# Ask the guy who engaged in adult behaviors and got beatdowns in middleschool & Didn't feel bullied. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [June 9, 2011, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-guy-who-engaged-in-adult-behaviors-and-got-beatdowns-in-middleschool-didnt-feel-bullied/584857 "2011-06-09T15:26:46Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![lindsaybluth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/90db22/32.png) [@lindsaybluth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lindsaybluth)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-guy-who-engaged-in-adult-behaviors-and-got-beatdowns-in-middleschool-didnt-feel-bullied/584857/21 "2011-06-09T18:07:38Z")
> [@gurujulp](#): > > Any further questions? What drugs do you do today? In what quantities? Do you have a college degree? If so, in what? What’s your current occupation (or, if you were laid off in the recession, what did you do previously)? How long have you held your job? Have you ever been fired for insubordination? Have you ever been fired (not laid off or downsized, outright fired Are you married? In a serious, long term and stable relationship? Have children? Born in wedlock or out of it? ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-guy-who-engaged-in-adult-behaviors-and-got-beatdowns-in-middleschool-didnt-feel-bullied/584857/22 "2011-06-09T18:11:41Z")
Is that really “adult” behavior or just risky and/or trashy behavior? I’m an adult and aside from the sex and occasional drink, most of this behavior doesn’t sound like anything I’m ever likely to get involved in. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-guy-who-engaged-in-adult-behaviors-and-got-beatdowns-in-middleschool-didnt-feel-bullied/584857/23 "2011-06-09T18:24:21Z")
> [@jz78817](#): > > what % of this thread is made up as a troll? If you wish to accuse someone of trolling, do so in the Pit. No warning issued. **twickster** , MPSIMS moderator ---
**Author:** ![Thudlow\_Boink](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thudlow_boink/32/320_2.png) [@Thudlow\_Boink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Thudlow_Boink)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-guy-who-engaged-in-adult-behaviors-and-got-beatdowns-in-middleschool-didnt-feel-bullied/584857/24 "2011-06-09T19:00:14Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > I’m an adult and aside from the sex and occasional drink, most of this behavior doesn’t sound like anything I’m ever likely to get involved in. Indeed, what the OP describes certainly doesn’t sound like “the adult world” as **I** understand it. ---
**Author:** ![gurujulp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ba9def/32.png) [@gurujulp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gurujulp)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-guy-who-engaged-in-adult-behaviors-and-got-beatdowns-in-middleschool-didnt-feel-bullied/584857/25 "2011-06-09T19:13:52Z")
> [@lindsaybluth](#): > > What drugs do you do today? In what quantities? > > Do you have a college degree? If so, in what? What’s your current occupation (or, if you were laid off in the recession, what did you do previously)? How long have you held your job? Have you ever been fired for insubordination? Have you ever been fired (not laid off or downsized, outright fired > > Are you married? In a serious, long term and stable relationship? Have children? Born in wedlock or out of it? I do not do illegal drugs- I am however currently undergoing treatment and possible surgical procedures for back issues, and part of the treatment is opiate medication. I do not have a degree, but I have some college and quite a large amount of course auditing and self education. I am usually the go-to guy for obscure data and computer help. I have been in my current bureaucratic government job for nearly 10 years. I have never been fired- I was let go from the first management position I held at age 20 right before the probationary period ended because I was completely unqualified for the job, and probably should have resigned it. I have been married. It ended badly due to drug use, but not mine. I am the fully custodial parent of my child and I currently am engaged and we are pregnant. I was born out of wedlock. My child was born in wedlock. That doesn’t really matter to me… I am not sure what will happen with the new child, but both were very very planned. > [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > Is that really “adult” behavior or just risky and/or trashy behavior? I’m an adult and aside from the sex and occasional drink, most of this behavior doesn’t sound like anything I’m ever likely to get involved in. True. Most of the people I know have done many of these things as adults, but YMMV. I would call it risky \*\*adult \*\*behavior due to the risks, knowledge aforethought, etc. I also at that age was a vigorous campaigner for lowering the voting age to 16, which I no longer agree with. > [@twickster](#): > > If you wish to accuse someone of trolling, do so in the Pit. > > No warning issued. > > **twickster** , MPSIMS moderator I thought it was a reasonable question, and took no offense. Thanks for not making it a warning. > [@Thudlow\_Boink](#): > > Indeed, what the OP describes certainly doesn’t sound like “the adult world” as **I** understand it. See my earlier comment, but I completely understand. ---
