# Ask the conservative asshole **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 25, 2017, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299 "2017-09-25T19:00:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 8
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 3:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/141 "2017-09-26T03:12:14Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > Is there a point to this thread other than to make the Liberals dance? Ask a question…get an answer. Where else are you going to find a conservative here willing to put it all on the line? Consider it field research if that makes you feel better. I doubt you’d have the balls to do the same on a 90 percent conservative leaning board. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/142 "2017-09-26T03:32:11Z")
You aren’t really answering the questions though. I would absolutely appreciate a thread where a conservative Trump voter honestly answered questions about issues. Heck, I’d supply the beverage of their choice and we could talk for hours. You aren’t answering. What are you getting from this? How is this field research? ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/143 "2017-09-26T03:42:07Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > No. None of us do. > > Were you upset that at the DNC convention you almost could not FIND a flag? It was like they were embarassed about America or something. Maybe the people attending already knew what country they were in. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/144 "2017-09-26T03:47:55Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > You aren’t really answering the questions though. I would absolutely appreciate a thread where a conservative Trump voter honestly answered questions about issues. Heck, I’d supply the beverage of their choice and we could talk for hours. You aren’t answering. What are you getting from this? How is this field research? Ask an answer that can be answered without a debate and I’ll answer it. I’ve done it before in this thread. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/145 "2017-09-26T03:49:24Z")
> [@El\_Kabong](#): > > Maybe the people attending already knew what country they were in. Mexico? ---
**Author:** ![Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/budget_player_cadet/32/205_2.png) [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Budget_Player_Cadet)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/146 "2017-09-26T04:02:20Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > Generally speaking no. > > But then again…I DO like an honest asshole rather than a lying through their teeth politician. > > Enjoy the irony. Okay, so you think Trump is mostly honest. > [@billfish678](#): > > Not really. > > He’s a lying asshole. But he’s a lying asshole who knows he’s a lying asshole and he knows you know he’s a lying asshole. …Or… Not. He’s just more brazen about it and less shameful. This is a _complete_ reversal from your previous post. You know that, right? This is a mental two-step. You say “Trump is honest”. Then, when called on it, and when it is pointed out that he has lied more than any politician in political memory, you retreat to, “Okay, he lies, but he knows he’s lying and so does everyone else.” (This is not true; if you understand when Trump is lying and about what, that puts you ahead of I’d say [more than half](http://www.businessinsider.de/poll-trump-voters-donald-jr-meeting-2017-7?r=US&IR=T) of the republican base.) And then a few days later, you go back to “Trump is mostly honest”, because that’s what it _feels_ like. Second question: have you heard of epistemic integrity? If you know someone is dishonest, especially if they’re _particularly_ dishonest, don’t call them honest just because _you like how they talk_. Say that you like how they talk. Why would you even _say_ that Trump is honest, when in fact he has lied more than any politician in recent memory, about easily verified things, to the point where many news organizations have questioned whether he can even tell the difference between the truth and a lie? > [@billfish678](#): > > It might cost you yours too. > > Just saying. “Hey, my poor decision-making won’t just hurt me. It will also fuck _you_ up!” Question four: are you a fucking sociopath? > [@billfish678](#): > > No. > > Come up with something PRACTICAL and I’'ll support it (or at least not fight it to the death). Question five: has any politician in the USA proposed a practical solution for health care? Has any country anywhere in the world implemented a practical solution for health care? Which party is proposing solutions closer to those solutions? ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/147 "2017-09-26T04:05:21Z")
> [@Budget\_Player\_Cadet](#): > > Question four: are you a fucking sociopath? Trump has not actually tapped me for an advisors position…so the eight ball says “maybe”. ---
**Author:** ![octopus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/octopus/32/3716_2.png) [@octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/octopus)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 4:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/148 "2017-09-26T04:22:37Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > Is there a point to this thread other than to make the Liberals dance? If you don’t like it don’t participate. Have some self control. Yo, billfish678, do you think that president Trump is actually going to be counterproductive with regards to achieving what you’d like to see government or society for that matter do? ---
**Author:** ![splatterpunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@splatterpunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/splatterpunk)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 4:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/149 "2017-09-26T04:29:27Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > Trump has not actually tapped me for an advisors position…so the eight ball says “maybe”. Bullshit. I have [photographic](https://hiphappy.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/outside-toilet.jpg)evidence that he called you this morning. I don’t know what he offered in the way of compensation, but if I were you, I’d hold out for a double wide! ---
**Author:** ![raventhief](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/raventhief/32/4_2.png) [@raventhief](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raventhief)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/150 "2017-09-26T04:31:32Z")
Are you a veteran? If yes, what branch? Do you feel the best thing for the country is animosity- more widening divides ? More hate? ---
**Author:** ![splatterpunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@splatterpunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/splatterpunk)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/151 "2017-09-26T04:36:45Z")
> [@octopus](#): > > Yo, billfish678, do you think that president Trump is actually going to be counterproductive with regards to achieving what you’d like to see government or society for that matter do? Do you actually think that drunken pinhead is going to understand this question, let alone give a coherent response? ---
