# Ask the guy on steroids

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-guy-on-steroids/235187>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [March 19, 2004, 12:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-guy-on-steroids/235187 "2004-03-19T12:12:44Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 19\
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**Author:** ![Eleusis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Eleusis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eleusis)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2004, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-guy-on-steroids/235187/21 "2004-03-20T17:57:48Z")

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> [@Gadfly](#):
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> (insert modal ontological proof that, yes, Hulk smash)

Given

~N(~g) It is possible that Hulk smash (premise)

Prove g

1. g → N(g) If Hulk smash in actuality, then it is necessary that Hulk smash (Law of Necessitation)
2. N(g) v ~N(g) Either it is necessary that Hulk smash, or else it is not (Law of Excluded Middle)
3. ~N(g) → N(~N(g)) If it is not necessary that Hulk smash, then it is necessary that it is not necessary that Hulk smash (Modal Axiom)
4. N(g) v N(~N(g)) Either it is necessary that Hulk smash or else it is necessary that Hulk necessarily does not smash (Disjunction on 2,3)
5. N(~N(g)) → N(~g) If it is necessary that Hulk necessarily does not smash, then it is necessary that Hulk does not smash. (Becker’s Postulate — necessity obtains)
6. N(g) v N(~g) Either it is necessary that Hulk smash, or else it is necessary that he does not. (Disjuntion 4,5)
7. N(g) It is necessary that Hulk smash (Law of Noncontradiction 6, premise)
8. N(g) → g If it is necessary that Hulk smash, then Hulk smash. (Law of Necessitation)

Conclusion:

g Hulk smash. (Modus Ponens 7,8)

QED

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**Author:** ![Ale](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@Ale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ale)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2004, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-guy-on-steroids/235187/22 "2004-03-20T19:37:26Z")

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> [@Eleusis](#):
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> Given
> 
> ~N(~g) It is possible that Hulk smash (premise)
> 
> Prove g
> 
> 1. g → N(g) If Hulk smash in actuality, then it is necessary that Hulk smash (Law of Necessitation)
> 2. N(g) v ~N(g) Either it is necessary that Hulk smash, or else it is not (Law of Excluded Middle)
> 3. ~N(g) → N(~N(g)) If it is not necessary that Hulk smash, then it is necessary that it is not necessary that Hulk smash (Modal Axiom)
> 4. N(g) v N(~N(g)) Either it is necessary that Hulk smash or else it is necessary that Hulk necessarily does not smash (Disjunction on 2,3)
> 5. N(~N(g)) → N(~g) If it is necessary that Hulk necessarily does not smash, then it is necessary that Hulk does not smash. (Becker’s Postulate — necessity obtains)
> 6. N(g) v N(~g) Either it is necessary that Hulk smash, or else it is necessary that he does not. (Disjuntion 4,5)
> 7. N(g) It is necessary that Hulk smash (Law of Noncontradiction 6, premise)
> 8. N(g) → g If it is necessary that Hulk smash, then Hulk smash. (Law of Necessitation)
> 
> Conclusion:
> 
> g Hulk smash. (Modus Ponens 7,8)
> 
> QED

So you´re on steroids too?

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**Author:** ![donkeyoatey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47c2d/32.png) [@donkeyoatey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/donkeyoatey)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2004, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-guy-on-steroids/235187/23 "2004-03-20T22:18:10Z")

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If you submit a truly magnificent post during these six days will you be offended if there is an asterisk attached to it?

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**Author:** ![Lynn\_Bodoni](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e47c2d/32.png) [@Lynn\_Bodoni](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lynn_Bodoni)\
**Post date:** [March 20, 2004, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-guy-on-steroids/235187/24 "2004-03-20T23:02:42Z")

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I’ve had to take some of those regimens myself. Can you say “feeding frenzy”? On the other hand, I managed to channel quite a bit of that energy into housework, which was to the good. And on the gripping hand, I’m pretty sure that the steroids tipped me from being a non-insulin dependent diabetic into an insulin-dependent diabetic. However, my choices were to either take steroids or not breathe. Since breathing is the very first item on my To-Do list, I chose to breathe.

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**Author:** ![dogbutler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dogbutler/32/428_2.png) [@dogbutler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dogbutler)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2004, 2:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-guy-on-steroids/235187/25 "2004-03-21T02:57:50Z")

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Been there done that.  
Stage 1:Energy of 10 men  
Stage 2:Energy of [Buffalo Bill](http://us.imdb.com/title/tt0102926/)  
Stage 3:Nervous breakdown

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**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2004, 12:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-guy-on-steroids/235187/26 "2004-03-21T12:15:32Z")

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Huh? testosterone is an anabolic steroid? I have been shooting myself with the stuff for year.

I thought it was a hormone. Shows you what I know.

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**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2004, 12:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-guy-on-steroids/235187/27 "2004-03-21T12:27:04Z")

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> [@Paul in Saudi](#):
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> Huh? testosterone is an anabolic steroid? I have been shooting myself with the stuff for year.
> 
> I thought it was a hormone. Shows you what I know.

Steroids _are_ hormones.

