# Ask the "straight" guy

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-straight-guy/17820>\
**Category:** Great Debates\
**Created:** [March 10, 2000, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-straight-guy/17820 "2000-03-10T15:08:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![pashley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e0b2c6/32.png) [@pashley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pashley)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-straight-guy/17820/1 "2000-03-10T15:08:00Z")

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In the pursuit of equal representation, I am setting up this folder as a complement to the “Ask the Gay Guy” folder.

Consider this a class on “Heterosexuality 101”

There seems to be a lot of misinformation out there on what it means to be Heterosexual, including bi-curious, cross-dressing, and other perversions.

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Patrick Ashley

‘The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.’ -Edmund Burke

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-straight-guy/17820/2 "2000-03-10T15:11:00Z")

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Okay, theres something I’ve wondered. Appaprtnetly, some poeple can and do change orientation. I’m thinking Ann Heche here;who used to date Steve Martin.  
Does this happen often?  
Is it STeve’s fault? 😉  
What would make YOU change pash?  
Have you ever been mistaken for gay?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-straight-guy/17820/3 "2000-03-10T15:18:00Z")

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At what age did you decide to become “het”?  
Is it true that “het” promoters infiltrate the schools to promote their “lifestyle”?  
Is there some sort of code used for wearing ties to show whether or not you are available?

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**Author:** ![Occam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Occam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Occam)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-straight-guy/17820/4 "2000-03-10T15:21:00Z")

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Why do heterosexuals feel the need to martyr themselves. I mean, your straight, fine I get it, now get outta my face. 🙂

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**Author:** ![pashley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e0b2c6/32.png) [@pashley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pashley)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-straight-guy/17820/5 "2000-03-10T15:27:00Z")

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orangecakes:

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“Okay, theres something I’ve wondered. Appaprtnetly, some poeple can and do change orientation. I’m thinking Ann Heche here;who used to date Steve Martin.  
Does this happen often?  
Is it STeve’s fault?  
What would make YOU change pash?  
Have you ever been mistaken for gay?”

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Does it happen often? No  
Is it Steve’s fault? No.  
Nothing would make me change, that I can forsee, though I could change my behaviour to become bi/gay (seeing your trap)  
Never been mistaken for gay.

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Patrick Ashley

‘The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.’ -Edmund Burke

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**Author:** ![pashley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e0b2c6/32.png) [@pashley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pashley)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 3:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-straight-guy/17820/6 "2000-03-10T15:50:00Z")

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slythe:

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> “At what age did you decide to become “het”?  
> Is it true that “het” promoters infiltrate the schools to promote their “lifestyle”?  
> Is there some sort of code used for wearing ties to show whether or not you are available?”

Well, i was always het, and continue to use my behavior to stay in that orientaion.

No proliferation, no overt availablity “signal”, other than the absence of a wedding ring.

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Patrick Ashley

‘The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.’ -Edmund Burke

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**Author:** ![pashley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e0b2c6/32.png) [@pashley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pashley)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-straight-guy/17820/7 "2000-03-10T15:52:00Z")

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Occam:

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> "Why do heterosexuals feel the need to martyr themselves. I mean, your straight, fine I get it, now get outta my face. "

Ah, but that’s the difference between hets and homos… 🙂

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Patrick Ashley

‘The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.’ -Edmund Burke

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**Author:** ![stolichnaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bcef8e/32.png) [@stolichnaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stolichnaya)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-straight-guy/17820/8 "2000-03-10T15:53:00Z")

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Do you ever get embarrased by straight guys that are just sooooooooo _straight_? If you know what I mean?

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stoli

Well, blessed is just about everyone with a vested interest in the status quo,  
as far as I can tell.

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**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-straight-guy/17820/9 "2000-03-10T16:09:00Z")

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**Dear Straight Guy,**

Research has indicated that over 93% of all child molesters are heterosexual men who prey on adolescent girls. I don’t think it’s safe to let them teach my children, or really for them to live next door to me. What’s up with that?