**Author:** ![Guest-starring\_Id](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guest-starring_id/32/21736_2.png) [@Guest-starring\_Id](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guest-starring_Id)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/152 "2017-09-26T04:40:05Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > Be more specific. Definitely one of the faster moving threads! Well, shit off the top of my head, anyway - Do you support Sessions’s views on increasing mandatory-minimum sentences on non-violent criminals who meet the following criteria - (a) the relevant conduct didn’t involve death, violence, a threat of violence or possession of a weapon; (b) the defendant wasn’t an organizer, leader or manager of others within a criminal organization; (c) there were no ties to large-scale drug trafficking operations; and (d) the defendant didn’t have a “significant” criminal history (i.e., prior convictions)? What are your thoughts that Sessions, originally a shill for Big Tobacco, feels that pot is “only slightly less awful” than heroin? Or this statement: “The creating of knowledge that [pot] is dangerous, it cannot be played with, it is not funny, it’s not something to laugh about, and trying to send that message with clarity, that good people don’t smoke marijuana.” Or that real thigh-slapper that he thought the KKK were “ok until found out they smoke pot”. Even if you smoke (but not pot), do you still see any validity in those statements? He’s Trump-crazy about the wall. Are you? He thinks the ACLU and NAACP are “un-American” and “communist-inspired”. Discuss. In 2015 the supreme court legalized gay marriage. Sessions called this “unconstitutional”. Do you agree? Meanwhile De Vos’s idea of school reform is to “advance God’s kingdom”. (along with conversion therapy and intelligent design - I hope you know what those are) You’re on board with all of this, right? Her lack of knowledge of even the most basic education policies, constantly dodging softball questions from the media, and diverting money (already set aside for public school) to discriminatory private schools - are any of these things of concern to you? I’m sure you’re well aware of Pruitt repeatedly suing the EPA prior to his heading that body. Does that not strike you as egregiously fucked-up? Are you comfortable with his close ties to the fossil fuel industry? He thinks fracking has nothing to do with groundwater contamination. Agree? (There’s also studies showing strong links to a huge increase in seismic activity in fracking areas as well) He wants to slacken regulations curbing Mercury and Phosphorous effluent. Cool? Well, you asked me to be more specific, and I coulda asked TONS more, but I didn’t want you to feel too homework-y. Hope you’re not on the east coast, because that’s getting late - still - I’d like you to address each and every thing I’ve asked here. Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 4:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/153 "2017-09-26T04:50:39Z")
What is your position on pay equality? ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/154 "2017-09-26T04:51:41Z")
> [@Eddie The Horrible](#): > > Well, you asked me to be more specific, and I coulda asked TONS more, but I didn’t want you to feel too homework-y. Hope you’re not on the east coast, because that’s getting late - still - I’d like you to address each and every thing I’ve asked here. Thanks. Yeah…like that is happening…good fucking grief. Getting late here…but I might actually address a point or two of yours tommorrow. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 4:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/155 "2017-09-26T04:54:24Z")
> [@Sunny\_Daze](#): > > What is your position on pay equality? Let the market sort it out. Why aren’t some greedy assed capitalist pigs employing mostly female engineers that will work for 70 cents on the dollar and kicking ass against the other engineering firms? ---
**Author:** ![splatterpunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@splatterpunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/splatterpunk)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/156 "2017-09-26T04:55:52Z")
> [@Clothahump](#): > > We had that for the last two terms. Yeah! It’s Obama’s fault that a shrewd businessman such as myself, masterful financial planner that I am, was almost driven out of business by a $500 broken window. Trump is going to Make America Great Again by transforming me into something other than a drooling moron! Suck it, Obama! ---
**Author:** ![splatterpunk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/3be4f8/32.png) [@splatterpunk](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/splatterpunk)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/157 "2017-09-26T05:04:07Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > Yeah…like that is happening…good fucking grief. > > Getting late here…but I might actually address a point or two of yours tommorrow. No, you won’t. You won’t even read his post. By the time you open this thread tomorrow you’ll already be on your second Steel Reserve, and won’t even be able to read the directional signs in your trailer park. ---
**Author:** ![Blue\_Max](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/9de053/32.png) [@Blue\_Max](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blue_Max)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/158 "2017-09-26T05:07:43Z")
Okay, if I might: Your opinion of White Nationalist Movements. Your opinion of progressive income taxes. What, if anything, should be done to prevent school and workplace shootings? What is the _Appropriate Role_ of religion in Society? ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/159 "2017-09-26T05:10:33Z")
> [@splatterpunk](#): > > No, you won’t. You won’t even read his post. By the time you open this thread tomorrow you’ll already be on your second Steel Reserve, and won’t even be able to read the directional signs in your trailer park. You got me… But yes I will. Why don’t YOU read his post and give your long and detailed and thoughtful input… ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [September 26, 2017, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299/160 "2017-09-26T05:15:07Z")
> [@Blue\_Max](#): > > Okay, if I might: > > Your opinion of White Nationalist Movements. > Your opinion of progressive income taxes. > What, if anything, should be done to prevent school and workplace shootings? > What is the _Appropriate Role_ of religion in Society? Jackasses mostly. People earning more (particularly A LOT more) getting taxed a higher rate? Fine by me (business tax is a whole other issue…) Shooting all over? Either get rid of guns or allow any “decent” person to have one and let it all hang out. Religion…like politics…people need to keep that shit to themselves… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299.md?page=7) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conservative-asshole/797299.md?page=9)