# Ask the Left-Wing Alt-Right Prick **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 26, 2017, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-left-wing-alt-right-prick/797383 "2017-09-26T23:59:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 7
**Author:** ![JohnnyMac](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@JohnnyMac](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnnyMac)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-left-wing-alt-right-prick/797383/121 "2017-09-27T20:27:07Z")
> [@JohnnyMac](#): > > It’s my experience, yes. > > Sent from my SM-A300FU using Tapatalk I should have added - it’s not universally agreed, and as the terms are relatively new I expect definitions will continue to evolve. But IME most people use trans more inclusively than just non-cis binary male/female identities. Sent from my SM-A300FU using Tapatalk ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-left-wing-alt-right-prick/797383/122 "2017-09-27T20:29:22Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > People should be able to be whatever they feel they are. I feel I am a god. Worship me!!! ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-left-wing-alt-right-prick/797383/123 "2017-09-27T20:31:33Z")
> [@JohnnyMac](#): > > I should have added - it’s not universally agreed, and as the terms are relatively new I expect definitions will continue to evolve. But IME most people use trans more inclusively than just non-cis binary male/female identities. > > Sent from my SM-A300FU using Tapatalk As I said, I’ve read differently, but that’s cool. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-left-wing-alt-right-prick/797383/124 "2017-09-27T20:32:36Z")
> [@begbert2](#): > > I feel I am a god. Worship me!!! Got any miracles you can perform? I only worship miracle-performing gods. You are free to be the best god you can be though! ---
**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-left-wing-alt-right-prick/797383/125 "2017-09-27T20:37:52Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > The only position I’ve put forth is “Don’t call me cisgender” Do you not want people to call you cisgender because you are not “a person whose sense of personal identity and gender corresponds with their birth sex”? > [@](#): > > As for direct answer - I was under the impression that there were people who were neither cisgender nor transgender. Gender fluid comes to mind, among others. If that’s wrong, then someone can correct me. I don’t know where gender fluidity fits in the nomenclature. Like I said, maybe it’s a 3rd category all its own. If it’s all a spectrum, and a complicated one at that, maybe there are even other useful gender breakdowns. Heck, at a micro-level, each of us experience our gender uniquely, and even two cis men might have really divergent senses of what it feels like to be their gender (just as each of us has a unique sense of what it is to be our own selves). > [@](#): > > As for anything else, I’ll call people whatever they want to be called. I no more care about someone’s gender than I do about their sex, orientation, marital status, skin color, heritage, or whatever. People should be treated as people. Consenting adults should be allowed to do anything that doesn’t hurt others. People should be able to be whatever they feel they are. It’s not hard, really. I do think, again, that there are functional uses for the terms cisgender and transgender. They describe real people. Maybe the binary is a broken way to describe it (after all, male/female itself turns out to be broken in many ways), but if the definition for either doesn’t apply to (the general) you, then stand up and argue for a third (or fourth or fifth) gender to be acknowledged. ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 8:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-left-wing-alt-right-prick/797383/126 "2017-09-27T20:40:35Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > Got any miracles you can perform? I only worship miracle-performing gods. You are free to be the best god you can be though! At the moment the one miracle I’d like to do would be to murder this tedious argument over definitions and get the OP (or any red-piller, honestly) to answer my question in [post #53](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20502792&postcount=53). Because I’m honestly curious whether I could get an answer that wouldn’t sound self-incriminatingly stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-left-wing-alt-right-prick/797383/127 "2017-09-27T20:43:24Z")
> [@Eonwe](#): > > Do you not want people to call you cisgender because you are not “a person whose sense of personal identity and gender corresponds with their birth sex”? I wasn’t aware that I needed to explain why I don’t want to be called something, simply the fact that I don’t want to be called it. Has that standard changed? > [@](#): > > I do think, again, that there are functional uses for the terms cisgender and transgender. They describe real people. Maybe the binary is a broken way to describe it (after all, male/female itself turns out to be broken in many ways), but if the definition for either doesn’t apply to (the general) you, then stand up and argue for a third (or fourth or fifth) gender to be acknowledged. I’m sure there are a great many uses for the terms, and other terms as well, and others are free to use them or any other ones as much as needed or wanted. I simply ask to not refer to me as cisgender. If for some unknown reason that my gender identity is relevant, I refer to myself as gender-typical. Use that if you must. I do not wish to force others to use that term to describe anyone else but me. Should not be too difficult. ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-left-wing-alt-right-prick/797383/128 "2017-09-27T20:44:30Z")
> [@begbert2](#): > > At the moment the one miracle I’d like to do would be to murder this tedious argument over definitions and get the OP (or any red-piller, honestly) to answer my question in [post #53](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20502792&postcount=53). Because I’m honestly curious whether I could get an answer that wouldn’t sound self-incriminatingly stupid. That might be tough. Maybe start with something easier, like parting Lake Erie or something. ---
