# Ask the Creationist **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [May 12, 2005, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-creationist/303555 "2005-05-12T13:18:14Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Stone\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@Stone\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stone_Girl)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2005, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-creationist/303555/21 "2005-05-12T14:10:28Z")
> [@Powers](#): > > In what sense are you a creationist? In the sense that I believe God created the universe and the first organic matter. Other than that, God is a lazy bum who sat back and watched the show. ---
**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2005, 2:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-creationist/303555/22 "2005-05-12T14:10:59Z")
> [@Stone Girl](#): > > After reading all the recent discussions about creationism, I joined this board, and now I’m starting this thread. > > Yes, I’m a creationist. No, I’m not nutty. Though I don’t ascribe to your beliefs, I admire your courage at throwing _this_ gauntlet down _here_. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Dunderman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ecb155/32.png) [@Dunderman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dunderman)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2005, 2:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-creationist/303555/23 "2005-05-12T14:20:18Z")
> [@Stone Girl](#): > > In the sense that I believe God created the universe and the first organic matter. Other than that, God is a lazy bum who sat back and watched the show. Then I think “Ask the Deist” is the thread you want to start. I don’t think that view is controversial enough to generate a whole lot of questions, though. Sidebar: How do you think God feels about you calling him a “lazy bum”? ---
**Author:** ![Stone\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@Stone\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stone_Girl)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2005, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-creationist/303555/24 "2005-05-12T14:29:32Z")
Priceguy, any god who developed duck-billed platyouses has a sense of humor. Besides, I’m sure God has far more important things to worry about. Or maybe He took the Cosmic Nap. Who knows? ---
**Author:** ![Orbifold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@Orbifold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orbifold)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2005, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-creationist/303555/25 "2005-05-12T14:30:25Z")
What is your opinion concerning the teaching of evolution in science classes? More specifically, do you have any opinion about: [ul] [li]The latest Kansas State Department of Education hearings concerning revisions to their science standards?[/li][li]The Florida [“Academic Freedom Bill of Rights”](http://www.myfloridahouse.gov/bills_detail.aspx?Id=16495&) which, it has been suggested, will give students at Florida universities legal standing to sue if they do not learn about creationism in their biology classes?[/li][/ul] ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Borgia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/larry_borgia/32/156_2.png) [@Larry\_Borgia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Borgia)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2005, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-creationist/303555/26 "2005-05-12T14:31:52Z")
I agree with **Powers**. No scientific theory rules God out of the picture. Also, many theists accept evolution. The creation v. evolution “debate” is about whether Evolution is true. In other words whether Evolution is sufficient to explain the diversity and structure of living things. Creationists say it isn’t. Creationists run the gamut from Biblical literalists to Intelligent design theorists but all share the belief that natural selection does not explain the development of life on earth. If you think it does, then you are not a creationist, regardless of your belief in God. ---
**Author:** ![Stone\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@Stone\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stone_Girl)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2005, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-creationist/303555/27 "2005-05-12T14:33:47Z")
**Orbifold,** I have only one thing to say to the Kansas State Department of Education and the Florida “Academic Freedom Bill of Rights.” Pfffhhht. ---
**Author:** ![Stone\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@Stone\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stone_Girl)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2005, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-creationist/303555/28 "2005-05-12T14:37:36Z")
:smack: That should be platypuses. ---
**Author:** ![Orbifold](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@Orbifold](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orbifold)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2005, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-creationist/303555/29 "2005-05-12T14:53:34Z")
> [@Stone Girl](#): > > **Orbifold,** I have only one thing to say to the Kansas State Department of Education and the Florida “Academic Freedom Bill of Rights.” > > Pfffhhht. Then more power to you. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2005, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-creationist/303555/30 "2005-05-12T15:11:21Z")
> [@Stone Girl](#): > > :smack: That should be platypuses. Thanks for not saying ‘platypi’. ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2005, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-creationist/303555/31 "2005-05-12T15:16:02Z")
platypodes… ---
**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Call_Me_Shirley)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2005, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-creationist/303555/32 "2005-05-12T15:45:37Z")
Hi SG- Why do you believe in evolution? Is it because of all the evidence that supports it? If so, why do you not apply the same standards of evidence to your belief in god? ---
