# Ask the conservative asshole **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 25, 2017, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299 "2017-09-25T19:00:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 16
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/301 "2017-09-27T20:28:35Z")
Yeah, that is a bit odd. But I did not answer him…so maybe that makes sense… ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/302 "2017-09-27T20:31:38Z")
Well, you haven’t been particularly good about answering my questions in this thread either, but at least I’m not random about my obviously raging hostility. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/303 "2017-09-27T20:34:24Z")
> [@begbert2](#): > > Well, you haven’t been particularly good about answering my questions in this thread either, but at least I’m not random about my obviously raging hostility. I’ll give you that 🙂 Remind me of your question(s) again. Not trying to be a dick but my internet connection/ personal memory sucks donkey balls here. Again, don’t ask a question that sounds like a damn college essay assignment. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/304 "2017-09-27T20:35:58Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > Do you want me to start a thread on this on ABTM? Go wild, dude. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/305 "2017-09-27T20:36:56Z")
> [@Miller](#): > > Go wild, dude. Just might. Should be interesting. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Tooth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c67d28/32.png) [@The\_Tooth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Tooth)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/306 "2017-09-27T20:37:13Z")
It’s pretty simple: those who support Trump support torturing prisoners and having their families murdered, among other acts I find unacceptable; such people are beneath me. I responded to something Knowed Out said, I didn’t ask the OP for his opinion on my comment or anything else. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/307 "2017-09-27T20:38:42Z")
> [@The\_Tooth](#): > > It’s pretty simple: those who support Trump support torturing prisoners and having their families murdered, among other acts I find unacceptable; such people are beneath me. I responded to something Knowed Out said, I didn’t ask the OP for his opinion on my comment or anything else. Well, since you did not ask me…well, you can quote me on this issue " ". ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/308 "2017-09-27T20:49:56Z")
A bit ago you said, referring to why you like Trump: > [@billfish678](#): > > Nuanced bullshit or crass assed expressions of ideas I generally agree with. > > I’ll take the later The thing is, though, that Trump generally says things that are awful. He likes nazis, racism, and murderous dictators - and says so. And most of the other stuff he says is petty sniping self-absorbed bullshit. Now, I like crassness as much as the next fucking guy, but all crassness aside, what are you hearing from this guy that you “generally agree with”? ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/309 "2017-09-27T20:53:53Z")
> [@begbert2](#): > > A bit ago you said, referring to why you like Trump: > > The thing is, though, that Trump generally says things that are awful. He likes nazis, racism, and murderous dictators - and says so. And most of the other stuff he says is petty sniping self-absorbed bullshit. > > \*\*Now, I like crassness as much as the next fucking guy, \*\*but all crassness aside, what are you hearing from this guy that you “generally agree with”? Pick something you think Trump does or does not stand for. And I’'ll tell you if I agree or not. PS…love the bolded part…sometimes the folks around here really know how to turn a phrase 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/310 "2017-09-27T20:57:02Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > On its own…yeah it is nothing. But he got warned for doing the same damn thing in another thread…and when he brought it here, he even turned up the dial a bit. For the life of me, I can’t see what he said that was objectionable. I would really like Asimovian to come back and explain his rationale. ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/311 "2017-09-27T21:01:31Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > Pick something you think Trump does or does not stand for. And I’'ll tell you if I agree or not. Just so you know, I read this as you saying you can’t think of anything he’s said you agree with. ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 9:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/312 "2017-09-27T21:13:41Z")
After thinking about it some, the only things I think that Trump personally stands for are: 1. Praising him 2. Loyalty to him 3. Him getting money 4. Him not paying money he owes 5. Nobody getting away with insulting him 6. Him having dictatorial power (as a business owner has) 7. Grabbing pussies 8. Being racist 9. Supporting racists 10. Supporting dictators I’m willing to concede that I’m a bit biased. But that’s why I asked _you_ what you agreed with. If anyone knows what you agree with it’s you; I shouldn’t have to play a guessing game. ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/313 "2017-09-27T21:19:19Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > You are the only racist dumbass on this entire board that agrees with this racist notion. WTF is wrong with you? :smack: OK, it may not be by some weird definition an “ethnic slur”, but it’s racist as fuck. Really? How about you explain to all of us how you determine a person’s race if the term “wetback” is used to describe them? ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/314 "2017-09-27T21:26:14Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Really? How about you explain to all of us how you determine a person’s race if the term “wetback” is used to describe them? [Merriam-Webster.](https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/wetback) > [@](#): > > Definition of wetback > offensive > :a Mexican who enters the U.S. illegally > > \*\* Origin and Etymology of wetback \*\* > from the practice of wading or swimming the Rio Grande where it forms the U.S.-Mexico border ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/315 "2017-09-27T21:30:57Z")
Personally, the way I determine a person’s race if the term “wetback” is used to describe them is that I realise that it’s a racist term that racists use to refer to mexicans, and thus the person is probably a latino of some flavor unless the racist in question is even worse at identifying racial types than average. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/316 "2017-09-27T21:32:38Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > Pick something you think Trump does or does not stand for. And I’'ll tell you if I agree or not. The number one thing Trump stands for (besides his self-adoration) is banning Muslims from the United States of America. He has proven that beyond the shadow of doubt to any thinking person. Now, you have two choices in your answer: [ol][li]Explain why you support such a stance.[/li][li]Provide evidence that Trump, in fact, does not support such a ban.[/ol][/li] An attempt at 2 should be amusing since, as the courts have noted, Trump’s own public statements show he supports that ban. An attempt at 1 should also be entertaining since that would show you, just like Trump, have no regard for the basic law of the United States, its constitution. I guess I have another question: Why do you believe Trump is a conservative, or even actually a Republican? ---
**Author:** ![wguy123](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wguy123/32/3161_2.png) [@wguy123](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wguy123)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/317 "2017-09-27T21:57:55Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Really? How about you explain to all of us how you determine a person’s race if the term “wetback” is used to describe them? What does that have to do with you being a racist? Have you ever heard the term and thought it might be an Asian they were talking about? ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/318 "2017-09-27T22:06:39Z")
> [@tnetennba](#): > > Casual googling proves you wrong. Reality proves me right. ---
**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 10:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/319 "2017-09-27T22:07:52Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > Reality proves me right. So if you yell it at a random Hispanic person in the street, they won’t think that it’s a slur? 'Cause if most Hispanic people think it’s a slur against Hispanic people, then it’s a slur against Hispanic people. Alternately, can you find a single long-term conservative Doper – perhaps **Bricker, Shodan, Bone, Fotheringay-Phipps,** or anyone else, that would agree with you that wetback is not a racial or ethnic slur? ---
**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/320 "2017-09-27T22:10:57Z")
> [@wguy123](#): > > What does that have to do with you being a racist? > > Have you ever heard the term and thought it might be an Asian they were talking about? Sigh. I am not a racist. Deal with that fact. I know libs love to scream racistracistracist like parrots on crack whenever they disagree with someone, but you should at least try to understand the proper meaning of the term: > [@](#): > > racist > [rey-sist] > Spell Syllables > Word Origin > See more synonyms on [Thesaurus.com](http://Thesaurus.com) > noun > 1. > a person who believes in racism, the doctrine that one’s own racial group is superior or that a particular racial group is inferior to the others. And when I hear the term wetback, I understand it to mean what was explained earlier - somebody who swam the river to get in. Deal with that fact as well. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299.md?page=15) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299.md?page=17)