# Ask the conservative asshole **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 25, 2017, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299 "2017-09-25T19:00:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 22
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2017, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/421 "2017-09-29T21:28:09Z")
**Clothahump** , if everyone in the whole world understood the term “wetback” to be a racist slur _except for you_, would you maybe reconsider your stance here? ---
**Author:** ![tnetennba](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tnetennba](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tnetennba)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2017, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/422 "2017-09-29T22:23:32Z")
How can he reconsider something that wasn’t considered a first time? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2017, 6:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/423 "2017-09-30T06:36:01Z")
[Are you really sure one particular term is not racist?](http://www.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/national/article171518347.html) Seriously, is that the hill you’ve chosen? ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2017, 12:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/424 "2017-09-30T12:33:20Z")
And all this time I thought wetback was Navy slang for a Seal or submariner or Marine or something… ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2017, 1:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/425 "2017-09-30T13:17:38Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > [Are you really sure one particular term is not racist?](http://www.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/national/article171518347.html) Seriously, is that the hill you’ve chosen? So, now we’ve met one of **Clothy** ’s cousins? ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2017, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/426 "2017-09-30T14:39:26Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > [Are you really sure one particular term is not racist?](http://www.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/national/article171518347.html) Seriously, is that the hill you’ve chosen? To be fair, if you asked that guy, he’d probably claim not to be a racist as well. At the same time, I bet he’d be proud to tell you that he voted for trump. ---
**Author:** ![enipla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/54ee81/32.png) [@enipla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/enipla)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2017, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/427 "2017-09-30T15:15:26Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Why on Earth would you think that Ms. Clinton as president would be a nightmare? Why on Earth would you not realize that Trump would be a horrendous president? What, specifically, was the calculus you used that took you even one step down that road? **This is what I don’t get. And I too would like an answer to.** The only reason I can come up with is Trump is now president just to piss off democrats, ‘liberals’ and thinking people. I guess the ‘tribalism’ thing. We won! Ha,ha. Or possibly if you’re in that top 1% you think his policy’s will help your bottom line. But if THAT’s the reason, your bottom line is in pretty good shape. My Wife and I make a very good living. And the last thing I think about when voting for an elected official is “Who will help me? Who will help me, personally, the most”. What is stunning is that the majority of Trump supporters are the ones that he won’t help at all. He’s actively trying to hurt them so that Trump and his buddies have another million a year for what? Repaint their private jet? Or is it that they are truly racists down deep inside. Plenty of them have scurried out from under the rug this last year. I liked and like Kasich myself. He can at least form a proper sentence. But Trump? Over Clinton? Seriously? ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2017, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/428 "2017-09-30T16:26:34Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > I much prefer Rick “I want to eliminate the Dept. Of Energy because I didn’t know what they did including overseeing our nuclear arsenal” Perry. > Drawback being it doesn’t fit on a t-shirt and the bumper sticker would barely fit on a semi-. Hey, that’s not fair! I’ll have you know that he can name all three of those…um…wait…hold on, jussec. > [@septimus](#): > > Gotcha questions Yes…very pesky. ---
**Author:** ![Fiveyearlurker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@Fiveyearlurker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveyearlurker)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2017, 7:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/429 "2017-09-30T19:45:48Z")
> [@enipla](#): > > **This is what I don’t get. And I too would like an answer to.** > > The only reason I can come up with is Trump is now president just to piss off democrats, ‘liberals’ and thinking people. I guess the ‘tribalism’ thing. We won! Ha,ha. This is nearly word for word my brother’s reason for supporting him. He wants Trump’s policies to be whatever upsets liberals the most. The substance of the policies doesn’t matter. I’m not reading into his psyche; this is his stated motivation. Also, he’s super racist. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Hedonia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ann_hedonia/32/319_2.png) [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2017, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/430 "2017-09-30T19:53:21Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > **Clothahump** , if everyone in the whole world understood the term “wetback” to be a racist slur _except for you_, would you maybe reconsider your stance here? I think he’s being disingenuous. Clothy, if you had an Hispanic student in one of your classes, would you refer to them as a wetback? Do you think your business community would be OK with you using the term to refer to your Hispanic students, their parents and other community members? Or would they be upset if it were to get around that you used this term frequently and casually? ---
