# Ask the (Not So) Amateur Porn Director **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [August 8, 2012, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/630805 "2012-08-08T00:14:13Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 10
**Author:** ![MikeSouth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ea666f/32.png) [@MikeSouth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeSouth)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/630805/181 "2012-08-09T21:25:56Z")
**Do you ever get couples coming to you wanting to do a scene together (with or without additional participants)? Or is it always individuals?** Quite a lot actually, sometimes they want to do it with no cameras, sometimes they want it shot for their own use only, it all depends I accommodate them if and when I can. **How big a deal is the record keeping related to proving everyone is over 18? Do you just sort of take a copy of everyone’s drivers license and keep it in a file in case you get audited?** thats pretty much it I actually keep it with the documentation for each particular shoot \*\*Or is there some periodic reporting obligation to some authority? \*\* there is no reporting to anyone I must either be served with a search warrant or a 2257 records inspection for anyone to see anyones personal info. \*\*Have you ever found out after the fact that an under-18 presented you a fake ID? \*\* Never, and I have had a few try… \*\*What did/would you do in that case? \*\* Immediately pull and destroy it. But I dont anticipate it happening though it could, Traci Lords for example had a valid CA drivers license and a US Passport. **Do the authorities run stings similar to how they go around looking for businesses selling tobacco or alcohol to minors?** I believe they have. I have had a couple of inquiries about shooting both early in my career where when I asked how old she was she said 17 but I will be 18 in two weeks, thats the end of the conversation right there…call me back in two weeks… ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/630805/182 "2012-08-09T21:39:38Z")
> [@MOIDALIZE](#): > > The other thing that annoys me is when there are obvious camera flashes going off, as someone takes pictures of the scene to post on a website. I find that to be incredibly tacky. Oh man that is annoying! Shoot two scenes and pay the girl twice, ya cheap bastard! Either that, or use enough lights that a flash is not needed. Or learn to use your fucking _camera_! ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 9:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/630805/183 "2012-08-09T21:45:26Z")
> [@MikeSouth](#): > > **Do you ever get couples coming to you wanting to do a scene together (with or without additional participants)? Or is it always individuals?** > > Quite a lot actually, sometimes they want to do it with no cameras, sometimes they want it shot for their own use only, it all depends I accommodate them if and when I can. How do you charge for that, if it’s not going on your site and making you money? I shoot concert videos, and while I have no interest in going into the business, I think I could do a decent job making a private porn film. (I’d have to be completely comfortable that nobody was being coerced.) I have a very efficient workflow that allows me to shoot with multiple cameras from multiple angles, transfer to a laptop and edit and deliver an HD finished master while you wait. ---
**Author:** ![Vicullum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/6de8d8/32.png) [@Vicullum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vicullum)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/630805/184 "2012-08-09T21:50:36Z")
> [@MikeSouth](#): > > Quite a lot actually, sometimes they want to do it with no cameras… So…they just want you to watch? ---
**Author:** ![Viridiana](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/ebca7d/32.png) [@Viridiana](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Viridiana)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/630805/185 "2012-08-09T22:08:36Z")
Thanks a lot for answering my question, **MikeSouth**! (and for your insight too, **Mister Rik** ; I’ve never seen one of those films in full so it’s hard to tell). I really was curious; I was wondering if it was maybe always technically legal, but only done more recently as part of the ‘blackbird’ movement, or if someone won a huge hushed-up court case 😛 I’d also like to say I’m enjoying your matter-of-fact writing style greatly! ---
**Author:** ![ralph124c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8797f3/32.png) [@ralph124c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ralph124c)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/630805/186 "2012-08-09T22:15:35Z")
The only porn movie I ever enjoyed was a takeoff/parody of “Flash Gordon” (the movie was called “Flesh Gordon”). Would you be interested in doing a remake?😃 ---
**Author:** ![Starving\_Artist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/aeb1de/32.png) [@Starving\_Artist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Starving_Artist)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/630805/187 "2012-08-09T22:39:33Z")
(sung off-key by 4 partially nude cheerleaders) “W-A-N-G! Emperor Wang is the one for me! Without him the Planet Porno, would be ever so forlorno!” Ha! What a flick! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![MikeSouth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ea666f/32.png) [@MikeSouth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeSouth)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/630805/188 "2012-08-09T22:47:30Z")
> [@gaffa](#): > > How do you charge for that, if it’s not going on your site and making you money? > > I shoot concert videos, and while I have no interest in going into the business, I think I could do a decent job making a private porn film. (I’d have to be completely comfortable that nobody was being coerced.) I have a very efficient workflow that allows me to shoot with multiple cameras from multiple angles, transfer to a laptop and edit and deliver an HD finished master while you wait. I dont charge for it, if I choose to do it its a courtesy but they have to provide the location and cover any expenses. ---
**Author:** ![MikeSouth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ea666f/32.png) [@MikeSouth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeSouth)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/630805/189 "2012-08-09T22:48:31Z")
> [@Vicullum](#): > > So…they just want you to watch? No they usually want to use my guys for a bang or a bukkake or something. ---
**Author:** ![MikeSouth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ea666f/32.png) [@MikeSouth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeSouth)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2012, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/630805/190 "2012-08-09T22:50:48Z")
> [@ralph124c](#): > > The only porn movie I ever enjoyed was a takeoff/parody of “Flash Gordon” (the movie was called “Flesh Gordon”). Would you be interested in doing a remake?😃 LOL for enough money ya prolly but it isnt my thing really the whole parody genre bores me. I did like Flesh Gordon though I also read today that a company is casting for a parody of “Motel Hell” really? LOL your protuberance. ---
