Ask the guy who just finished writing a book.

OK. Vanity publishing is where you hand your book over to a vanity press who print the book and do nothing else. They may promise you the world but in general you end up with a garage full of poor quality books. The book is ‘published’ in the loosest sense of the word by the vanity press. The writer pays the vanity press to turn their m/s into a ‘book’. A vanity press often sends a glowing letter and asks the writer for money. They will promise promotion but don’t do it. They make their money from the writer, not from book sales.

Self publishing is where the writer writes, edits and proofs the book. They may pay a professional editor to do the editing and proofing for them. Then they organise a cover and layout and send the book off to a printer. There’s no ego stroking involved <G>. Some self published books are of very high quality, some are not. Some will be picked up by a distributor and some will be sold (or not) by the author.

At the moment we’re selfpublishing a book in partnership with a NZ tramping club. It’s a YA novel about tramping safety which didn’t find a publisher but someone from the tramping club read it in ms and decided to talk to us about publishing it. The market is tramping clubs and school libraries. We’ve done the editing and proofing and my SO is doing the cover. Someone else is laying the book out in pagemaker and then we send it to the printer. Sir Edmund Hillary (yay!) wrote a foreword.

Can you see the difference? If that book were being vanity published we’d just send it off with a cheque to someone like Minerva Press. This book might or might not get reviewed – a book published by Minerva most emphatically would not be reviewed anywhere reputable.

Ah, yeah, I see what you mean. Same basic idea, different levels of quality when doing business.

Slutty behavior != Tramping = Hiking?

Ummmm.

OK.

Do you guys not use the word ‘tramping’? Yes, it’s equivalent to hiking.

SandyHook, Assuming that your manuscript is on your computer, why don’t you put up the first chapter online ?

There are plenty of writer’s blogs out there where you can get critiques ? (constructive or otherwise)

I’ve never heard that term before, and if I did, I’d think it was the same as “hooking” or “whoreing”.

I thought this thread had died a peacefull death yesterday. Glad to see it’s back to life. Dast I dream it will make it to a second page, it’s already the longest or the 5 threads I’ve started.

Gyan9, I guess I’m a little leary of letting too many people have access to even parts of it. You know a lot of the folks out there aren’t as nice and law abiding as you and I. And frankly I have my doubts about you sometimes.

I could stick up a couple or three chapters I suppose. See what the average Joe on the boards think.

I’ll give it some thought. Let you know if I do.