**Author:** ![sinjin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ebca7d/32.png) [@sinjin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sinjin)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2017, 10:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/431 "2017-09-30T22:21:48Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > Generally speaking no. > > But then again…I DO like an honest asshole rather than a lying through their teeth politician. > > Enjoy the irony. Yes but how do you feel about THE lying thru his teeth asshole? ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2017, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/432 "2017-09-30T22:37:12Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > I think he’s being disingenuous. Clothy, if you had an Hispanic student in one of your classes, would you refer to them as a wetback? Do you think your business community would be OK with you using the term to refer to your Hispanic students, their parents and other community members? Or would they be upset if it were to get around that you used this term frequently and casually? Apart from the aspirated “h”, those have been probably the best questions directed to **clothahump** so far, and will be quite keen to hear his responses. ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2017, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/433 "2017-09-30T22:54:33Z")
Clot’s not going to answer those questions. He’s too chickenshit. He’s incapable of understanding them and that makes him go all sulky. He’s just going to dismiss them as liberal white noise and find some other way to piss off leftist Dopers. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2017, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/434 "2017-09-30T23:15:26Z")
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#): > > I think he’s being disingenuous. Clothy, if you had an Hispanic student in one of your classes, would you refer to them as a wetback? Do you think your business community would be OK with you using the term to refer to your Hispanic students, their parents and other community members? Or would they be upset if it were to get around that you used this term frequently and casually? Far be it from me to defend clothahump, as I think he’s a piece of trash in every way concievable, but I think I can answer for you, as it is likely that he will not deign to do so. He did say that the reason he does not consider it to be a slur is because he feels it only refers to those who specifically entered the country illegally by swimming across the river. If he does not feel that any of his students swam across the river in order to enter the country illegally, according to what he has said here, he would not refer to them as such. ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2017, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/435 "2017-10-01T00:11:39Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > If he does not feel that any of his students swam across the river in order to enter the country illegally, according to what he has said here, he would not refer to them as such. But say if one of them had swum across…Clot: would you call him/her a wetback? I’ll youtube link to some impressive Taekwondo moves of mine if you answer. ---
**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2017, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/436 "2017-10-01T01:56:59Z")
[Would you settle for some impressive bodily contortions?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fdPLSh5ZD2Q) ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2017, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/437 "2017-10-01T13:03:56Z")
Here’s a question, **billfish** : What do you think [about Trump’s response to the devastation in Puerto Rico as reported in this article](http://edition.cnn.com/2017/10/01/politics/trump-tweets-puerto-rico/index.html)? Bad, but better than Killary’s would have been? ---
**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2017, 1:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/438 "2017-10-01T13:41:25Z")
It comes from CNN, so it’s fake news. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2017, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/439 "2017-10-01T14:10:36Z")
> [@Knowed\_Out](#): > > It comes from CNN, so it’s fake news. Based on the information in [this _Miami Herald_ article](http://www.miamiherald.com/news/weather/hurricane/article175955031.html) from a few days ago, the actual death toll from the hurricane, and its after-effects, such as loss of power and water, is likely several times higher than official estimates. The article notes that 70% of the island’s hospitals remain without power, so it seems reasonable to assume that there have been numerous deaths of patients who were in a precarious state to begin with, and as reported, bodies are “piling up” at morgues, apparently without a consistent official count. Yeah, I know, fake news, but I have to think that the longer this is swept under the rug, the harder it’s going to hit when the real numbers come out. ---
**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2017, 2:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/440 "2017-10-01T14:16:31Z")
I also **billfish** and other Trump supporters for comments [on the fact that the Obamacare budget is being used to undermine Obamacare.](https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/09/04/us/hhs-anti-obamacare-campaign.html) > [@](#): > > In June, the health department posted 23 video testimonials on YouTube from people who said they had been “burdened by Obamacare,” including families, health care professionals and small business owners. > > … the money for the videos [apparently] came from the budget meant to promote the Affordable Care Act. > > … one of the participants in the videos said he felt he was being pushed “for a harder line against Obamacare.” Is this appropriate? What would you think if parties were reversed? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299.md?page=21) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299.md?page=23)