# ASOIAF/Game Of Thrones, winter is coming?

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [March 21, 2015, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asoiaf-game-of-thrones-winter-is-coming/715558 "2015-03-21T01:17:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asoiaf-game-of-thrones-winter-is-coming/715558/21 "2015-03-21T19:57:23Z")

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IIRC the previous winter was fairly mild which contributes to most folks not being concerned about it.

Brian

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asoiaf-game-of-thrones-winter-is-coming/715558/22 "2015-03-21T21:40:54Z")

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> [@Telperion](#):
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> I expect it’s more like Polar winters where the sun doesn’t rise for six months. Or maybe longer than that, it’s pretty hard to tell how Westerosi climate works.

The Long Night was supposed to have lasted a generation, and affected places as far south as Yi Ti (the world’s China analog). It was an exceptional event that is remembered thousands and thousands of years later. Sounds like a nuclear winter to me.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asoiaf-game-of-thrones-winter-is-coming/715558/23 "2015-03-21T22:04:29Z")

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I’d just like to see that world’s solar system and orbits, so that I could understand their seasons that endure for many revolutions.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asoiaf-game-of-thrones-winter-is-coming/715558/24 "2015-03-21T22:26:46Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> I’d just like to see that world’s solar system and orbits, so that I could understand their seasons that endure for many revolutions.

I suspect you’ll find them similar to our own, and that the anomalies are caused by magic, not orbital mechanics.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asoiaf-game-of-thrones-winter-is-coming/715558/25 "2015-03-21T22:38:00Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> I suspect you’ll find them similar to our own, and that the anomalies are caused by magic, not orbital mechanics.

I don’t want magic! I want orbital dynamics! :mad:

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**Author:** ![tavalla](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tavalla/32/89_2.png) [@tavalla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tavalla)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asoiaf-game-of-thrones-winter-is-coming/715558/26 "2015-03-21T23:00:40Z")

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[Apparently it’s magic, and yet to be revealed](http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Westeros#Seasons_and_climate).

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asoiaf-game-of-thrones-winter-is-coming/715558/27 "2015-03-21T23:21:47Z")

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> [@tavalla](#):
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> [Apparently it’s magic, and yet to be revealed](http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Westeros#Seasons_and_climate).

Well, that’s unsatisfying.

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**Author:** ![Alessan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alessan/32/465_2.png) [@Alessan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Alessan)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asoiaf-game-of-thrones-winter-is-coming/715558/28 "2015-03-21T23:31:20Z")

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You’re complaining about the presence of magic in a high fantasy series?

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [March 21, 2015, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asoiaf-game-of-thrones-winter-is-coming/715558/29 "2015-03-21T23:36:20Z")

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> [@Alessan](#):
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> You’re complaining about the presence of magic in a high fantasy series?

Ah, c’mon man - it’s medium fantasy at best ;).

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**Author:** ![keeper0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/b19c9b/32.png) [@keeper0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/keeper0)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2015, 5:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asoiaf-game-of-thrones-winter-is-coming/715558/30 "2015-03-22T05:17:42Z")

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> [@Tamerlane](#):
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> Ah, c’mon man - it’s medium fantasy at best ;).

Or “hung over with a pounding headache” fantasy. I very rarely feel “high” when reading it.

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**Author:** ![buddha\_david](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ee7513/32.png) [@buddha\_david](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/buddha_david)\
**Post date:** [March 22, 2015, 8:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/asoiaf-game-of-thrones-winter-is-coming/715558/31 "2015-03-22T08:49:29Z")

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> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> I don’t want magic! I want orbital dynamics! :mad:

Here ya go:

[Climate and Astronomy in Game of Thrones](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JKrn4P4c5ps)

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