**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/630805/191 "2012-08-10T00:24:57Z")
> [@MikeSouth](#): > > I dont charge for it, if I choose to do it its a courtesy but they have to provide the location and cover any expenses. Ah well, I guess there is no market if leading industry figures do it for expenses. > [@MikeSouth](#): > > LOL for enough money ya prolly but it isnt my thing really the whole parody genre bores me. The sad part is that they often get the look right, but get the characters all wrong. Lee Roy Myers’ [WKRP parody](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1545750/) got the look right, did a great job on the sets and had decent enough actors…but didn’t seem to have really watched the series closely. They put characters together who didn’t have a thing for each other. They had Bailey fucking Les, when half the series was about her crush on Johnny! And Nina Hartley could have had a huge amount of fun as Mother Carlson **“Hirsch!”** ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 12:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/630805/192 "2012-08-10T00:41:28Z")
Ok. I’m going to make a list of porn stars I like. Can you tell me if you’ve met them and what they are like as individuals? Rebeca Linares Annabelle Lee Naomi Knight Mz Berlin Holly Madison Natali Demore Thanks ---
**Author:** ![MikeSouth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ea666f/32.png) [@MikeSouth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeSouth)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/630805/193 "2012-08-10T00:49:39Z")
> [@gaffa](#): > > Ah well, I guess there is no market if leading industry figures do it for expenses. > The sad part is that they often get the look right, but get the characters all wrong. Lee Roy Myers’ [WKRP parody](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1545750/) got the look right, did a great job on the sets and had decent enough actors…but didn’t seem to have really watched the series closely. They put characters together who didn’t have a thing for each other. They had Bailey fucking Les, when half the series was about her crush on Johnny! And Nina Hartley could have had a huge amount of fun as Mother Carlson **“Hirsch!”** I only do it locally as a courtesy because it actually brings me new talent quite often, plus it generates good will. But if you aren’t local to Atlanta it would be far less pricey to hire someone locally. as for the parodies yer right on the money they are just a vehicle to present sex, story has little to do with it. ---
**Author:** ![MikeSouth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ea666f/32.png) [@MikeSouth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeSouth)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/630805/194 "2012-08-10T00:51:42Z")
Ok. I’m going to make a list of porn stars I like. Can you tell me if you’ve met them and what they are like as individuals? Rebeca Linares Met Rebecca very pretty seems nice. Annabelle Lee Never met Naomi Knight never met Mz Berlin never met Holly Madison never met Natali Demore never met but she and her editor committed suicide yesterday. Thanks yer welcome ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/630805/195 "2012-08-10T00:58:26Z")
I didn’t know that about Natali, I’m sorry to hear that. ---
**Author:** ![MikeSouth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ea666f/32.png) [@MikeSouth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeSouth)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 1:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/630805/196 "2012-08-10T01:00:22Z")
> [@Wesley\_Clark](#): > > I didn’t know that about Natali, I’m sorry to hear that. its a story from today if you look on [noparse] [www.xbiz.com](http://www.xbiz.com) [/noparse] (NSFW) its there. ---
**Author:** ![brickbacon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@brickbacon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brickbacon)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/630805/197 "2012-08-10T01:23:48Z")
1. Why is the porn industry so far behind in terms of racial equality? Along those lines, why is it so common to see performers refuse to work with Black actors? 2. Do you support porn companies suing individuals who download content illegally? 3. Has the reduced ability to make money off of content led to more performers being escorts? Kinda like how musicians make money of concerts instead of albums. 4. Why do you dislike Fabian Thylmann? ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/630805/198 "2012-08-10T01:28:27Z")
Speaking of amateur porn; what do you think of Wifey? She’s stunningly beautiful, but boringly predictable. Still, she’s made made me stand up and pay attention numerous times. ---
**Author:** ![MikeSouth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ea666f/32.png) [@MikeSouth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeSouth)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 1:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/630805/199 "2012-08-10T01:55:03Z")
\*\*1. Why is the porn industry so far behind in terms of racial equality? Along those lines, why is it so common to see performers refuse to work with Black actors? \*\* I dont agree on this one there is probably more interracial porn than any other genre. There are some girls who wont work with black guys and I even had a black girl that wouldnt work with black guys. No matter what her reasons her requests have to be respected, I cant make her have sex with someone she doesn’t want to, nor would I try. We all discriminate at some level, I have no problem with gay guys but I wouldn’t do a scene with one for instance. **2. Do you support porn companies suing individuals who download content illegally?** I’m iffy on that I much prefer they go after uploaders and filehosts and the like, I don’t think suing downloaders or copyright trolling is the right solution. \*\* 3. Has the reduced ability to make money off of content led to more performers being escorts? Kinda like how musicians make money of concerts instead of albums.\*\* ABSO FUCKING LUTELY **4. Why do you dislike Fabian Thylmann?** Fabian has built an empire on stolen content, plain and simple ---
**Author:** ![MikeSouth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ea666f/32.png) [@MikeSouth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MikeSouth)\ **Post date:** [August 10, 2012, 1:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/630805/200 "2012-08-10T01:56:49Z")
> [@Leaffan](#): > > Speaking of amateur porn; what do you think of Wifey? She’s stunningly beautiful, but boringly predictable. > > Still, she’s made made me stand up and pay attention numerous times. I respect the niche they carved for themselves (her and hubby) I met her once, she seems nice. They have made a lot of money with a hobby…God bless em, that what this biz is all about. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/630805.md?page=9) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-not-so-amateur-porn-director/630805.md?page=11)