# Ask the conservative asshole

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [September 25, 2017, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299 "2017-09-25T19:00:36Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/41 "2017-09-25T20:31:23Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> For the most part? The Civil rights movement is/was the bomb (no movement is perfect).
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> I think it was a shame MLK died. But not just because a good man died. But that the movement got hijacked by IMO a bunch of race baiting retards.

What about the rest of my question?

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/42 "2017-09-25T20:33:15Z")

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> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#):
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> Do you believe that the USA’s wholehearted embrace of a person whose WWE track record is more impressive than his political record will drive intelligent, well-educated migrants to seek out other countries to call home, or not migrate at all? If so, do you consider this a bad thing? Also, are you aware of the dropping birth rate in Latin America, and the steady downward shift in illegal immigration under Obama?

Well, it IS keeping the lawn mowers and leaf blowers out…

For that matter, the intelligent and well educated immigrants are IMO are people who actually apply to be citizens…

WTF are we letting people in that will work hard for shit wages? The minimum wage should be a clue that we have more that enough of that work force…

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**Author:** ![BlankSlate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/blankslate/32/80_2.png) [@BlankSlate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BlankSlate)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/43 "2017-09-25T20:33:37Z")

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I don’t know why everyone says you’re an asshole. You’re a dick, sure, but asshole seems harsh.

As for questions, what does one ask a Trump voter? Why are you so fucking retarded?

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/44 "2017-09-25T20:34:44Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> What about the rest of my question?

I marched in Selma…wait…no I did not…what else do you want outa me?

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/45 "2017-09-25T20:36:58Z")

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> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> I don’t know why everyone says you’re an asshole. You’re a dick, sure, but asshole seems harsh.
> 
> As for questions, what does one ask a Trump voter? Why are you so fucking retarded?

It’s genetic.

What can I say…

PS…is dick worse than asshole…maybe that Team America movie willl answer this…

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/46 "2017-09-25T20:43:59Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> I am reminded of the song “right place…wrong time…”…if somebody could supply a link I’d like it.

[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/HT4RainY-lY/hqdefault.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEmCOADEOgC8quKqQMa8AEB-AG-AoAC8AGKAgwIABABGHIgRihQMA8=&rs=AOn4CLADPa35SPQp4EIfkzMobdfwIaXKng "Dr. John - Right Place Wrong Time") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HT4RainY-lY)

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/47 "2017-09-25T20:45:37Z")

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Sweet…fifty ways to leave your lover and I can call it a good day.

Thanks for the link

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 8:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/48 "2017-09-25T20:46:02Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> I marched in Selma…wait…no I did not…what else do you want outa me?

What did your friends and family think? Did you have arguments with them about it?

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**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/49 "2017-09-25T20:53:06Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> What did your friends and family think? Did you have arguments with them about it?

Dude it was like 60ish freaking years ago…

I went to a school that was roughly 50 percent black. We had freaking “gates” across the major hallways…because of those “race riots” a few years previous…

No. I was NOT marching in Selma with MLK.

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/50 "2017-09-25T21:27:42Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> You might be shocked…but mostly?
> 
> The fucking SDMB.
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> Which, ironically, is why liberals piss me off. You’ll be pissed…but to be honest…the SDMB is probably a big factor in why I voted for Trump.

Is the schadenfreude gained by pissing off the Liberals worth the danger inherent in having a man in charge of our country who is completely unsuited to the position?

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/51 "2017-09-25T21:32:59Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> Dude it was like 60ish freaking years ago…
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> I went to a school that was roughly 50 percent black. We had freaking “gates” across the major hallways…because of those “race riots” a few years previous…
> 
> No. I was NOT marching in Selma with MLK.

That still doesn’t answer my questions. If you’re not interested, or don’t remember, fine.

I ask because of what my dad tells me (he was a young adult in the 60s). He would have passionate arguments with his father about civil rights (my dad was pro, grandpa was against). My grandpa was a wonderful grandfather, but he was an old Southern racist with old Southern racist views. Ironically (or not, perhaps), genetic ancestry tests of his descendants have revealed (years after his death) that he was 1/8th African (and therefore I’m 1/32nd).

And I’m wondering what you and those close to you thought. Was it not an important issue for you and those close to you, or did you talk about it? If so, what did everyone think?

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/52 "2017-09-25T21:34:07Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> Which, ironically, is why liberals piss me off. You’ll be pissed…but to be honest…the SDMB is probably a big factor in why I voted for Trump.

What have we done? :eek:

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/53 "2017-09-25T21:45:59Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> Which, ironically, is why liberals piss me off. You’ll be pissed…but to be honest…the SDMB is probably a big factor in why I voted for Trump.

If so, this reflects very, very poorly on you. For me, the only factor for who I vote for is who I think will do the best job leading the country and improving the lives of all Americans (with special emphasis on disadvantaged Americans).

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**Author:** ![Llama\_Llogophile](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/49beb7/32.png) [@Llama\_Llogophile](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Llama_Llogophile)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/54 "2017-09-25T21:49:16Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> I like the idea of a secure border.

This was a polite non-answer to the question you were asked, Bill, IMO.

But rather than pressing you on “the wall” per se, here’s a related question…

You’re probably aware that [most illegal immigrants are here becuase of overstayed visas.](most ilegal immigrants are here because of overstayed visas.) (That cite is from the National Review in 2015, by the way, and includes some Obama bashing if it makes it go down easier). Given that fact, Trump’s insistence on spending a great deal of money building “the wall” seems foolish.

I’m sure you’ve heard this before. It seems as cut and dry as anything in politics - it’s mostly overstayed visas, far fewer people tramping over the border to be stopped by a physical barrier. As a thoughtful and principled conservative, how do you respond to this? Outside of your personal opinion, what is the best response to this you’ve heard? Do you acknowledge the dissonance presented by the apparent facts?

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**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/55 "2017-09-25T21:49:19Z")

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Is Trump an unqualified hack who is wholly unsuited to the presidency and doing a terrible job?

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/56 "2017-09-25T22:02:31Z")

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> [@billfish678](#):
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> Apparently “migration” is down something like 70 percent this year…so yeah the Big Cheeto is a mexican repellent all on his own.

Damn you! Now I have a mental image of giant herds of wilderbeests! 😃

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/57 "2017-09-25T22:10:38Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> Damn you! Now I have a mental image of giant herds of wilderbeests! 😃

Well, no gnus is good gnus…

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**Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 10:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/58 "2017-09-25T22:10:49Z")

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List off everything you support viz a viz J-bo Sessions.

Do you see anything valid in what De Vos and Pruitt are doing?

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**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/59 "2017-09-25T22:17:05Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> Well, no gnus is good gnus…

Oh no you didn’t! 😃

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [September 25, 2017, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/60 "2017-09-25T22:18:22Z")

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> [@SteveG1](#):
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> Oh no you didn’t! 😃

Hey, at least I kept **Gary Gnu** ’s good name out of it…

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