**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-guy-who-engaged-in-adult-behaviors-and-got-beatdowns-in-middleschool-didnt-feel-bullied/584857/26 "2011-06-09T19:15:14Z")
Sounds like it might be Terelle Pryor’s world. “_Not everybody’s the perfect person in the world. I mean everyone kills people, murders people, steals from you, steals from me, whatever._” ---
**Author:** ![Rachellelogram](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rachellelogram/32/8689_2.png) [@Rachellelogram](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rachellelogram)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-guy-who-engaged-in-adult-behaviors-and-got-beatdowns-in-middleschool-didnt-feel-bullied/584857/27 "2011-06-09T19:39:39Z")
How did you get a government job with your history? Do you have any security clearance? Would you be able to get it if you needed to, since that was all juvenile stuff? ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-guy-who-engaged-in-adult-behaviors-and-got-beatdowns-in-middleschool-didnt-feel-bullied/584857/28 "2011-06-09T19:59:19Z")
> [@gurujulp](#): > > My step-siblings went to Alief middle- when the younger was 12 in 1997 she told about someone pimping out a girl in the restroom for $0.50 a shot, with a line around the end of the hall. > > Sounds like things changed a bit. > > My dad lives right near the donut place on bellaire a few blocks past Wilcrest. > > I wonder how many degrees of separation we have… Yeah, that’s about 10 years after I was there… when I was there, it was about 50% white students, and about 20% Asian, 15% Black and 15% Hispanic, and was a solidly middle class school. I get the impression it’s not like that at all anymore. I’d bet we know at least one person in common; I went to Texas A&M after Jesuit and was in the honors dorm, where we had a pretty good Bellaire HS contingent in 1991 and in 1992. ---
**Author:** ![gurujulp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ba9def/32.png) [@gurujulp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gurujulp)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-guy-who-engaged-in-adult-behaviors-and-got-beatdowns-in-middleschool-didnt-feel-bullied/584857/29 "2011-06-09T20:09:59Z")
> [@rachelellogram](#): > > How did you get a government job with your history? Do you have any security clearance? Would you be able to get it if you needed to, since that was all juvenile stuff? I have never been convicted of anything, except once having a glass bottle of applejuice in a public park. Plus, while I am always honest about my past, there are very few times people ask me questions in interviews where any of this information would be relevant. Most government jobs just want you to be honest- and to pass a lie detector based on what you have told them… Although I understand I would be denied some security clearances based on past drug use, that isn’t an issue for me. Not that type of government job. ---
**Author:** ![treis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@treis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/treis)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-guy-who-engaged-in-adult-behaviors-and-got-beatdowns-in-middleschool-didnt-feel-bullied/584857/30 "2011-06-09T20:17:46Z")
> [@gurujulp](#): > > Everyone but me was also extremely sexually active- I waited until I was 16. This doesn’t jive with factual data. > [@](#): > > Despite a wide range in the chronological age at occurrence of the first conscious ejaculation, the mean bone age in all groups, including that with delayed puberty, was 13 1/2 +/- 1/2 years (SD), with a range between 12 1/2-15 1/2 years. There was no correlation between the age at first ejaculation and testicular volume, pubic hair or penis length. It is proposed that the age at the first conscious ejaculation be used as an index of maturation in male puberty. The average kid isn’t physically able to ejaculate until late 8th grade. Obviously there will be some outliers, but the idea that everyone in a middle school was extremely sexual active is ridiculous. Everything else in your post is either wildly exaggerated or you went to the most fucked up middle school ever. Either way, the typical middle school activities do not include kids getting nailed by 4 inch ball bearings, crack use, or widespread alcohol/pot use. Even if it did, it doesn’t make those kids adults. Their brains are still nowhere near fully developed, and they lack the higher reasoning, empathy, foresight, and emotional control of adults. ---
**Author:** ![gurujulp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ba9def/32.png) [@gurujulp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gurujulp)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-guy-who-engaged-in-adult-behaviors-and-got-beatdowns-in-middleschool-didnt-feel-bullied/584857/31 "2011-06-09T20:29:47Z")
> [@treis](#): > > This doesn’t jive with factual data. > > The average kid isn’t physically able to ejaculate until late 8th grade. Obviously there will be some outliers, but the idea that everyone in a middle school was extremely sexual active is ridiculous. > > Everything else in your post is either wildly exaggerated or you went to the most fucked up middle school ever. Either way, the typical middle school activities do not include kids getting nailed by 4 inch ball bearings, crack use, or widespread alcohol/pot use. > > Even if it did, it doesn’t make those kids adults. Their brains are still nowhere near fully developed, and they lack the higher reasoning, empathy, foresight, and emotional control of adults. Huh? The first time I ejaculated was in 5th grade- elementary school. I had been masturbating since I was six, and was pissed off when it started getting messy! And I know the ‘typical’ will not describe my experience. I wouldn’t have started this thread if it did… Oh, and, uh, lacking those traits was why we did that stupid shit. ---
