# Aspidistra finds loophole in hate speech rules? **URL:** \ **Category:** About This Message Board\ **Created:** [March 10, 2022, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aspidistra-finds-loophole-in-hate-speech-rules/960843 "2022-03-10T19:59:12Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2022, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aspidistra-finds-loophole-in-hate-speech-rules/960843/101 "2022-03-14T17:09:25Z")
_Ad nuntiis_ (to the messages) ---
**Author:** ![RitterSport](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rittersport/32/6326_2.png) [@RitterSport](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RitterSport)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2022, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aspidistra-finds-loophole-in-hate-speech-rules/960843/102 "2022-03-14T17:11:47Z")
Thanks! In the rulebook, we should remove “Attack the post, not the poster” and replace it with “Ad nuntiis attacks are acceptable, not ad hominems”, because we’re snooty that way. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2022, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aspidistra-finds-loophole-in-hate-speech-rules/960843/103 "2022-03-14T18:11:00Z")
Yeah, that is not just "_Mis-gendering"._ It is not like calling the spouse “she” when their preferred is “he” which can easily be a honest mistake. That is deliberate. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2022, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aspidistra-finds-loophole-in-hate-speech-rules/960843/104 "2022-03-14T19:08:30Z")
So, have we all been smashing that report button? It seems like a clear, purposeful violation to me. ---
**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2022, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aspidistra-finds-loophole-in-hate-speech-rules/960843/105 "2022-03-14T19:09:46Z")
That just annoys the Mods. Only one report is necessary. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2022, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aspidistra-finds-loophole-in-hate-speech-rules/960843/106 "2022-03-14T19:13:20Z")
Withdrawn. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2022, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aspidistra-finds-loophole-in-hate-speech-rules/960843/107 "2022-03-14T19:37:39Z")
I have it on good authority that if enough of the Hive Mind reports somebody, the mods are required by Hive Law to give a warning. ---
**Author:** ![Sunny\_Daze](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sunny_daze/32/438_2.png) [@Sunny\_Daze](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunny_Daze)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2022, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aspidistra-finds-loophole-in-hate-speech-rules/960843/108 "2022-03-14T21:48:24Z")
Oh, shoot. I’ll have to check the by-laws. ETA: To be clear, I’m joking about the by-laws. I would like to say that we sometimes get mixed messages on reporting though. MODs: Should we always report problem posts or should we assume that posts that are under discussion in a thread have been seen and will be acted on? (reported for visibility) ---
**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2022, 10:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aspidistra-finds-loophole-in-hate-speech-rules/960843/109 "2022-03-14T22:01:24Z")
[Moderating] If you see something problematic, report it. Dealing with the reports themselves isn’t difficult-- It’s literally a single click for each reported post (even if the post has multiple reports). Dealing with the issue behind a report can be difficult sometimes, but it’s not made any more difficult by the number of reports (unless the number of reports is zero and so we don’t know about the issue at all). ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [March 14, 2022, 11:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aspidistra-finds-loophole-in-hate-speech-rules/960843/110 "2022-03-14T23:14:09Z")
I am sure other numbers of reports would cause problems, too. -1 reports would make you wonder what was going on, infinity reports would crash the system, and pi reports would just be annoying, because you would like reports to at least make an effort at being rational. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_Bravo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_bravo/32/493_2.png) [@Johnny\_Bravo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_Bravo)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2022, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aspidistra-finds-loophole-in-hate-speech-rules/960843/111 "2022-03-15T00:44:37Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > and pi reports would just be annoying, because you would like reports to at least make an effort at being rational. Hey, if there was ever a time for it, it’s today. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2022, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aspidistra-finds-loophole-in-hate-speech-rules/960843/112 "2022-03-15T13:34:23Z")
@ECG is not available this week for personal reasons, however, the rest of the mods discussed this, and we feel the violation is straightforward enough that we don’t need to wait for his return to act on it. This is in your series of 16 posts in this thread 1. **Crane** is banned from discussing trans-related issues until further notice. We felt that Crane can be a constructive member of the board on other topics, but needs to refrain from further comments on this one. _The ban will be posted._ 2. **Crane** has earned an official warning and a 1 week suspension for his hate speech in this thread. **This thread is now closed.** ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [March 15, 2022, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/aspidistra-finds-loophole-in-hate-speech-rules/960843/113 "2022-03-15T13:34:26Z")
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