# Ask the comic guy.. **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [January 9, 2003, 1:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-comic-guy/147415 "2003-01-09T01:53:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![BrightEyes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/2acd7d/32.png) [@BrightEyes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrightEyes)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-comic-guy/147415/101 "2003-01-10T01:44:37Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Just Some Guy \* > \*\* > I think that’s everything, though I’m likely forgetting a couple. Night Nurse and Millie the Model, FWIW, are part of normal Marvel Continuity. 🙂 \*\* Interesting thing I read, patsy cline aka hellcat appeared in those comics… Besides Hellcat, does that comic being in continuity change NYTHING? ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-comic-guy/147415/102 "2003-01-10T01:48:36Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Fenris \* > \*_The worst series_ ever was the dreaded **Street Poet Ray** Put out in prestige format (square bound, heavy stock paper…like **Dark Knight** ), it managed to last 4 issues and was…beyond words. AND it was published by Marvel. In short, imagine if your kid brother at age 6 had no artistic skill whatsoever and drew disproportionate stick figures. THEN imagine a comic book page divided up into four panels. Each page is one rhyme of "street haiku’ which is not haiku, but sounds remarkably like the Hulk does Dr. Seuss with a vague social consience. Under each panel, put one verse of the rhyme and in each panel have your kid brother scrawl stick-figures. The rhymes always had some stupid, banal vaguely liberal message: “Hurting people really bad/see them do it, make me mad/do it to me I get sad/if we were all real nice, I be glad” (to make up an example). Peter David once did a column where he had Dumb Hulk do a Street Poet Ray verse that went something like: “Hulk like beans/beans real good/Yum, yum, yum/destruction of the tropical rain forest may cause climate change” > \*\* OK, did Marvel rip off “The Young Ones” People’s Poet bit, or was the Young One’s bit a ripoff of “Street Poet Ray”? ---
**Author:** ![LoN](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/cab0a1/32.png) [@LoN](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LoN)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-comic-guy/147415/103 "2003-01-10T02:06:55Z")
I just bought a reprint collection of THE BALLAD OF HALO JONES at Borders. Are there more 2000 AD collections planned? Do you think this will stay in print for a while? Is this the only Halo Jones adventure, or are there more? On [nationstates.net](http://nationstates.net), I named my country “The Free Republic of Ylum.” Who can tell me where I got that name? In WATCHMEN, was Ozymandis justified in his plot? Was Dr. Manhatten justifed in vaping Rorschach? ---
**Author:** ![BrightEyes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/2acd7d/32.png) [@BrightEyes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrightEyes)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-comic-guy/147415/104 "2003-01-10T02:21:14Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by LoN \* > \*\*I just bought a reprint collection of THE BALLAD OF HALO JONES at Borders. Are there more 2000 AD collections planned? Do you think this will stay in print for a while? Is this the only Halo Jones adventure, or are there more? > > On [nationstates.net](http://nationstates.net), I named my country “The Free Republic of Ylum.” Who can tell me where I got that name? > > In WATCHMEN, was Ozymandis justified in his plot? Was Dr. Manhatten justifed in vaping Rorschach? \*\* Not really per se, he did have a reason but not worthy of him killing a few million new yorkers in my opinion… Re: 2000 ad collections, they’re a fairly small company, so they’ll probably have only a couple thou printed, i dunno about other collections. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Peyote\_Coyote](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/5f8ce5/32.png) [@The\_Peyote\_Coyote](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Peyote_Coyote)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-comic-guy/147415/105 "2003-01-10T03:01:20Z")
LoN: The Free Republic of Ylum comes from Nexus, right? ---
**Author:** ![Max\_Carnage](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/max_carnage/32/12775_2.png) [@Max\_Carnage](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Max_Carnage)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-comic-guy/147415/106 "2003-01-10T03:13:41Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by BrightEyes \* > \*\*Interesting thing I read, patsy cline aka hellcat appeared in those comics… > Besides Hellcat, does that comic being in continuity change NYTHING? \*\* Patsy Cline was Hellcat? That’s Crazy! While Hellcat was out Walking After Midnight seeking to cause some evildoers nefarious plot to Fall To Pieces, Patsy Cline was safe in Nashville singing in the Grand Old Opry. 🙂 I believe you mean Patsy Walker. ---
**Author:** ![BrightEyes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/2acd7d/32.png) [@BrightEyes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrightEyes)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-comic-guy/147415/107 "2003-01-10T03:16:39Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Max Carnage \* > \*\*Patsy Cline was Hellcat? That’s Crazy! While Hellcat was out Walking After Midnight seeking to cause some evildoers nefarious plot to Fall To Pieces, Patsy Cline was safe in Nashville singing in the Grand Old Opry. 🙂 > > I believe you mean Patsy Walker. \*\* heh. ---
**Author:** ![Interrobang](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/interrobang/32/17463_2.png) [@Interrobang](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Interrobang)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-comic-guy/147415/108 "2003-01-10T03:18:46Z")
Why did _Thriller_, the DC series from the mid-'80s, implode halfway through? I know that the original writer quit and the artist followed shortly thereafter, but what’s the scoop? I _loved_ that book through the first 6 or so issues. Ironically, I managed to read every issue but #11, which was double-sized and contained the climax of the series. Anyone want to spoil the series for me? ---