**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-guy-who-engaged-in-adult-behaviors-and-got-beatdowns-in-middleschool-didnt-feel-bullied/584857/32 "2011-06-09T21:46:31Z")
> [@gurujulp](#): > > I had been masturbating since I was six, and was pissed off when it started getting messy! Let me guess, your parents said it was okay, just don’t start until you are in high school, and you said, “like hell!”. ---
**Author:** ![gurujulp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ba9def/32.png) [@gurujulp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gurujulp)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-guy-who-engaged-in-adult-behaviors-and-got-beatdowns-in-middleschool-didnt-feel-bullied/584857/33 "2011-06-09T21:51:29Z")
> [@Omar\_Little](#): > > Let me guess, your parents said it was okay, just don’t start until you are in high school, and you said, “like hell!”. My dad attempted to talk to me about sex when I was 11, and gave me the ‘Our Bodies, etc…’ after he found a stash of playboys, penthouses, and a whole box of reel to reel porn I had stashed in my room. I was too embarrassed to discuss it with him, but I read it cover to cover… My mom just referred to having thought that ‘The Blessed Event’ had occurred after I made reference to it sometime after it came up in conversation when I was around 17. She also disposed of quite a lot of porn over time, but she stopped after that. ---
**Author:** ![msmith537](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/d9b06d/32.png) [@msmith537](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/msmith537)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-guy-who-engaged-in-adult-behaviors-and-got-beatdowns-in-middleschool-didnt-feel-bullied/584857/34 "2011-06-09T21:52:31Z")
What? You guys never got all cracked up and had a ball-bearing fight? ---
**Author:** ![gurujulp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/ba9def/32.png) [@gurujulp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gurujulp)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-guy-who-engaged-in-adult-behaviors-and-got-beatdowns-in-middleschool-didnt-feel-bullied/584857/35 "2011-06-09T21:54:52Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > What? You guys never got all cracked up and had a ball-bearing fight? 😃 Awesome. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-guy-who-engaged-in-adult-behaviors-and-got-beatdowns-in-middleschool-didnt-feel-bullied/584857/36 "2011-06-09T21:56:05Z")
> [@msmith537](#): > > What? You guys never got all cracked up and had a ball-bearing fight? That’s so elementary school. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2011, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-guy-who-engaged-in-adult-behaviors-and-got-beatdowns-in-middleschool-didnt-feel-bullied/584857/37 "2011-06-09T22:04:54Z")
> [@gurujulp](#): > > The first time I ejaculated was in 5th grade- elementary school. I had been masturbating since I was six And boy, was your arm tired! ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2011, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-guy-who-engaged-in-adult-behaviors-and-got-beatdowns-in-middleschool-didnt-feel-bullied/584857/38 "2011-06-10T00:11:51Z")
> [@gurujulp](#): > > I am the fully custodial parent of my child and I currently am engaged and **we are pregnant.**. How is babby formed? ---
**Author:** ![treis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bc79bd/32.png) [@treis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/treis)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2011, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-guy-who-engaged-in-adult-behaviors-and-got-beatdowns-in-middleschool-didnt-feel-bullied/584857/39 "2011-06-10T00:39:35Z")
> [@gurujulp](#): > > Huh? The first time I ejaculated was in 5th grade- elementary school. I had been masturbating since I was six, and was pissed off when it started getting messy! > > And I know the ‘typical’ will not describe my experience. I wouldn’t have started this thread if it did… > > Oh, and, uh, lacking those traits was why we did that stupid shit. Being able to ejaculate in 5th grade puts you way, way out of the norm. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [June 10, 2011, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-guy-who-engaged-in-adult-behaviors-and-got-beatdowns-in-middleschool-didnt-feel-bullied/584857/40 "2011-06-10T00:40:29Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > And boy, was your arm tired! And he was a little chafed by that point, too. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-guy-who-engaged-in-adult-behaviors-and-got-beatdowns-in-middleschool-didnt-feel-bullied/584857.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-guy-who-engaged-in-adult-behaviors-and-got-beatdowns-in-middleschool-didnt-feel-bullied/584857.md?page=3)