Also, most heterosexuals seem to really be hung up on sex - I mean, you see it everywhere, in magazines, on television, in books… it’s just ridiculous. Why can’t they just keep it in the bedroom where it belongs, instead of flaunting it? It really offends me, all those straight married people with their wedding rings and pictures of their spouses and kids on their desks and kissing in public and stuff (which is even more ironic since a large percentage of them can’t even keep their marriages together). Plus, they seem to _really_ be hung up on what _other_ people do in bed - is it really any of their business? I just don’t get that.

Oh, and another thing - how do you know you’re really straight? I mean, if you’ve never slept with someone of the same sex, you can’t really say you’ve given it a fair shake. You gotta taste lima beans to know you don’t like them, after all…

I’m really glad you set up this thread, but I still think heterosexuality is just really gross in general, although some of my best friends are straight, and they’re ok, I guess.

Esprix

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[Ask the Gay Guy!](http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/001376.html)

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**Author:** ![pashley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e0b2c6/32.png) [@pashley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pashley)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-straight-guy/17820/10 "2000-03-10T16:19:00Z")

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stoli:

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> “Do you ever get embarrased by straight guys that are just sooooooooo straight? If you know what I mean?”

Well, not embarassed, maybe a wee bit envious. Being a bit crooked seems to stimulate the ladies more!

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Patrick Ashley

‘The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.’ -Edmund Burke

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**Author:** ![pashley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e0b2c6/32.png) [@pashley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pashley)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-straight-guy/17820/11 "2000-03-10T16:50:00Z")

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Esprix:

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> “Research has indicated that over 93% of all child molesters are heterosexual men who prey on adolescent girls. I don’t think it’s safe to let them teach my children, or really for them to live next door to me. What’s up with that?”

I was wondering when you’d post.

No one, het or homo, should condone or allow the abuse of children sexually. Of course, your statistic makes sense, in that male hets would choose a female child, instead of a male child. I wonder what the stats are for homos attacking young boys? Or even if there is a organization promoting it…oh yes, NAMBLA (North American Man-Boy Love Association). I wonder what their orientation is…hmmmm.

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> "Why can’t they just keep it in the bedroom where it belongs, instead of flaunting it? It really offends me, all those straight married people with their wedding rings and pictures of their spouses and kids on their desks and kissing in public and stuff "

Agreed, the overt stuff should be kept somewhat low profile, instead of the cheap marketing scheme it is now.

And I can see why it would offend a liberal homo, knowing what they are missing, and choosing not to have.

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> "Oh, and another thing - how do you know you’re really straight? I mean, if you’ve never slept with someone of the same sex…

Some things are self evident. Biologically, hets are correct, whereas homos are clearly in error. Homos can’t propogate themselves, which certainly leans towards the learned behaviour theory. Why would I want to sleep with a man? I won’t get a sore ass or AIDS from a woman (generally). Plus, boobs are just too fun.

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> “I’m really glad you set up this thread, but I still think heterosexuality is just really gross in general, although some of my best friends are straight, and they’re ok, I guess.”

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> “I’m really glad you set up this thread, but I still think heterosexuality is just really gross in general, although some of my best friends are straight, and they’re ok, I guess.”

That’s ok, just rest comfortable knowing you’ve learned something!

God bless you!

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Patrick Ashley

‘The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.’ -Edmund Burke

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-straight-guy/17820/12 "2000-03-10T17:13:00Z")

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LBMB moment follows. Please stand by.

☹  
Patrick, I’m very sad for you,just as I’m sad for everyone who has not accepted Christ. I’m praying that you will one day truly accept Him into your heart. Only then will you be free of the demons of hatred you seem to hold.

“Lord Jesus, please help your child Patrick understand Your love and to release his hate. Amen.”

YBIC  
-andros-

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**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-straight-guy/17820/13 "2000-03-10T17:20:00Z")

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> Originally posted by pashley:
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> No one, het or homo, should condone or allow the abuse of children sexually.

Agreed, which is why the gay community regards NAMBLA with as much contempt and disgust as you do.

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> Of course, your statistic makes sense, in that male hets would choose a female child, instead of a male child. I wonder what the stats are for homos attacking young boys?

