# Ask the conspiracy theorist **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [October 27, 2012, 5:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conspiracy-theorist/639012 "2012-10-27T05:07:39Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![PSXer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/48db29/32.png) [@PSXer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PSXer)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2012, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conspiracy-theorist/639012/21 "2012-10-27T14:36:36Z")
what do you think of Oliver Stone’s JFK ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2012, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conspiracy-theorist/639012/22 "2012-10-27T14:55:09Z")
Do you have a job, and if so, what is it? Do you have a DSM-IV-TR disorder, and if so, what is it and how are you dealing with it? Do you have a spouse, and if so, how does that spouse deal with your being a conspiracy theorist? What actions have you taken, or intend to take, to combat the conspirers? Do you own a gun? ---
**Author:** ![Ace309](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ace309/32/1050_2.png) [@Ace309](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ace309)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2012, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conspiracy-theorist/639012/23 "2012-10-27T15:10:24Z")
You’ve mentioned that you read _The New York Times_ every day. Do you read _The Wall Street Journal_ at all, and if not, why not? ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2012, 3:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conspiracy-theorist/639012/24 "2012-10-27T15:22:34Z")
> [@An\_Gadai](#): > > Are there any popular conspiracy theories that you think are bull? I’m interested in the answer to this question too. For instance: what do you think about the theory that government is deliberately seeding the atomosphere with toxins (“chemtrails”) to make people sick? Are there conspiracies to cover up great dangers associated with aspartame sweetener and water fluoridation? Are Bill Gates and major corporations plotting to depopulate the world through vaccination? Are scientists and drug companies covering up the existence of cheap, safe, effective cures for chronic diseases and cancer? Do you find any of the above theories to be nonsense, or are all either substantially correct or reasonable theories worthy of investigation? ---
**Author:** ![Musicat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/musicat/32/20189_2.png) [@Musicat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Musicat)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2012, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conspiracy-theorist/639012/25 "2012-10-27T16:02:45Z")
There are dozens of theories about 9/11 alone. You can’t believe them all, many are mutually incompatible (planes vs. no planes, for example). Which one(s) do you find the most credible, and why? Please describe what ones you find NOT credible, and why, too. I’ve got all day, so take your time. A short list, just from memory:[ul][_]There were no planes[_]There were planes, but they had rockets (pods) attached and shot them at the buildings before plunging into them[_]There were planes, but they were not passenger planes[_]There were planes, but they were remote controlled[_]There were planes, but they didn’t hit the towers and all the news reporters inserted images in the videos real-time to make it believable [_]The towers and Pentagon were hit by missiles, not planes[_]The towers were brought down by explosives planted in advance and the planes (if any) were just misdirection[_]Bush gesticulated hypnotically and the nation was brainwashed because he wanted to invade Iraq and needed an excuse[/ul] ---
**Author:** ![Astroboy14](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df705f/32.png) [@Astroboy14](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astroboy14)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2012, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conspiracy-theorist/639012/26 "2012-10-27T16:12:56Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > Do you have a job, **and if so** , what is it? > > Do you have a DSM-IV-TR disorder, **and if so** , what is it and how are you dealing with it? > > Do you have a spouse, **and if so** , how does that spouse deal with your being a conspiracy theorist? I totally read that in the voice of the narrator for Ancient Aliens… ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2012, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conspiracy-theorist/639012/27 "2012-10-27T16:32:37Z")
If you believe what you do, explain why you are permitted to post about it? ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2012, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conspiracy-theorist/639012/28 "2012-10-27T21:23:56Z")
> [@dimmy\_derko](#): > > I suppose I’m a bit of a conspiracy theorist. I believe billionaires in Russia, China, the Americas, Europe, etc, have more in common with each other than they do with the lowly plebs of their countries of birth and they will happily scheme to screw those plebs over to maintain their own power and wealth. I thought everybody believed this. Seriously, I believe that those with the money and the power work with each other to keep it. For example, during the Cold War the US supported various regimes in attempts to retain or gain power in various regions.The USSR did the same thing. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [October 27, 2012, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conspiracy-theorist/639012/29 "2012-10-27T21:27:33Z")
> [@Musicat](#): > > There are dozens of theories about 9/11 alone. You can’t believe them all, many are mutually incompatible (planes vs. no planes, for example). Which one(s) do you find the most credible, and why? There have been studies showing that conspiracy theorists have no problem believing contradictory theories [Contradictions Don't Deter Conspiracy Theorists | Live Science](http://www.livescience.com/18171-contradicting-conspiracy-theories-mistrust.html) “The more people were likely to endorse the idea Princess Diana was murdered, the more they were likely to believe that Princess Diana is alive,” ---
**Author:** ![Rich\_Mann](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ce73a5/32.png) [@Rich\_Mann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rich_Mann)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2012, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conspiracy-theorist/639012/30 "2012-10-28T04:26:38Z")
Seeing as how we haven’t heard from **Kozmik** in over 19 hours, I think we can safely assume that the Illuminati got to him. Any ideas about how to avenge him? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2012, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conspiracy-theorist/639012/31 "2012-10-28T04:38:01Z")
> [@Rich\_Mann](#): > > Seeing as how we haven’t heard from **Kozmik** in over 19 hours, I think we can safely assume that the Illuminati got to him. Any ideas about how to avenge him? We should start by ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2012, 5:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conspiracy-theorist/639012/32 "2012-10-28T05:15:42Z")
Agreed. Then follow up with ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2012, 10:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conspiracy-theorist/639012/33 "2012-10-28T10:44:51Z")
Hope he’s not butt-hurt. (Why don’t the ever lube those probes?) It’s almost as if they ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2012, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conspiracy-theorist/639012/34 "2012-10-28T11:26:43Z")
> [@dimmy\_derko](#): > > If they’d thought about it that much and maximum damage was the aim, they’d have chosen later flights when the buildings were more well populated. If you are gonna go to the effort, why wouldn’t you maximise damage? So… why didn’t the people you believe _actually_ carried out the attacks do that? And, given their apparent power and mastery of pretty much everything, including the natural human tendency to talk, why didn’t they also do something like release poison gas into the NYC subways or unleash a Captain Trips-level superbug using crop dusters over San Francisco? Hell, flying a plane into the Hoover Dam would have been a _wonderful_ example of Evil Conspiratorial Thinking. Why hasn’t anyone done _that_ yet? In short: That was a worthless question which proves nothing. Please try harder in the future. ---
**Author:** ![voltaire](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voltaire/32/313_2.png) [@voltaire](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/voltaire)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2012, 12:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conspiracy-theorist/639012/35 "2012-10-28T12:13:06Z")
> [@Andy\_L](#): > > There have been studies showing that conspiracy theorists have no problem believing contradictory theories [Contradictions Don't Deter Conspiracy Theorists | Live Science](http://www.livescience.com/18171-contradicting-conspiracy-theories-mistrust.html) > > “The more people were likely to endorse the idea Princess Diana was murdered, the more they were likely to believe that Princess Diana is alive,” Man, that article made my brain hurt trying to absorb how such cognitive dissonance is possible. It’s like those people are so paranoid of being fooled by shadowy forces out of their control, they prefer to fool themselves in order to at least be in control of their own fooling. They’re seemingly incapable of just withholding from drawing any conclusions due to lack of facts/evidence/knowledge. Instead, they prefer to draw multiple contradictory conclusions as a weird sort of all-bases-covered “insurance” against being fooled. ---