**Author:** ![MrAtoz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@MrAtoz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrAtoz)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-comic-guy/147415/109 "2003-01-10T03:24:57Z")
Threads like this are a good control for my burgeoning ego. Whenever I start to think I know a lot about comics, I come across a thread like this and realize I really know nothing. _Nothing_, do you hear? So, Captain America’s mighty shield. Is it or is it not made of adamantium? When I was still seriously into comics (that would be the mid-90’s or so), it seemed to be a fact pretty much taken for granted by everybody that Cap’s shield was a rare “adamantium-vibranium alloy.” More recently (after I gave up on comics as too expensive a hobby), I’ve occasionally heard people say, “Don’t be ridiculous. Adamantium wasn’t invented until Avengers #8 (or somewhere therabouts), and we know Cap had his shield long before then.” So, what’s the scoop? Did I just dream up that adamantium-vibranium thing? Have they retconned it? Are my informants full of it? I feel sadly inadequate, not having a full arsenal of Cap facts at my command. ---
**Author:** ![SC\_Wolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/eb9ed0/32.png) [@SC\_Wolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SC_Wolf)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-comic-guy/147415/110 "2003-01-10T03:27:48Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Fenris \* > \*\*Which contradicts the story from around #197 where we see his head from the back which is a lumpy, scarred, misshapen, hairless mess. \*\* So Dr. Doom is really Darth Vader? (Grin, Duck, Run) ---
**Author:** ![BrightEyes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/2acd7d/32.png) [@BrightEyes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrightEyes)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-comic-guy/147415/111 "2003-01-10T03:55:19Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by MrAtoz \* > \*\*Threads like this are a good control for my burgeoning ego. Whenever I start to think I know a lot about comics, I come across a thread like this and realize I really know nothing. _Nothing_, do you hear? > > So, Captain America’s mighty shield. Is it or is it not made of adamantium? When I was still seriously into comics (that would be the mid-90’s or so), it seemed to be a fact pretty much taken for granted by everybody that Cap’s shield was a rare “adamantium-vibranium alloy.” More recently (after I gave up on comics as too expensive a hobby), I’ve occasionally heard people say, “Don’t be ridiculous. Adamantium wasn’t invented until Avengers #8 (or somewhere therabouts), and we know Cap had his shield long before then.” > > So, what’s the scoop? Did I just dream up that adamantium-vibranium thing? Have they retconned it? Are my informants full of it? I feel sadly inadequate, not having a full arsenal of Cap facts at my command. \*\* The shield was vibranium. It might’ve been retconned so it was a admantium/vibranium mix. ---
**Author:** ![BrightEyes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/2acd7d/32.png) [@BrightEyes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrightEyes)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-comic-guy/147415/112 "2003-01-10T03:59:36Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by BrightEyes \* > \*\*The shield was vibranium. It might’ve been retconned so it was a admantium/vibranium mix. \*\* From a cap site- > [@](#): > > The round shield which was to become the mainstay of Captain America’s career was developed by Dr. Myron MacLain, who had been researching the creation of an indestructable alloy for use in making American armored fighting vehicles. The shield was made from a base steel alloy mixture, vibranium, and a “mystery metal” (an alloy which has yet to be successfully reproduced) which crept in while he was asleep. The shield is harder and more durable than adamantium - adamantium itself was discovered by Dr. MacLain when he unsuccessfully tried to replicate the amalgamation ---
**Author:** ![Asylum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/53a042/32.png) [@Asylum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asylum)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-comic-guy/147415/113 "2003-01-10T04:42:54Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by BrightEyes \* > \*\*I’ll rlue daredeviil on this… I’m sure if I had the the marvel universe guide( thanks marvel, I wanted to know that northstar has the burning power of one thousand candles), whic uses “real” numbers. I remember DD being able to understand if a person is lying by their heart beat, could apparently smell blood from 1000 feet away or something. > Wolverine likely has a enhanced sense