**Author:** ![Stone\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@Stone\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stone_Girl)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2005, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-creationist/303555/33 "2005-05-12T15:50:07Z")
> [@Douglas Quaid](#): > > Why do you believe in evolution? Is it because of all the evidence that supports it? > > If so, why do you not apply the same standards of evidence to your belief in god? Who ever said evolution and God were mutually exclusive? ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2005, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-creationist/303555/34 "2005-05-12T16:04:54Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > platypodes… Platypoda, I would think. ---
**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Call_Me_Shirley)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2005, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-creationist/303555/35 "2005-05-12T16:10:50Z")
Nobody here, that I have seen. Nor did I. I just asked a couple of questions. They weren’t trick questions, there was no hidden meaning, I’m just curious. I assume you believe in evolution because of the mountains of evidence in many diverse scientific fields. But you also believe in god, despite a complete lack of evidence in any scientific field. I’m just wondering how you reconcile this in your mind. ---
**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Call_Me_Shirley)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2005, 4:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-creationist/303555/36 "2005-05-12T16:12:36Z")
Nobody here, that I have seen. Nor did I. I just asked a couple of questions. They weren’t trick questions, there was no hidden meaning, I’m just curious. I assume you believe in evolution because of the mountains of evidence in many diverse scientific fields. But you also believe in god, despite a complete lack of evidence in any scientific field. I’m just wondering how you reconcile this in your mind. I’m not questioning the merits of either belief, just curious as to how you came to these two (non-mutually exclusive) beliefs from totally different directions. ---
**Author:** ![Stone\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e68b1a/32.png) [@Stone\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stone_Girl)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2005, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-creationist/303555/37 "2005-05-12T16:16:21Z")
> [@Douglas Quaid](#): > > Nobody here, that I have seen. Nor did I. I just asked a couple of questions. They weren’t trick questions, there was no hidden meaning, I’m just curious. I assume you believe in evolution because of the mountains of evidence in many diverse scientific fields. But you also believe in god, despite a complete lack of evidence in any scientific field. I’m just wondering how you reconcile this in your mind. I’m not questioning the merits of either belief, just curious as to how you came to these two (non-mutually exclusive) beliefs from totally different directions. As you said, there’s mountains of evidence for evolution. As to your other question, I can’t imagine NOT believing in God. The thought of not believing in God literally boggles my mind. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2005, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-creationist/303555/38 "2005-05-12T16:19:44Z")
> [@Stone Girl](#): > > Who ever said evolution and God were mutually exclusive? [Creationists](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creationism), of whom you are not (but that’s okay!) Not being a Creationist doesn’t mean you don’t believe in Divine Creation–simply that you don’t believe in divine creation as described in Genesis. > [@Wikipedia](#): > > While the term **creationism** describes the belief that God created the world and all life, **it is most often used for belief that this occurred literally as described in the book of Genesis** (for Jews and Christians) or literally as described in the Qur’an (for Muslims.) > > Theists believe that the universe and life was created by God. The idea could equally be applied by Deists, who believe that there was a God who originally created the universe, and that God then either ceased to actively interfere with its operation, or simply ceased to exist. Bolding mine, and some fluff removed for succinctity. ---
**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2005, 4:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-creationist/303555/39 "2005-05-12T16:24:48Z")
> [@Stone Girl](#): > > The thought of not believing in God literally boggles my mind. Tangental: It is similar to not believing in Santa Clause. So, on our part, it boggles the mind equally that you should continue to believe. …Just commenting because I have seen cases where people were mistakenly thinking atheist = “denier” rather than “non-believer.” ---
**Author:** ![Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ac8455/32.png) [@Bippy\_the\_Beardless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bippy_the_Beardless)\ **Post date:** [May 12, 2005, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-creationist/303555/40 "2005-05-12T16:25:57Z")
> [@Stone Girl](#): > > In the sense that I believe God created the universe and the first organic matter. Other than that, God is a lazy bum who sat back and watched the show. I don’t consider myself a creationist, but even I believe God stuck her fingers in the evolutionary pool a bit more than that 😉 Though I susspect the first organic matter occured by random on some distant planet many billions of years ago, and the life forms evolving were eventually advanced enough to seed the universe with organic matter, and the chances that our planet is the organic matter originator is so low as to be ignorable. Welcome {B}Stone Girl\*\* I think you kind of creationist beleif will fit very much within the normal variation of beleifs on SDMB. I’m sure the be-sainted **Poly** is at least as much a creationist as you are. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-creationist/303555.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-creationist/303555.md?page=3)