**Author:** ![Kozmik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/8dc957/32.png) [@Kozmik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kozmik)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2012, 1:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conspiracy-theorist/639012/36 "2012-10-28T13:09:42Z")
> [@Indian](#): > > Who got JFK killed? Ultimately, the Anarch. > [@Derleth](#): > > Why would that carry more weight than Osama bin Laden’s video claiming responsibility for the attacks? Because anybody could come out and claim responsibility for the attacks. I remember that some organization came out right after 9/11 and claimed responsibility but it was ruled out. > [@Derleth](#): > > So it seems that Osama bin Laden had calculations that slamming a large jet airliner into a skyscraper would, at the very least, cause massive structural damage and loss of life. For someone, the towers _must_ collapse. Remember that the 1993 World Trade Center bombing did not bring down the towers while the September 11 attacks, of course, did. > [@dnooman](#): > > Do you think the moon landing was faked? No. > [@dnooman](#): > > Do you think that building 7 I think.. was demolished by the US government on 9/11? Yes. > [@dnooman](#): > > For that matter do you think that every building fell on 9/11 due to US government plans? Yes. > [@dnooman](#): > > Thoughts on the Mayan 2012 end of days? We’ll see. > [@dnooman](#): > > Were you a huge fan of the X-files? Yes. > [@dnooman](#): > > Do you ever go to [beyondtopsecret.com](http://beyondtopsecret.com)? It sounds right up your alley. Not as often as SDMB. > [@dnooman](#): > > Do you think the US has an alien corpse anywhere? Yes. > [@dnooman](#): > > As a self-labeled “conspiracy theorist”, do you think that says that you are more informed than most, or just get more paranoid for good reason? I think that the “average man on the street” is more paranoid than me. I think that I am not necessarily more informed than most - I think that I have the _possibility_ of being more informed than most – a distinction that I am making for a reason. > [@Little\_Nemo](#): > > If these groups are inept enough to leave evidence of their existence lying around that single individuals can uncover, why is it that countries and investigative agencies and news media are unable to uncover the existence of these clandestine groups? Because they are in control they intentionally leave evidence that is just that - evidence. Evidence of evidence is what - nothing. It’s like the perfectionist that intentionally makes one mistake so that they know that that is the only mistake that they have made. > [@dimmy\_derko](#): > > If they’d thought about it that much and maximum damage was the aim, they’d have chosen later flights when the buildings were more well populated. If you are gonna go to the effort, why wouldn’t you maximise damage? Because it wasn’t about maximizing damage it was about maximizing viewership of damage. > [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](#): > > **Kozmik** –have you ever believed that you were being followed, watched or had your phone tapped, due to your beliefs? No. > [@An\_Gadai](#): > > Are there any popular conspiracy theories that you think are bull?? Yes, among many the most prominent being the moon landing hoax. > [@An\_Gadai](#): > > Do you have a college degree, and if so, in what discipline? Yes, an associate degree in pre-business. > [@An\_Gadai](#): > > Have you ever got into trouble over the theories you believe? Yes. > [@Loach](#): > > If the Illuminati are so all powerful and wide reaching so that they control every government and world leader, why do they allow you to expose them in a public forum? _Because_ they are so powerful. Also anonymity is a form of power. They will remain anonymous after this thread. And this _is_ the Straight Dope Message Board. > [@eclectic\_wench](#): > > What do you think about people who don’t believe in any conspiracy theories, or very few? They are like students who just read the textbook and don’t, in the journalistic sense, “check it out”. > [@eclectic\_wench](#): > > Both people who absolutely believe official versions of events (where you don’t), and people who are sceptical about some details of official versions but think that the basic outline is probably pretty much true? They are like people that rely on Wikipedia. Wikipedia is one place among many where the official stories are. > [@eclectic\_wench](#): > > Like, do you think they’re gullible sheeple, or do you see where they’re coming from but disagree? I can see where they are coming from. I wish that they would investigate more. > [@eclectic\_wench](#): > > Also, what do you think of people who believe conspiracy theories that you consider blatantly whacko? They mistake the forest for the trees. > [@eclectic\_wench](#): > > Have you ever changed your mind about a CT - started out by believing it, then read up on more evidence and decided you don’t believe it after all? There was a book from the 1970s. I can’t remember the name of the book. It claimed that the moon was a hollow satellite. I don’t believe that conspiracy theory anymore. > [@SenorBeef](#): > > can you see the sort of behavior that these people exhibit in believing what are, from your perspective, false and unfounded