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**Author:** ![flamingbananas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f4b2a3/32.png) [@flamingbananas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/flamingbananas)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2004, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-guy-on-steroids/235187/28 "2004-03-21T23:01:25Z")

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Prednisone sucks. I have to take it a lot for my asthma. Bad part is that prednisone makes you gain weight. :rolleyes: . Still like Lynn said, breathing is first on my To-Do list.

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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2004, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-guy-on-steroids/235187/29 "2004-03-22T08:08:53Z")

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Is your wee-wee any smaller? any erectile disfunctions?

(Seriously)

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2004, 11:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-guy-on-steroids/235187/30 "2004-03-22T11:32:08Z")

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> [@Qadgop the Mercotan](#):
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> Which steroids? Anabolic (like testosterone)? Prednisone? Estrogen?

Prednisone. And let me join the chorus line of those who can’t believe how much they can eat. Eveything smells good and tastes good. Today is my last day of four dosages. Or was that yesterday? Damn, now I have to count the pills. Interesting thing is, today is my first day of PT and I’m pretty jazzed. It could be the percocets, too. Don’t know.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2004, 11:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-guy-on-steroids/235187/31 "2004-03-22T11:36:04Z")

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> [@SHAKES](#):
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> Is your wee-wee any smaller? any erectile disfunctions?
> 
> (Seriously)

Never having measured my wee-wee, I don’t know about the first question, but the second question is sometimes yes, sometimes no. There are peaks and valleys. I am noticing a sort of dependency, though, which surprises me. I’ve gotten to the point where I can’t wait to take another pill, and yet my weaning has already begun. My wife says that they changed my personality considerably. More assertive. Less melancholy.

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**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2004, 12:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-guy-on-steroids/235187/32 "2004-03-22T12:24:46Z")

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Massive Ed here, and loss of sex drive.

On the other hand, all this come around about same time Bob Dole invented Viagra. So I am a lucky guy.

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**Author:** ![Mama\_Zappa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/71e660/32.png) [@Mama\_Zappa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mama_Zappa)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2004, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-guy-on-steroids/235187/33 "2004-03-22T22:19:47Z")

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Fun stuff 😮

I’ve been on pred a few times for the asthma (like others, breathing is pretty high on my to-do list). And let me tell you, when Mama’s got roids, Mama’s got happy lungs!

But Mama doesn’t got happy tummy when Mama’s got 'roids. I learned the hard way that you should not eat leftover pizza for breakfast, then get stuck somewhere for 6 hours, far from the nearest bottle of Tums. :smack: You might seriously want to invest in some Prilosec, or Zantac or whatever is safe for you to take.

Either that, or mass quantities of ice cream 😃

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**Author:** ![beckwall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b487fb/32.png) [@beckwall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beckwall)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-guy-on-steroids/235187/34 "2004-03-23T00:05:22Z")

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I had to take Prednisone once for an inflammatory disorder. It was during the time that I was in school to become a massage therapist. As you might imagine, no one wanted me to practice on them because I was LOONY and rough to boot.  
I had terrible nightmares, almost hallucinations. I didn’t sleep, and I did get the wild-eyed look about me, too. I don’t remember being hungry.

It was just awful. Not sure if I would take it again, unless it was a similar situation to Lynn’s, where I had to choose between breathing and not breathing.

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**Author:** ![Governor\_Quinn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d26b3c/32.png) [@Governor\_Quinn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Governor_Quinn)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-guy-on-steroids/235187/35 "2004-03-23T00:20:22Z")

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Do you desire to play Major League Baseball, by any chance?

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-guy-on-steroids/235187/36 "2004-03-23T11:02:58Z")

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Not any more. My weaning has begun. Today, I am allowed only two of the precious and beautiful little pills. […sigh…] Strange thing, though, the hunger. I recall from my hippie days that speed suppressed my urge to eat. These things make me buzz like speed but eat like a horse.

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**Author:** ![Idlewild](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8491ac/32.png) [@Idlewild](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idlewild)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 12:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-guy-on-steroids/235187/37 "2004-03-23T12:07:47Z")

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I’ve used inhaled steroids for asthma - but my asthma is generally very mild so I only did that the first winter we moved to a cold climate. It wasn’t bad, the inhaled steroids have fewer side effects than some other forms of steroid treatment (because you don’t absorb much of the drug, I gather, per my pharmacist and doctor), but I just wasn’t keen at all on being on them long term, no matter what the clinical data say. I’m a wuss. While I am grateful that they’ve advanced asthma treatment along from albuterol, I’m still fortunate enough that I can pick and choose how much medication I want to be on. (Breathing is high on my priority list too. Funny that! It’s terribly scary when your lungs aren’t doing the right thing.)

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**Author:** ![JoeSki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/b487fb/32.png) [@JoeSki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JoeSki)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-guy-on-steroids/235187/38 "2004-03-23T14:42:00Z")

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> [@JoeSki](#):
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> Are you more tolerant of pain, or do you find being able to tolerate pain more satisfying than usual?

I’m going to hold my breath untill this question is answered! :mad:

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2004, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-guy-on-steroids/235187/39 "2004-03-23T15:23:09Z")

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Gosh, sorry I missed that. That’s a great queston. I don’t think it’s a matter of tolerance. For some reason, on that first day of massive dosage, I looked at pain as a badge of honor. I didn’t want to tolerate it; I wanted to feel it.

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