T13:48:44Z")

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> [@buddha\_david](#):
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> He bailed just because someone nitpicked his grammar? Heaven help him if he ever visits 4chan.

You set acceptable standards for treatment of others by reference to how they would be treated on 4chan? Outstanding.

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**Author:** ![IvoryTowerDenizen](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ivorytowerdenizen/32/17937_2.png) [@IvoryTowerDenizen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/IvoryTowerDenizen)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 2:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-airline-pilot-who-just-switched-from-passengers-to-cargo/312466/70 "2014-03-19T14:19:52Z")

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> [@Princhester](#):
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> You set acceptable standards for treatment of others by reference to how they would be treated on 4chan? Outstanding.

“SDMB- slightly less annoying than 4chan!”

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**Author:** ![Kimballkid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b5a626/32.png) [@Kimballkid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimballkid)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-airline-pilot-who-just-switched-from-passengers-to-cargo/312466/71 "2014-03-19T19:15:46Z")

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I wish this thread wasn’t so old, I wanted ask **pilot141** if his cargo ever talked.

😃

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [March 19, 2014, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-airline-pilot-who-just-switched-from-passengers-to-cargo/312466/72 "2014-03-19T19:37:39Z")

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> [@Princhester](#):
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> Too late. He’s already thanked me for my support by PM but said he won’t bother posting here any more.

**Princhester** , please message **Robert Briggs** and see if you can persuade him to return here. It’s unfortunate that a few inconsiderate remarks have dissuaded him from posting again. Please assure him that some of us do find his comments interesting and that contributions from new members are welcome by those of us who don’t try to make ourselves feel superior to others.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2014, 5:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-airline-pilot-who-just-switched-from-passengers-to-cargo/312466/73 "2014-03-20T05:11:47Z")

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> [@hlanelee](#):
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> This may be along the same line, maybe not. I have been a bus driver and I have been a truck driver. My personal observation is:
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> “ **CARGO DOESN"T BITCH !!!** ”
> 
> Just my 0.02.

yah, that’s what the tower thinks when they let passenger planes in ahead of heavy lift. Believe me when I tell you there are many more customers involved in one airplane’s worth of freight then the equivalent passenger plane.

Pilot141, what the hell is FedEx still doing with 727’s? It has the same fuel burn as a 767. It’s like driving a tank in place of a taxi.

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2014, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-airline-pilot-who-just-switched-from-passengers-to-cargo/312466/74 "2014-03-20T05:15:39Z")

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Well F!@#^%. Why can’t the dope visually identify these threads so we know they’re old.

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**Author:** ![Spoons](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spoons/32/3141_2.png) [@Spoons](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spoons)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2014, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-airline-pilot-who-just-switched-from-passengers-to-cargo/312466/75 "2014-03-20T07:03:57Z")

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> [@cochrane](#):
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> **Princhester** , please message **Robert Briggs** and see if you can persuade him to return here. It’s unfortunate that a few inconsiderate remarks have dissuaded him from posting again. Please assure him that some of us do find his comments interesting and that contributions from new members are welcome by those of us who don’t try to make ourselves feel superior to others.

I agree with **cochrane**. I would be interested in hearing from someone with **Robert** ’s experience–I’m not a pilot, and will never be one (learned that when a pilot friend handed me the controls of his Cessna once), but I would be interested in his contributions to the aviation threads that occasionally come up. The SDMB is, after all, fighting ignorance, and **Robert** sounds like he could help with that.

**Princhester** , please let Robert know that a few of us would like him to return.

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2014, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-airline-pilot-who-just-switched-from-passengers-to-cargo/312466/76 "2014-03-20T10:33:46Z")

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I’ll add my voice to the chorus hoping **Robert Briggs** can be persuaded that the initial reply to his post was atypical of the SDMB as a whole.

ETA: would also be cool to hear back from **pilot141** to see how the rest of his career panned out, but I guess he no longer posts here.

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**Author:** ![Richard\_Pearse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/richard_pearse/32/13144_2.png) [@Richard\_Pearse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Pearse)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2014, 10:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-airline-pilot-who-just-switched-from-passengers-to-cargo/312466/77 "2014-03-20T10:50:13Z")

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> [@Dead\_Cat](#):
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> I’ll add my voice to the chorus hoping **Robert Briggs** can be persuaded that the initial reply to his post was atypical of the SDMB as a whole.
> 
> ETA: would also be cool to hear back from **pilot141** to see how the rest of his career panned out, but I guess he no longer posts here.

Last activity 01-25-2014, and he’s still a charter member, so still here but not particularly active.

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**Author:** ![Dead\_Cat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9fc29f/32.png) [@Dead\_Cat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dead_Cat)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2014, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-airline-pilot-who-just-switched-from-passengers-to-cargo/312466/78 "2014-03-20T10:58:09Z")

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Good to see you pilots, er, look out for each other :). Thanks.

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**Author:** ![Richard\_Pearse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/richard_pearse/32/13144_2.png) [@Richard\_Pearse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Richard_Pearse)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2014, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-airline-pilot-who-just-switched-from-passengers-to-cargo/312466/79 "2014-03-20T12:33:11Z")

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Yeah, no worries. Unlike Pilot141 I have the pleasure of alternating between flying passengers and cargo. Much prefer the cargo in general.

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