conspiracy theories? Can you see how they dismiss contradictory evidence as being part of the conspiracy? Or when someone corrects or debunks one particular point, rather than reflect on that, they simply keep moving on to the next point completely undeterred? In general, how they make unfounded leaps from point to point, connecting things that aren’t really connected, coming up with theories that strain plausibility, etc.? It strains plausibility when in the moon landing hoax or in the moon is hollow (that was a book from the 1970s that I remember reading, believing and dismissing) theories are looked at in isolation. For example, people that believe in the moon landing hoax don’t generally believe that Sputnik was a hoax. They go from point to point whereas I connect the dots. For example, most people know that NASA was created in response to Sputnik but most people (outside of the SDMB) don’t know that DARPA was also created in response to Sputnik. NASA, DARPA, the Roswell UFO Incident, the Manhattan Project, MK Ultra, HAARP. Now we’re on to something. > [@SenorBeef](#): > > Do you look at the people who believe that, for instance, heads of state are secretly lizard people as being kooky\*? Do you think that what seperates your conspiracy beliefs from theirs is simply the amount of evidence? Plausibility? Your own confidence in your intuitive gut feeling on the issue? I don’t necessarily look at people who believe that heads of state are secretly lizard people as being kooky. It’s not evidence that separates my conspiracy beliefs from theirs. It’s plausibility that separates my conspiracy beliefs from theirs. My intuitive gut feeling would not tell me that the Illuminati would be behind the heads of state, my intuitive gut feeling would tell me that, for example, they might be different than most humans. > [@SenorBeef](#): > > With them being sincerely convinced of something that you can tell is bullshit, can you see any of the same patterns in their behavior as you have in your behavior? Can you understand why someone would look at your 9/11 conspiracy theories in the same way that you might look at someone who was utterly convinced in lizard people? There are similar patterns of behavior, for example, those who believe that no planes were involved on 9/11 look at video evidence to support their conclusion just as those who believe the moon landing was a hoax look at photo evidence for their conclusion. > [@PlainJain](#): > > Do you believe the video in this OP is real? No. > [@PSXer](#): > > what do you think of Oliver Stone’s JFK It’s a good starting point for those who don’t believe in conspiracy theories. > [@Muffin](#): > > Do you have a job, and if so, what is it? Yes, I have a job. It’s a job that pays the bills. It’s a general business job. I am at very bottom of a very large corporation. > [@Muffin](#): > > Do you have a DSM-IV-TR disorder, and if so, what is it and how are you dealing with it? Not that I know of. I think I might have OCD. > [@Muffin](#): > > Do you have a spouse, and if so, how does that spouse deal with your being a conspiracy theorist? No. Funny you should ask that. Someone is interested in me (by interested in me I mean mutual communication). She is a Simpsons fan, among others things. She is a somewhat famous writer. I want her name to appear in the Simpsons credits. Because she is something of a comedian, she might be ok with that. > [@Muffin](#): > > What actions have you taken, or intend to take, to combat the conspirers? Post on the SDMB. Fighting ignorance and all that. > [@Muffin](#): > > Do you own a gun? No. > [@Ace309](#): > > You’ve mentioned that you read _The New York Times_ every day. Do you read _The Wall Street Journal_ at all, and if not, why not? I don’t read The Wall Street Journal because then it would take two hours out of my day. If I read NYT, WSJ and The Washington Post, then that would be three hours out of my day. So I read _The New York Times_ for approximately an hour every day and occasionally look at the other newspapers. > [@Jackmannii](#): > > For instance: what do you think about the theory that government is deliberately seeding the atomosphere with toxins (“chemtrails”) to make people sick? Are there conspiracies to cover up great dangers associated with aspartame sweetener and water fluoridation? Are Bill Gates and major corporations plotting to depopulate the world through vaccination? Are scientists and drug companies covering up the existence of cheap, safe, effective cures for chronic diseases and cancer? > > Do you find any of the above theories to be nonsense, or are all either substantially correct or reasonable theories worthy of investigation? They are all health related conspiracy theories and they are worthy of investigation. > [@Musicat](#): > > There are dozens of theories about 9/11 alone. You can’t believe them all, many are mutually incompatible (planes vs. no planes, for example). Which one(s) do you find the most credible, and why? > > Please describe what ones you find NOT credible, and why, too. I’ve got all day, so take your time. It