# Ask the "straight" guy **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [March 10, 2000, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-straight-guy/17820 "2000-03-10T15:08:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Hey\_Hey\_Paula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/85e7bf/32.png) [@Hey\_Hey\_Paula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hey_Hey_Paula)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2000, 6:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-straight-guy/17820/21 "2000-03-11T06:26:00Z")
Dear “Straight” Guy: Something I’ve always wondered: Why do straight guys hoot, holler, whistle, honk their horns, shout rude things, and generally make asses of themselves when they are driving their cars and observe a female pedestrian? What exactly do they hope to accomplish by this action? Please enlighten me. * * * “The analyst went barking up the wrong tree, of course. I never should have mentioned unicorns to a Freudian.” – Dottie (“Jumpers” by Tom Stoppard) ---
**Author:** ![Occam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e9bcb4/32.png) [@Occam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Occam)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2000, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-straight-guy/17820/22 "2000-03-11T06:32:00Z")
Esprix said: “Research has indicated that over 93% of all child molesters are heterosexual men who prey on adolescent girls.” Your a smart guy so I’ll cut to the quick. Ya’ll are missin’ a piece of the fortune cookie. What percentage of men are heterosexual? I don’t know exact figures, but I’d say about 90% So…of course heterosexual’s will be the child molesters, becasue, hark! there are more of 'em! ---
**Author:** ![Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Otto)\ **Post date:** [March 11, 2000, 6:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-straight-guy/17820/23 "2000-03-11T06:34:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Heterosexual men wouldn’t molest boys; that’s why they’re called heterosexual. Actually, child molesters tend not to sex-select their victims. Victim choice is based largely on opportunity. Male offenders who are heterosexual in their relations with adults will stiil predate on male children if that is their opportunity. Child molestation is based largely in power dynamics, not the sex of the victim. ---
**Author:** ![pashley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e0b2c6/32.png) [@pashley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pashley)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-straight-guy/17820/24 "2000-03-10T19:16:00Z")
Esprix: > [@](#): > > ## "Um, less than 7%? You really do have this nasty habit of not reading posts. Here’s what I wrote: quote: > > Research has indicated that over 93% of all child molesters are heterosexual men who prey on adolescent girls. I don’t think it’s safe to let them teach my children, or really for them to live next door to me." Duh, and I said what are the stats for homos molesting boys? Read better yourself! > [@](#): > > "You didn’t really answer my question - why are heterosexuals all hung up on sex? Why do they flaunt it? Why do they feel compelled to seduce others into their lifestyle? Why do they seem so obsessed with what goes on in my bedroom? Is it really any of their business? Again, I don’t condone the flaunting of it; I believe overt sexual behavior should be toned down a bit. You can’t watch a night of TV without a reference to sex. And we don’t care so much about what goes on in your bedroom…HOWEVER… When it comes to homos asserting their behavior is the NORM, even Advocating it, no, sorry, ain’t gonna fly. > [@](#): > > "Hmmm, that’s interesting. What are your thoughts on the following quote from the American Psychological Association Yes, I’m aware of all those “findings”. What you don’t know is that the APA caved into the liberal gay agenda on the re-definition. Psychologists can’t even suggest nowadays that Homosexuality can be treated, lest they be chastised. Even reparitive therapy, which the militant gay agenda won’t tolerate, is under attack. What’s wrong with a homosexual, who’s suffering in his sexuality, wanting to get help? > [@](#): > > “Oh, you mean heterosexual relationships are based solely on sexual intercourse and procreation? Wow, they’re more shallow than I thought - how sad for them! I’m glad that long-term homosexual relationships are based on more meaningful aspects like love, trust, understanding, communication, family, joy, and commitment.” No, but homosexual ones are. It’s well known the homosexual lifestyle is inherently selfish and self-gratifying. It is based on narcissism and self-obsession. The argument of “I have no choice” is pure nonsense. Even in gay society monogamy is NOT the norm, it is the exception. Commitment is not a word included in homosexual vernacular, yet sanctioned unions are now at the top of their agenda along with the right to have children. 😃 * * * Patrick Ashley ‘The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.’ -Edmund Burke ---