Um, less than 7%? You really do have this nasty habit of not reading posts. Here’s what I wrote:

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> Research has indicated that **over 93% of all child molesters are heterosexual men** who prey on adolescent girls. I don’t think it’s safe to let them teach my children, or really for them to live next door to me.

{My bolding for emphasis}

Heterosexual men wouldn’t molest boys; that’s why they’re called _heterosexual_. So do you think it’s safe for me to let them teach my daughter? I mean, I’m really worried about this. Maybe no heterosexual men should be allowed to teach at all - it’s threatening the sanctity of the teaching profession (not to mention the clergy, policemen, soccer coaches…).

You didn’t really answer my question - _why_ are heterosexuals all hung up on sex? Why do they flaunt it? Why do they feel compelled to seduce others into their lifestyle? Why do they seem so obsessed with what goes on in _my_ bedroom? Is it really any of their business?

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> … choosing not to have.

Hmmm, that’s interesting. What are your thoughts on the following quote from the American Psychological Association ([www.apa.com](http://www.apa.com)), July 1998 (with apologies to those who have seen it in other threads)?:

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> _What Is Sexual Orientation?_
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> There are numerous theories about the origins of a person’s sexual orientation; most scientists today agree that sexual orientation is most likely the result of a complex interaction of environmental, cognitive and biological factors. In most people, sexual orientation is shaped at an early age. There is also considerable recent evidence to suggest that biology, including genetic or inborn hormonal factors, play a significant role in a person’s sexuality. In summary, it is important to recognize that there are probably many reasons for a person’s sexual orientation and the reasons may be different for different people.
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> _Is Sexual Orientation a Choice?_
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> No, human beings can not choose to be either gay or straight. Sexual orientation emerges for most people in early adolescence without any prior sexual experience. Although we can choose whether to act on our feelings, psychologists do not consider sexual orientation to be a conscious choice that can be voluntarily changed.

And, as an aside to orangecakes:

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> _Can Therapy Change Sexual Orientation?_
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> No; even though most homosexuals live successful, happy lives, some homosexual or bisexual people may seek to change their sexual orientation through therapy, often coerced by family members or religious groups to try and do so. The reality is that homosexuality is not an illness. It does not require treatment and is not changeable. However, not all gay, lesbian, and bisexual people who seek assistance from a mental health professional want to change their sexual orientation. Gay, lesbian, and bisexual people may seek psychological help with the coming out process or for strategies to deal with prejudice, but most go into therapy for the same reasons and life issues that bring straight people to mental health professionals.

Their summations are based on over 35 years of research.

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> Some things are self evident. Biologically, hets are correct, whereas homos are clearly in error. Homos can’t propogate themselves, which certainly leans towards the learned behaviour theory. Why would I want to sleep with a man? I won’t get a sore ass or AIDS from a woman (generally). Plus, boobs are just too fun.

Oh, you mean heterosexual relationships are based solely on sexual intercourse and procreation? Wow, they’re more shallow than I thought - how sad for them! I’m glad that long-term homosexual relationships are based on more meaningful aspects like love, trust, understanding, communication, family, joy, and commitment.

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> That’s ok, just rest comfortable knowing you’ve learned something!

No, 'cause so far nothing you’ve said makes sense. But I understand - the homosexual community tends to be much more intelligent and creative than heterosexuals, so you really can’t help being a little dim. I’m sure your God loves you anyway!

Esprix

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[Ask the Gay Guy!](http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/001376.html)

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**Author:** ![pashley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e0b2c6/32.png) [@pashley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pashley)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 5:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-straight-guy/17820/14 "2000-03-10T17:50:00Z")

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andros:

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> “Patrick, I’m very sad for you,just as I’m sad for everyone who has not accepted Christ. I’m praying that you will one day truly accept Him into your heart. Only then will you be free of the demons of hatred you seem to hold.”

Hold on, Andros. Jesus Christ is my saviour, don’t worry. I’m not sure what religion you are, but in my religion, Christianity, which follows the teachings of the Bible, homosexuality is not condoned. I believe you are homosexual? (I’m not sure). Do you also recall “Love the sinner, hate the sin?”