will take me more than a day to answer this question. I will answer this question. > [@kayaker](#): > > If you believe what you do, explain why you are permitted to post about it? Because it’s the SDMB. > [@Derleth](#): > > So… why didn’t the people you believe _actually_ carried out the attacks do that? And, given their apparent power and mastery of pretty much everything, including the natural human tendency to talk, why didn’t they also do something like release poison gas into the NYC subways or unleash a Captain Trips-level superbug using crop dusters over San Francisco? Hell, flying a plane into the Hoover Dam would have been a _wonderful_ example of Evil Conspiratorial Thinking. Why hasn’t anyone done _that_ yet? I will also answer these questions even though they were not directed toward me. I have to go to work ---
**Author:** ![dimmy\_derko](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/43a26b/32.png) [@dimmy\_derko](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dimmy_derko)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2012, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conspiracy-theorist/639012/37 "2012-10-28T13:23:55Z")
> [@Derleth](#): > > So… why didn’t the people you believe _actually_ carried out the attacks do that? And, given their apparent power and mastery of pretty much everything, including the natural human tendency to talk, why didn’t they also do something like release poison gas into the NYC subways or unleash a Captain Trips-level superbug using crop dusters over San Francisco? Hell, flying a plane into the Hoover Dam would have been a _wonderful_ example of Evil Conspiratorial Thinking. Why hasn’t anyone done _that_ yet? They wanted people fearful and vengeful, but most of all, still useful, not totally overwhelmed by the horrors they were witnessing. > [@Derleth](#): > > In short: That was a worthless question which proves nothing. Please try harder in the future. Thanks for the constructive criticism. ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2012, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conspiracy-theorist/639012/38 "2012-10-28T13:43:01Z")
> [@dimmy\_derko](#): > > They wanted people fearful and vengeful, but most of all, still useful, not totally overwhelmed by the horrors they were witnessing. Are you saying that Americans are markedly more likely to become overwhelmed than the British? Because 9/11 was nothing compared to the Blitz, and the Brits weren’t overwhelmed. Hell, the Japanese were able to keep fighting and making the tools needed for war while their entire island group was methodically reduced to smoking ash, and that was _before_ the nukes. Ditto the Germans. And my god you must not know a damned thing about what the _Russians_ went through. Or the Chinese, especially in Manchuria. And yet most people kept on doing what they had to, or thought they had to, and even in the worst parts of that one war most of the governments didn’t collapse until their enemies had actually invaded pretty far into their homeland, and not even then if you’re talking about the Russians and the Chinese (well, to the extent the Chinese had a government then). So, yes, please take my advice and step this up a bit. My brain is mostly sleepy now and I can still see the major holes in your arguments. ---
**Author:** ![eclectic\_wench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ac91a4/32.png) [@eclectic\_wench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eclectic_wench)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2012, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conspiracy-theorist/639012/39 "2012-10-28T17:31:17Z")
Thanks - this is interesting. I don’t understand what you mean by saying you’re allowed to post about these conspiracies because ‘It’s the SDMB’. Do you mean that the SDMB has connections that make it too powerful for anyone who’s part of the conspiracies to have you censored or banned? Or that you’re allowed because no one takes the SDMB seriously, so the people in power don’t feel threatened by your exposing them here? Do you assume that any conspiracy theory you hear about is automatically worthy of investigation, or do you have a filtering process that means you can dismiss some outright and investigate others before you decide? If so, is it evidence-based (‘Well, there’s zero evidence for this person’s claim that Mitt Romney is actually made of doughnut holes, so I’m not going to put any thought into it’) or gut-based (‘It’s totally implausible that Mitt Romney would be made of doughnut holes, so I’m not going to put any thought into it’)? ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2012, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conspiracy-theorist/639012/40 "2012-10-28T18:06:18Z")
Someone needs to link to Kozmik’s Pit thread from several months ago. I’m too lazy to do it, but there’s like 20-30 pages of this stuff in it. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conspiracy-theorist/639012.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-conspiracy-theorist/639012.md?page=3)