# Assassin's Creed: Revelations

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assassins-creed-revelations/581067>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [May 7, 2011, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assassins-creed-revelations/581067 "2011-05-07T14:40:28Z")\
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**Author:** ![Mr.Kobayashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4af34b/32.png) [@Mr.Kobayashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Kobayashi)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2011, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assassins-creed-revelations/581067/1 "2011-05-07T14:40:28Z")

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[http://www.gamingunion.net/news/new-assassins-creed-revelations-details-revealed--4947.html](http://www.gamingunion.net/news/new-assassins-creed-revelations-details-revealed--4947.html)

The latest in the baffling yet beautiful and compelling Assassin’s Creed series has been announced, a Brotherhood style stopgap between 2 and 3.

The main bits:

- Ezio’s now over 50 (!).
- The game’s set in Constantinople.
- New crafting system for bombs.
- Hookblade travelling system.

Got to say I’d prefer more on Assassin’s Creed 3, rather than going back to Ezio’s story (some were grumbling about Brotherhood, so who knows what they’ll make of this). While I must admit that Constantinople is a great setting for an Assassin’s Creed game, I just hope Ezio doesn’t break a hip trying to parkour across the Hagia Sofia.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [May 7, 2011, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assassins-creed-revelations/581067/2 "2011-05-07T15:23:39Z")

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Hookblade ? Somebody at Ubi played Tenchu.

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**Author:** ![Agent\_Foxtrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc29f/32.png) [@Agent\_Foxtrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agent_Foxtrot)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assassins-creed-revelations/581067/3 "2011-05-20T19:49:14Z")

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I have a dreaded feeling that Ubisoft is forcing sequels of my beloved series for the quick buck. They’re coming out at a pace of one a year now. They need to let the fans wait and foam at the mouth the way they do for series like _God of War_, _Metal Gear Solid_, or _Halo_.

My biggest worry is that they are overusing Ezio. He’s a wonderful character and clearly extremely popular, but he’s starting to get stale. I think the original point of the series was to showcase different assassins in different cultures at different time periods, which they seem to have gone away from. Having one game take place during the Edō Period of Japan, another during the Spanish Inquisition, and another during Victorian England (with relative technologies for each era) would keep the series fresh pretty much indefinitely.

As much as I love Ezio, I hope this installment closes the book on his life. Fifty is way too old to be realistically jumping from building to building. Hell, 41 was too old in _Brotherhood_.

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**Author:** ![Kinthalis](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kinthalis/32/16084_2.png) [@Kinthalis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kinthalis)\
**Post date:** [May 20, 2011, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assassins-creed-revelations/581067/4 "2011-05-20T20:35:18Z")

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Yeah, this is nothing more than a money grab.

Quit giving us this samey gameplay and vistas, and specially the stupid sci-fi story.

Move on to part 3 where we close up most of the story hooks, and finish off the series with a modern AC that finishes the stupid sci-fi bits.

I picked up bloodlines because I liked AC II, but it got boring, very quickly. It’s just more of the same game.

I’m not picking this latest title up, which now has me worried that I’ll miss something in the story and be lost come chapter 3.

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**Author:** ![Agent\_Foxtrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc29f/32.png) [@Agent\_Foxtrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agent_Foxtrot)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assassins-creed-revelations/581067/5 "2011-05-23T13:37:57Z")

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> [@Kinthalis](#):
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> Yeah, this is nothing more than a money grab.
> 
> Quit giving us this samey gameplay and vistas, and specially the stupid sci-fi story.
> 
> Move on to part 3 where we close up most of the story hooks, and finish off the series with a modern AC that finishes the stupid sci-fi bits.
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> I picked up bloodlines because I liked AC II, but it got boring, very quickly. It’s just more of the same game.
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> I’m not picking this latest title up, which now has me worried that I’ll miss something in the story and be lost come chapter 3.

You probably will miss something if you don’t. That’s how the series hooks ya. 😃

I for one, want to find out Why Desmond killed Lucy. I have a feeling we’ll find out later that she was a Templar spy all along.

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**Author:** ![Cubsfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Cubsfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cubsfan)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assassins-creed-revelations/581067/6 "2011-05-23T21:49:45Z")

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Wow. AC was only supposed to be a trilogy when the first one came out. They are really milking the Ezio period for all it’s worth aren’t they?