This is what I follow…

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Patrick Ashley

‘The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.’ -Edmund Burke

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-straight-guy/17820/15 "2000-03-10T17:51:00Z")

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Guess you’ve never heard of Exodus.  
Guess all those folks who’ve changed were lying. Guess someone has an agenda to promote and is afraid of people breaking ranks…  
😉

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-straight-guy/17820/16 "2000-03-10T17:57:00Z")

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andros, That was pretty funny. and accurate.  
“God bless…”

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**Author:** ![system](https://global.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/original/2X/e/e489c3b7d8fce19c4b355dd4fc3f88cc39c34b87.png) [@system](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/system)\
**Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-straight-guy/17820/17 "2000-03-10T17:59:00Z")

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pashley-“boobs are just too much fun”; theres a web page you may wanna check out…

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**Author:** ![Sake\_Samurai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sake\_Samurai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sake_Samurai)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2000, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-straight-guy/17820/18 "2000-03-11T06:15:00Z")

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Hey, straight guy! I love your forum so far.

I’m a bible-readin’, church-goin’ guy and I’ve always heard that God created man in his image. Does that mean God is gay? Or are homos evil (i.e., was Satan a fag) - the way I see it, it’s one or the other.

And what’s up with lesbians? My priest told me that lesbians were created when God took a rib from Eve and a testicle from Adam. Is this true?

- Perplexed in Portland

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Yet to be reconciled with the reality of the dark for a moment, I go on wandering from dream to dream.

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**Author:** ![stolichnaya](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bcef8e/32.png) [@stolichnaya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stolichnaya)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2000, 6:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-straight-guy/17820/19 "2000-03-11T06:25:00Z")

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hey strate guy i know a homo and he lives on my street and manny people tell me he is evil but he seems nice to me i just want to know. also they say hate the sin, i hate sin but they guy seems nice. i hope that has been of helpful.

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stoli

Well, blessed is just about everyone with a vested interest in the status quo,  
as far as I can tell.

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**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\
**Post date:** [March 11, 2000, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-straight-guy/17820/20 "2000-03-11T06:26:00Z")

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> Do you also recall “Love the sinner, hate the sin?”

Oh yes. I remember the Redeemer who forgave His Betrayer. I remember the Christ who loved a whore.

And then I see insulting and bile-filled statements like these:

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> I wonder what the stats are for homos attacking young boys? Or even if there is a organization promoting it . . .
> 
> I can see why it would offend a liberal homo . . .
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> their obscene lifestyle? . . .
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> That is facist thinking . . .
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> Of course not, idiot. . .
> 
> this ‘right thing to do’ is just more feel-good liberal crap . . .
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> I GUESS INSTEAD OF CALLLING IT “GAY ‘RIGHTS’”, I SHOULD CALL IT “GAY ‘RITES’”!!! HA-HA-HA!!! . . .
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> I couldn’t resist taunting you. Yes, my moral superiority has been validated over and over again . . .
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> I’ll take you calling me an “asshole” a compliment, seeing that’s where you like to be most of the time . . .
> 
> What do you call San Fransick-o? . . .
> 
> here we go with gay fascism . . .
> 
> Just because I have beaten you all (as have the voters of California) in logic, reasoning and morality, is not just cause for slandering me. . .

And my favorite:

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> at least I know about where my penis is suppose to go, you waste of dick.
> 
> Q: What’s the difference between a fag and a catfish?
> 
> A: One is a bottem-dwelling scum sucker, the other is a bottem-loving cum sucker

Reading posts like these from someone who claims to be following in Christ’s footsteps makes me very sad. Too many people seem to use “love the sinner, hate the sin” as a mask for actually hating the sinner. I like to think of it as the Landover Baptist Syndrome.

You migth think that you’re simply “laying it on the line,” but you are being deliberately insulting. And Christ did not call people names, no matter how sinful he might have thought them. Remember, people are God’s children. Sins are only actions. Mary Magdalene’s sins were _irrelevant_ to Christ. And when she loved him, she no longer engaged in her sinful behavior.

Further, Christ did NOT call Mary Magdalene a “cum sucker,” and I am saddened that you might think this was _in any way_ appropriate behavior for a Christian.

-andros-

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