**Author:** ![cleosia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9dc877/32.png) [@cleosia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cleosia)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-straight-guy/17820/25 "2000-03-10T19:17:00Z")
**pashly** > [@](#): > > Hold on, Andros. Jesus Christ is my saviour, don’t worry. I’m not sure what religion you are, but in my religion, Christianity, which follows the teachings of the Bible, homosexuality is not condoned. Christianity, truth be told, should be following the teachings of Christ. Christ never mentioned hating or hurting homosexuals. That comes from the Old Testament. And if you check carefully, following both the Old **and** the New Testament will turn you into a Schizophrenic. Otto: As I understand it from studies on child molestation, a homosexual molester will prey on boys, but a heterosexual molester is an equal opportunity predator and will generally prey equally on boys and girls. ## Oh, and NAMBLA really isn’t about child molesting. [sarcasm] They just want to revive the traditional Greek way of life. [/sarcasm] Bitch by Birth ---
**Author:** ![pashley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e0b2c6/32.png) [@pashley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pashley)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-straight-guy/17820/26 "2000-03-10T19:22:00Z")
Sake Samurai: > [@](#): > > "I’m a bible-readin’, church-goin’ guy and I’ve always heard that God created man in his image. Does that mean God is gay? Or are homos evil (i.e., was Satan a fag) - the way I see it, it’s one or the other. > > And what’s up with lesbians? My priest told me that lesbians were created when God took a rib from Eve and a testicle from Adam. Is this true?" Very entertaining. NOT The “image” of God does not refer to poor choices made by humans. You’ve never been to church in your life, who are you kidding? :rolleyes: * * * Patrick Ashley ‘The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.’ -Edmund Burke ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-straight-guy/17820/27 "2000-03-10T19:25:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by orangecakes: > > Guess you’ve never heard of Exodus. > Guess all those folks who’ve changed were lying. Guess someone has an agenda to promote and is afraid of people breaking ranks… I’m sorry, I was just posting the written position of an established psychological authority - I didn’t personally make any staements one way or the other. You asked a question, I posted an answer from an acknowledged expert. Sorry if it doesn’t jive with you. Have I, personally, heard of Exodus? Yes. I’ve also heard of Michael Busse and Gary Cooper, who founded it in 1976. After 3 years they left the organization - as lovers - saying it was, “ineffective… not one person was healed.” FWIW. Esprix * * * [Ask the Gay Guy!](http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/001376.html) ---
**Author:** ![pashley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e0b2c6/32.png) [@pashley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pashley)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-straight-guy/17820/28 "2000-03-10T19:29:00Z")
andros: > [@](#): > > “I remember the Christ who loved a whore.” Yes, and he forgave that whore, and told her to “go forth and sin no more.” > [@](#): > > "Reading posts like these from someone who claims to be following in Christ’s footsteps makes me very sad. Too many people seem to use “love the sinner, hate the sin” as a mask for actually hating the sinner. I like to think of it as the Landover Baptist Syndrome. > You migth think that you’re simply “laying it on the line,” but you are being deliberately insulting. And Christ did not call people names, no matter how sinful he might have thought them. Remember, people are God’s children. Sins are only actions. Mary Magdalene’s sins were irrelevant to Christ. And when she loved him, she no longer engaged in her sinful behavior. > > Further, Christ did NOT call Mary Magdalene a “cum sucker,” and I am saddened that you might think this was in any way appropriate behavior for a Christian." Sure, I made all those remarks, defensively. I never said Mary Magdalene was called that. It was a joke, lighten up. Would you rather me be some mamby-pamby christian, just rolling over whenever these people throw a punch? No, I won’t do that. I fight for what I believe in. * * * Patrick Ashley ‘The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.’ -Edmund Burke ---
