# Ask the conservative asshole **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 25, 2017, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299 "2017-09-25T19:00:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/181 "2017-09-26T14:15:15Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > On the world stage, did Obama’s behavior ever cause you embarrassment? > > Same question for Trump. At a MAJOR level no. At a more subtle intellectual level. Yes. Obama’s “apology tour” pissed me of royally. Trumps is like the drunk uncle at the birthday party. Yeah HOW he says things and plenty of his behavior is cringeworthy. But when you drill down to the actual point he is making…yeah I can live with it. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/182 "2017-09-26T14:33:40Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > Obama’s “apology tour” pissed me of royally. If fantasies can piss you off so “royally”, perhaps you should change the channels that are spreading these fantasies. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/183 "2017-09-26T14:34:32Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > At the time Obamacare was passed, much of the criticism (thought I don’t know if billfish took this approach) said that it would lead to rationing of care. This is the first time I’ve heard that health care should be rationed, and the problem with Obamacare is that it doesn’t. I do not take this approach now. Not sure I ever did but I won’t swear to it. But if anything bothered (bothers) me about something Obama Care carish…is that I might be FORCED by the gubment to partciipate. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/184 "2017-09-26T14:36:11Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > If fantasies can piss you off so “royally”, perhaps you should change the channels that are spreading these fantasies. Mehhh You have something more substantial than that? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/185 "2017-09-26T14:36:54Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > I do not take this approach now. Not sure I ever did but I won’t swear to it. > > But if anything bothered (bothers) me about something Obama Care carish…is that I might be FORCED by the gubment to partciipate. The government forces hospitals to provide emergency care to anyone, regardless of ability to pay. Do you believe the government should stop doing this, and hospitals should be allowed to let poor people bleed to death on the street outside? If you agree that hospitals should continue to be required to provide emergency care to anyone, then how do you suggest this be paid for? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/186 "2017-09-26T14:38:05Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > Mehhh > > You have something more substantial than that? Huh? There was no apology tour. That was a fact-free fantasy spread by infotainers. If you’d like to continue to believe in this fantasy, that’s your choice, but your belief doesn’t make it true. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/187 "2017-09-26T14:44:16Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Huh? There was no apology tour. That was a fact-free fantasy spread by infotainers. > > If you’d like to continue to believe in this fantasy, that’s your choice, but your belief doesn’t make it true. Put it this way. I’ve liked Trump’s speeches directed towards the international community way more than Obama’s. I’ll give Obama way more credit for being sophisticated/intellectual in how he delivered said speeches. But IMO, Trump…America…fuck yeah…fuck yeah ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/188 "2017-09-26T14:47:57Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > Put it this way. > > I’ve liked Trump’s speeches directed towards the international community way more than Obama’s. > > I’ll give Obama way more credit for being sophisticated/intellectual in how he delivered said speeches. > > But IMO, Trump…America…fuck yeah…fuck yeah Okay. That’s very different than the “apology tour” nonsense. In case you’re interested, you come across as someone who doesn’t put much thought into political issues and who to vote for. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 2:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/189 "2017-09-26T14:50:10Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > Okay. That’s very different than the “apology tour” nonsense. > > In case you’re interested, you come across as someone who doesn’t put much thought into political issues and who to vote for. I’m personally hurt. Maybe you could say I “sound racists” to top it off. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/190 "2017-09-26T14:55:44Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > I’m personally hurt. > > Maybe you could say I “sound racists” to top it off. I don’t recall you posting anything racist off the top of my head. Do you have a cite? EDIT: There was that time you [called another poster a racial slur](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=19939605#post19939605). I don’t know what’s in your heart, but using racial slurs is a racist act, IMO. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/191 "2017-09-26T15:01:26Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I don’t recall you posting anything racist off the top of my head. Do you have a cite? > > EDIT: There was that time you [called another poster a racial slur](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=19939605#post19939605). I don’t know what’s in your heart, but using racial slurs is a racist act, IMO. You’ve used that “sounds racist” line plenty of times on this board. Maybe you have not used it against me. You are like a marginally smarter version of BigT when it comes to the whole “I strive to be a better person and so should you” bullshit. ---
**Author:** ![Procrustus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/procrustus/32/2994_2.png) [@Procrustus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Procrustus)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 3:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/192 "2017-09-26T15:03:28Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > But IMO, Trump…America…fuck yeah…fuck yeah That’s almost good enough to put on an ugly baseball cap. Wouldn’t you like a\* little\* more nuance from your President? ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/193 "2017-09-26T15:05:42Z")
> [@Procrustus](#): > > That’s almost good enough to put on an ugly baseball cap. > > Wouldn’t you like a\* little\* more nuance from your President? Nuanced bullshit or crass assed expressions of ideas I generally agree with. I’ll take the later ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/194 "2017-09-26T15:10:27Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > You’ve used that “sounds racist” line plenty of times on this board. Maybe you have not used it against me. > > You are like a marginally smarter version of BigT when it comes to the whole “I strive to be a better person and so should you” bullshit. Maybe you could back that up with a cite? I talk about racism a lot, but I don’t know what you mean with the “sounds racist” stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/195 "2017-09-26T15:12:16Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > Put it this way. > > I’ve liked Trump’s speeches directed towards the international community way more than Obama’s. > > I’ll give Obama way more credit for being sophisticated/intellectual in how he delivered said speeches. Are you aware of how the _rest_ of the world sees this? And do you care? ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/196 "2017-09-26T15:13:53Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > I talk about racism a lot, but I don’t know what you mean with the “sounds racist” stuff. So, you have never said this or something along these lines? ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 3:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/197 "2017-09-26T15:20:27Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > So, you have never said this or something along these lines? I’m not even sure what you mean. I’ve described posts as racist before (like ones that used racial slurs, or compared black people to cockroaches, or stuff like that). Is that what you mean? If so, do you disagree? Do you think your usage of an ethnic/ racial slur was not racist? ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/198 "2017-09-26T15:26:39Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > Nuanced bullshit or crass assed expressions of ideas I generally agree with. > > I’ll take the later Ignorant & crass, and proud of both, is no way to go through life, bill-o. Unless you’re an asshole. Then it’s the only way. ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/199 "2017-09-26T15:34:02Z")
> [@raventhief](#): > > Are you a veteran? If yes, what branch? > > Do you feel the best thing for the country is animosity- more widening divides ? More hate? Hmmm. ---
**Author:** ![leftfield6](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leftfield6/32/18780_2.png) [@leftfield6](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leftfield6)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 3:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/200 "2017-09-26T15:37:30Z")
> [@iiandyiiii](#): > > … > In case you’re interested, you come across as someone who doesn’t put much thought into political issues and who to vote for. **iiandyiii** , you just described every single Trump voter I know, IRL. They blindly support Trump because he is the “anti-Obama”. IOW, he is white, relies more on emotion than logic, sees everything in right/wrong, not in shades of gray. And, of course, everything is US vs THEM. Pure tribalism. I have no questions for the OP, because he has proven that he is putting no more effort in defending his positions in this thread than he did in adopting those positions initially. Which is to say practically zilch. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299.md?page=11)