**Author:** ![k9bfriender](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/k9bfriender/32/3283_2.png) [@k9bfriender](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/k9bfriender)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-left-wing-alt-right-prick/797383/129 "2017-09-27T21:06:17Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > I wasn’t aware that I needed to explain why I don’t want to be called something, simply the fact that I don’t want to be called it. Has that standard changed? Who has called you cisgendered? If you do not want to be called cisgendered, that’s fine. No one is going to do so. But you aren’t happy enough with that, for some reason. You continue to argue about the word, even after everyone has told you that they have no desire nor inclination to call you by that. > [@](#): > > I’m sure there are a great many uses for the terms, and other terms as well, and others are free to use them or any other ones as much as needed or wanted. I simply ask to not refer to me as cisgender. If for some unknown reason that my gender identity is relevant, I refer to myself as gender-typical. Use that if you must. I do not wish to force others to use that term to describe anyone else but me. Should not be too difficult. That’s alot of words for something that you don’t care about, you pentadactyl. ---
**Author:** ![Eonwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eonwe/32/240_2.png) [@Eonwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eonwe)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-left-wing-alt-right-prick/797383/130 "2017-09-27T21:14:05Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > I wasn’t aware that I needed to explain why I don’t want to be called something, simply the fact that I don’t want to be called it. Has that standard changed? That’s not a thing. I will describe you, or anyone else, as dark-haired, short, tall, black, white, African-American, football fan, birder, trekkie, or whatever else is an appropriate and accurate word. If you don’t like it, but it’s what you are, I don’t know what to tell you. I’ll maybe try to not use the word to your face, but if the adjective is accurate, I’ll have no qualms about using it to describe you when appropriate and useful. There is a fundamental difference between not wanting to be called something that doesn’t describe you, and not wanting to be called something that does describe you. > [@](#): > > I’m sure there are a great many uses for the terms, and other terms as well, and others are free to use them or any other ones as much as needed or wanted. I simply ask to not refer to me as cisgender. If for some unknown reason that my gender identity is relevant, I refer to myself as gender-typical. Use that if you must. I do not wish to force others to use that term to describe anyone else but me. Should not be too difficult. Great! I’ll call you gender-typical. But I’ll also include you when I talk about cisgendered people, because, as far as I can tell, there is nothing about the meaning of that word that does not apply to you. If someone asks, “is **manson1972** cisgendered?” I’ll answer “yes, though he prefers to be called gender-typical.” ---
**Author:** ![begbert2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/begbert2/32/3357_2.png) [@begbert2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/begbert2)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-left-wing-alt-right-prick/797383/131 "2017-09-27T21:15:42Z")
To be fair to him, _I_ called him cisgendered. Under protest, because I hate the word, but if the shoe fits… ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-left-wing-alt-right-prick/797383/132 "2017-09-27T23:21:22Z")
> [@Eonwe](#): > > If someone asks, “is **manson1972** cisgendered?” I’ll answer “yes, though he prefers to be called gender-typical.” You are my favorite poster now 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-left-wing-alt-right-prick/797383/133 "2017-09-27T23:28:21Z")
> [@Zeke\_N.Destroi](#): > > So, despite being just slightly right of west a lot of my views seem to be alt-right. alt right??? Really??? That’s a hell of a way to start a thread. Personally, I hate the alt right and what they represent. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-left-wing-alt-right-prick/797383/134 "2017-09-27T23:29:49Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > It’s better than the stupid recipes that people were doing in the past. 🙂 Hey waitaminnit! Some of them were pretty good! ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-left-wing-alt-right-prick/797383/135 "2017-09-27T23:32:55Z")
> [@k9bfriender](#): > > That’s alot of words for something that you don’t care about, you pentadactyl. I TOLD you I prefer quinquedigitate! ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-left-wing-alt-right-prick/797383/136 "2017-09-27T23:34:10Z")
> [@SteveG1](#): > > alt right??? > > Really??? > > That’s a hell of a way to start a thread. Personally, I hate the alt right and what they represent. I hate alt tab. I mean, who picked THAT to switch windows?? ammirite? ---
**Author:** ![Steophan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steophan/32/9595_2.png) [@Steophan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steophan)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-left-wing-alt-right-prick/797383/137 "2017-09-27T23:47:52Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > I hate alt tab. I mean, who picked THAT to switch windows?? ammirite? I’ve never needed to switch, I’m ciswindowed. ---
**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\ **Post date:** [September 27, 2017, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-left-wing-alt-right-prick/797383/138 "2017-09-27T23:55:10Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > You can’t be left-wing alt-right. I think you _can_, but it requires walking a pretty narrow tightrope. For instance, supporting free and easy access to abortion with racial motives in mind, because many women who get abortions are black, and so abortion suppresses the black population, a form of indirect eugenics. Or maybe pro-LGBT - I think folks like Milo Yiannopolous show that being alt-right and pro-LGBT isn’t that far-fetched an idea. Being atheist and anti-religion is probably totally compatible with the alt-right, and yet many folks on the left are also atheist and/or anti-religion. Think an alt-right version of Bill Maher. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-left-wing-alt-right-prick/797383/139 "2017-09-28T00:01:39Z")
> [@Slash1972](#): > > I hate alt tab. I mean, who picked THAT to switch windows?? ammirite? Yeah, but **cntrl-alt-del** was da bomb!! ---
**Author:** ![Slash1972](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slash1972/32/6461_2.png) [@Slash1972](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slash1972)\ **Post date:** [September 28, 2017, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-left-wing-alt-right-prick/797383/140 "2017-09-28T00:06:42Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Yeah, but **cntrl-alt-del** was da bomb!! No matter how hard I try, I can’t read that without saying a dirty word at the beginning. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-left-wing-alt-right-prick/797383.md?page=6) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-left-wing-alt-right-prick/797383.md?page=8)