**Author:** ![pashley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e0b2c6/32.png) [@pashley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pashley)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-straight-guy/17820/29 "2000-03-10T19:29:00Z")
andros: > [@](#): > > “I remember the Christ who loved a whore.” Yes, and he forgave that whore, and told her to “go forth and sin no more.” > [@](#): > > "Reading posts like these from someone who claims to be following in Christ’s footsteps makes me very sad. Too many people seem to use “love the sinner, hate the sin” as a mask for actually hating the sinner. I like to think of it as the Landover Baptist Syndrome. > You migth think that you’re simply “laying it on the line,” but you are being deliberately insulting. And Christ did not call people names, no matter how sinful he might have thought them. Remember, people are God’s children. Sins are only actions. Mary Magdalene’s sins were irrelevant to Christ. And when she loved him, she no longer engaged in her sinful behavior. > > Further, Christ did NOT call Mary Magdalene a “cum sucker,” and I am saddened that you might think this was in any way appropriate behavior for a Christian." Sure, I made all those remarks, defensively. I never said Mary Magdalene was called that. It was a joke, lighten up. Would you rather me be some mamby-pamby christian, just rolling over whenever these people throw a punch? No, I won’t do that. I fight for what I believe in. * * * Patrick Ashley ‘The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.’ -Edmund Burke ---
**Author:** ![pashley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e0b2c6/32.png) [@pashley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pashley)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-straight-guy/17820/30 "2000-03-10T19:34:00Z")
Hey Hey Paula: > [@](#): > > "Something I’ve always wondered: Why do straight guys hoot, holler, whistle, honk their horns, shout rude things, and generally make asses of themselves when they are driving their cars and observe a female pedestrian? What exactly do they hope to accomplish by this action? Please enlighten me. " Why? They are voicing their interest in the woman. It’s a little much, I agree. What do they hope to accomplish? Nothing, it’s not a goal-oriented behavior. It is a bonding thing, amongst guys though. 😃 * * * Patrick Ashley ‘The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.’ -Edmund Burke ---
**Author:** ![pashley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e0b2c6/32.png) [@pashley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pashley)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-straight-guy/17820/31 "2000-03-10T19:38:00Z")
cleosia: > [@](#): > > “Christianity, truth be told, should be following the teachings of Christ. Christ never mentioned hating or hurting homosexuals” Agreed. Again, I would never advocate getting physically abusive with someone that is homosexual. ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-straight-guy/17820/32 "2000-03-10T19:39:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by Occam: > > Your a smart guy so I’ll cut to the quick. Ya’ll are missin’ a piece of the fortune cookie. What percentage of men are heterosexual? I don’t know exact figures, but I’d say about 90% So…of course heterosexual’s will be the child molesters, becasue, hark! there are more of 'em! Absolutely - but logic seems to have no place in some people’s lives, and they continue believing the fallacy that “gay man” automatically means “child molester.” The stat I picked up from the Dept. of Justice, and I posted them elsewhere (I think in the “How could the church let this happen?” thread). It also mentions the stats on female child molesters, but they are extraordinarily low, and of those, almost all are women who seduce young men, so female child molesters who seduce girls are the lowest percentage. Esprix * * * [Ask the Gay Guy!](http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/001376.html) ---
**Author:** ![pashley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/e0b2c6/32.png) [@pashley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pashley)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-straight-guy/17820/33 "2000-03-10T19:41:00Z")
esprix: > [@](#): > > "Absolutely - but logic seems to have no place in some people’s lives, and they continue believing the fallacy that “gay man” automatically means “child molester.” I’ll go on record as saying that I don’t believe that position, that gays necessarily are more prone to molesting boys. It’s sad it happens at all. I HOPE we all agree on that at least. * * * Patrick Ashley ‘The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.’ -Edmund Burke ---
**Author:** ![andros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e480ec/32.png) [@andros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/andros)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-straight-guy/17820/34 "2000-03-10T19:44:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Sure, I made all those remarks, defensively. No, you made all those statements _offensively_. > [@](#): > > I never said Mary Magdalene was called that. It was a joke, lighten up. I will not lighten up when I see a so-called “Christian” so blithely abandoning Christ’s teachings. You are called in His service. Your way is clearly not His way. I’m sorry for you. [quote] Would you rather me be some mamby-pamby christian, just rolling over whenever these people throw a punch? [quote] Well, yes, actually. I expect you to \*\*_turn the other cheek[b/]_. I would rather you be a person who chooses love rather than hate. Righteous anger is one thing–I have no problem with the anger Christ showed with the moneychangers in the Temple. But again, Christ showed no hatred to _individuals_. You might to well to follow that example. Open your heart to the Lord of Love, Patrick. Not a false idol of hatred and invective. -andros- ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-straight-guy/17820/35 "2000-03-10T19:44:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by andros: > > Reading posts like these from someone who claims to be following in Christ’s footsteps makes me very sad. Too many people seem to use “love the sinner, hate the sin” as a mask for actually hating the sinner… > > You migth think that you’re simply “laying it on the line,” but you are being deliberately insulting. And Christ did not call people names, no matter how sinful he might have thought them… You’re right, andros - Pashley’s behavior is, thankfully, not what I would consider Christian in any sense of the word. Fortunately, I know he doesn’t speak for all Christians (or really anyone but his own lonesome self), so, fortunately, I can continue to love Christians. Esprix * * * [Ask the Gay Guy!](http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/001376.html) ---
**Author:** ![Esprix](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/esprix/32/7899_2.png) [@Esprix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Esprix)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-straight-guy/17820/36 "2000-03-10T19:50:00Z")
> [@](#): > > Originally posted by Otto: > > Actually, child molesters tend not to sex-select their victims. Victim choice is based largely on opportunity. Male offenders who are heterosexual in their relations with adults will stiil predate on male children if that is their opportunity. Child molestation is based largely in power dynamics, not the sex of the victim. Good point, Otto, but the cite I quoted really was that the vast majority of child molesters are men who molest girls. How many of those men are heterosexual and homosexual otherwise? That stat I don’t have, nor do I think the DoJ has, either. Still, if we go by the stat as Occam pointed out, 90% of 93% is still the vast majority. (I’ll have to look up those stats I found…) Esprix * * * [Ask the Gay Guy!](http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/001376.html) ---
**Author:** ![Dangerosa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/22d042/32.png) [@Dangerosa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dangerosa)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-straight-guy/17820/37 "2000-03-10T19:58:00Z")
Why do men rape women? ---
**Author:** ![ReservoirDog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/8edcca/32.png) [@ReservoirDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ReservoirDog)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-straight-guy/17820/38 "2000-03-10T19:58:00Z")
I am so angry at the ignorance I see spewed forth all over this board, that I can not make a real argument here. However, Straight guy, riddle me this: If you believe that homosexuality is a sin, you believe that homosexuals are going to hell. If you hate homosexuals, why are you trying to save them? It would seem that the thought of all the sinners, who refuse to see the errors of their ways, burning eternally in hell, would be pleasing to a good, God-fearing Christian. What is your motive in concerning yourself with them at all? Should you not be pleased with your righteous self, knowing that you will be sitting on a sterile cloud one day after your passing, whilst the sinners get what they deserve? Does your heart not fill with pure joy knowing that you are clearly better than they are, and that you will reap your eternal reward in the Kingdom? Pashley, Orion, and all those like you: If your God exists, and He truly judges the souls of His people based upon goodness, purity, kindness, and love, you will likely find yourself in the very place to which you would like these others condemned, while those you hate and fear will live forever in happiness. In other words : I HOPE YOU BURN IN HELL. Sincerely, A real straight man ---
**Author:** ![Nu\_Vo\_Da\_Da](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/97f17d/32.png) [@Nu\_Vo\_Da\_Da](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nu_Vo_Da_Da)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-straight-guy/17820/39 "2000-03-10T20:04:00Z")
Dear Straight Guy: Why are you making the rest of us straight guys look bad? * * * Still later, Gerald did a terrible thing to Elsie with a saucepan. ---
**Author:** ![SqrlCub](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ea5d25/32.png) [@SqrlCub](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SqrlCub)\ **Post date:** [March 10, 2000, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-straight-guy/17820/40 "2000-03-10T20:05:00Z")
I love you ReservoirDog. 🙂 Seriously now, I see the original poster in his light. Check out my troll fable thread in MPSIMS. HUGS! Sqrl * * * [SqrlCub’s Arizona Adventure](http://boards.straightdope.com/ubb/Forum4/HTML/005351.html) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-straight-guy/17820.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ask-the-straight-guy/17820.md?page=3)