# Ask the guy raised in an Orgone-energy-believing household **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [April 4, 2003, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-guy-raised-in-an-orgone-energy-believing-household/166466 "2003-04-04T15:15:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![get\_lives](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@get\_lives](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/get_lives)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2015, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-guy-raised-in-an-orgone-energy-believing-household/166466/41 "2015-04-08T21:31:22Z")
> [@DocCathode](#): > > Yes there is. > > What exactly do you mean by “good bodywork stuff”? > > Acupuncture has been disproven\*. No evidence for the Chi of China or Prana of India has been found. > > - In studies,sticking needles in places that ancient charts say will help does help a little. Sticking needles in random places helps the same degree. The existence of trigger points is absolutely supported by good science. They generally show up in the middle of a muscle belly, and are in the same locations on everyone. They’ve been used and taught for decades in accredited massage schools in the US, and for several thousand years in India, China, and the surrounding countries. They do have a very high correlation with the acupuncture points, but you don’t have to believe in chi to use trigger points. The most common way of treating them is to massage them if they are sore, and they tend to be more sore in people with poor posture. Poor posture is much more common in people undergoing emotional problems, and so there is some support for the general concept of massaging specific points to treat emotional issues. But, with that said, I don’t think you have the slightest interest in these topics, and are treating this thread the way some religious fundamentalists would treat a thread on gay marriage. Besides, trigger points, massage therapy, bodywork, and postural work are only very loosely related to the OP’s topic of choice. I’d tell you to start another thread if you want to discuss it further, but like I said, I don’t think you have nearly enough interest in the topic to discuss it at length. ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2015, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-guy-raised-in-an-orgone-energy-believing-household/166466/42 "2015-04-08T21:42:26Z")
> [@get\_lives](#): > > The existence of trigger points is absolutely supported by good science. That depends on what exactly, precisely and in detail you mean by “trigger points”. What exactly, precisely and in detail do YOU mean by “trigger points”? ---
**Author:** ![get\_lives](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ecb155/32.png) [@get\_lives](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/get_lives)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2015, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-guy-raised-in-an-orgone-energy-believing-household/166466/43 "2015-04-08T21:52:05Z")
> [@DocCathode](#): > > That depends on what exactly, precisely and in detail you mean by “trigger points”. What exactly, precisely and in detail do YOU mean by “trigger points”? What did I just tell you about starting another thread? Hmm? Hmm? ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2015, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-guy-raised-in-an-orgone-energy-believing-household/166466/44 "2015-04-09T05:49:22Z")
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**Author:** ![RunSilent](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e0b2c6/32.png) [@RunSilent](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RunSilent)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2015, 12:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-guy-raised-in-an-orgone-energy-believing-household/166466/45 "2015-04-09T12:58:09Z")
Did anyone in your family benefit from your orgone energy accumulator box? Were any health problems alleviated? Did anyone feel more “energetic” after a session in the box? ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2015, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-guy-raised-in-an-orgone-energy-believing-household/166466/46 "2015-04-09T13:26:09Z")
I can believe that going around with a “PVC pipe contraption” on your head will promote intense energy fluctuations - deriving from suppressed laughter from the people around you. ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [April 9, 2015, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-guy-raised-in-an-orgone-energy-believing-household/166466/47 "2015-04-09T21:37:36Z")
**Get Lives** I have started the other thread in which to discuss armoring and such. [Here it is](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=754041) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-guy-raised-in-an-orgone-energy-believing-household/166466.md?page=2)