of sight… Although I can’t think of specific issues that indcate that. \*\* Actually Wolverine wins in the smelling ability category. In Infinity War #2 (I think) a fake Reed Richards summons a boatload of heroes to the FF’s headquarters with the intention of blowing up a bomb killing them all. Daredevil is there and doesn’t notice anything wrong, but Wolverine shows up late and can smell that RR is a fake. Daredevil is shocked that Wolverine’s sense of smell is so much better than his. ---
**Author:** ![E-Sabbath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/e19adc/32.png) [@E-Sabbath](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-Sabbath)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 5:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-comic-guy/147415/114 "2003-01-10T05:18:39Z")
Transformers has a few other Marvel links, actually. First, in the comic book, the Dinobots were created by landing in the Savage Land. Yes, this was waved out of continuity without actually being changed. Second, Circuit Breaker showed briefly in Secret Wars II. And, of course, there’s Death’s Head II (Yessss?), who is from Transformers UK, and had a crossover with Dr. Who as well. Don’t forget, Godzilla is in Marvel continuity, as long as Red Ronin shows up every so often. ---
**Author:** ![Skeezix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/839c29/32.png) [@Skeezix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skeezix)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 9:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-comic-guy/147415/115 "2003-01-10T09:18:17Z")
Yeah, but the bastards slung him all the way back to Devil Dinosaur’s time, and stranded him there, didn’t they? (I don’t care how bloody strong Ben Grimm is, he can’t wrestle Godzilla into a time machine.) Anyone know if Dr. Sardonicus appeared anywhere previously to the first story arc of the Marvel Godzilla series? I could have sworn I’d seen him in some other book, but I can never figure out what it might have been. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 12:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-comic-guy/147415/116 "2003-01-10T12:14:53Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by LoN \* > \*\* > > On [nationstates.net](http://nationstates.net), I named my country “The Free Republic of Ylum.” Who can tell me where I got that name? [/SPOILER] \*\* Nexus, right? (And if it was NEXUS, you have excellent taste! 🙂 ) ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 12:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-comic-guy/147415/117 "2003-01-10T12:16:45Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by BrightEyes \* > \*\*Interesting thing I read, patsy cline aka hellcat appeared in those comics… > Besides Hellcat, does that comic being in continuity change NYTHING? \*\* A) Patsy Walker 🙂 B) Her hubby “Buzz” became a (really lame) super-villian C) She and Hedy showed up at Reed and Sue’s wedding, so they’ve been in continuity since FF Annual #3, circa 1964 or so. Fenris ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 12:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-comic-guy/147415/118 "2003-01-10T12:17:49Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Revtim \* > \*\*OK, did Marvel rip off “The Young Ones” People’s Poet bit, or was the Young One’s bit a ripoff of “Street Poet Ray”? \*\* When did the “Young Ones” appear? “Street Poet Ray” was around late '89 through early '91 or so. Fenris ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-comic-guy/147415/119 "2003-01-10T12:21:27Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Interrobang!? \* > \*\*Why did _Thriller_, the DC series from the mid-'80s, implode halfway through? I know that the original writer quit and the artist followed shortly thereafter, but what’s the scoop? > > I _loved_ that book through the first 6 or so issues. Ironically, I managed to read every issue but #11, which was double-sized and contained the climax of the series. Anyone want to spoil the series for me? \*\* I think the writer and artist leaving half-way through spoiled it pretty well as it is. 😉 However, I have a fuzzy recollection from somewhere (an interview in AMAZING HEROES at the time, maybe?) that there was some silliness with DC and the creators about how long THRILLER would last (8 issues, 12 issues, a continuing series?). I don’t remember who wanted the series to run how long though and I could easily be conflating it with something else. Fenris ---
**Author:** ![Tristan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tristan/32/18058_2.png) [@Tristan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tristan)\ **Post date:** [January 10, 2003, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-comic-guy/147415/120 "2003-01-10T13:55:41Z")
Ok, back when I was young and stupid, I sort of inherited a giant box full of old comic books. This was the mid 80’s, and I had a big ol’ box full of 5c and 10c comic books. Dr. Who comics. Numerous WWII comics (Jeb Stuart and his Ghost Tank being my fav). Several Western comics. I liked me some Kid Colt. Lots and lots of the Dot/Richie Rich/Casper comics. Metal Men, a whole bunch of them. And numerous others. I read them until they fell apart, then read the pieces. All of them were destroyed by my young foolish reading. Did I destroy a fortune? Most of these were in really good shape… But whateve happened to The Metal Men? I love them! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-comic-guy/147415.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-comic-guy/147415.md?page=7)