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**Author:** ![Mr.Kobayashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4af34b/32.png) [@Mr.Kobayashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Kobayashi)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2011, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assassins-creed-revelations/581067/7 "2011-05-23T23:25:36Z")

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> [@Agent\_Foxtrot](#):
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> You probably will miss something if you don’t. That’s how the series hooks ya. 😃
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> I for one, want to find out Why Desmond killed Lucy. I have a feeling we’ll find out later that she was a Templar spy all along.

Yeah, I was expecting Brotherhood to be a glorified expansion but it really added to the story.

I thought Juno was controlling Desmond through the Apple of Eden. Is she even dead?

Still would prefer something new. Like Rebecca’s Prussian ancestors or something.

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**Author:** ![Gukumatz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/74df32/32.png) [@Gukumatz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gukumatz)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2011, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assassins-creed-revelations/581067/8 "2011-05-24T18:16:32Z")

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Brootherhood was a surprisingly high-quality game for a 1-year project, meaning they probably have multiple teams developing ideas, plot lines and assets. Recycling is obviously the name of the game, in terms of assets and mechanics, but it’s also frankly one of the best realized series in terms or story and setting, ever. While it might not be pitch (or period) perfect, it’s a damn sight better than anything else.

So, yeah, I’m looking forward to Revelations.

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**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2011, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assassins-creed-revelations/581067/9 "2011-05-24T18:19:27Z")

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I don’t have very high hopes for this one; I haven’t been thrilled with the previous games. (I haven’t played _Brotherhood_ yet though.) Nevertheless, I’ll probably give it a shot. I just hope they try to make the scenery a little more diverse, instead of having the same couple of blocks (complete with flower cart, pile of straw, etc) repeated over and over and over and fucking over.

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**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2011, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assassins-creed-revelations/581067/10 "2011-05-24T20:53:45Z")

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> [@Argent\_Towers](#):
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> I don’t have very high hopes for this one; I haven’t been thrilled with the previous games. (I haven’t played _Brotherhood_ yet though.) Nevertheless, I’ll probably give it a shot. I just hope they try to make the scenery a little more diverse, instead of having the same couple of blocks (complete with flower cart, pile of straw, etc) repeated over and over and over and fucking over.

You’ve written two lengthy threads about how much you hate the fucking shit out of AC1 and AC2. Why are you even following Revelations at all?

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**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2011, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assassins-creed-revelations/581067/11 "2011-05-24T20:57:57Z")

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I figure I might as well _try_ it. For all of the flaws of the series - and they are very deep flaws to me - the core gameplay mechanic has vast potential if they’d just do it right. So I maintain hope that their next entry in the series might finally fix some of the problems of earlier ones.

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**Author:** ![Agent\_Foxtrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc29f/32.png) [@Agent\_Foxtrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agent_Foxtrot)\
**Post date:** [May 24, 2011, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assassins-creed-revelations/581067/12 "2011-05-24T21:10:12Z")

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> [@Argent\_Towers](#):
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> I figure I might as well _try_ it. For all of the flaws of the series - and they are very deep flaws to me - the core gameplay mechanic has vast potential if they’d just do it right. So I maintain hope that their next entry in the series might finally fix some of the problems of earlier ones.

Dude, if you hate the series so much this far in, I think you may be happier with a different franchise. It’s not going to change much, at least not the changes you want. Why do you keep clinging to the series if you’ve never liked it?

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**Author:** ![Agent\_Foxtrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc29f/32.png) [@Agent\_Foxtrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Agent_Foxtrot)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assassins-creed-revelations/581067/13 "2011-10-20T16:05:51Z")

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Less than a month now. The suspense is killing me. Very curious to see how they reintroduce Altaïr.

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**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 4:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assassins-creed-revelations/581067/14 "2011-10-20T16:11:31Z")

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I wasn’t looking forward to this much at first but as it’s gotten closer it’s starting to interest me more. Yeah, I’d prefer a new era but I’d love to see Constantinople.

And although a year is very fast for a game Brotherhood seem fully realized so they’ll probably do this one right as well.

I won’t be picking it up right away, Saints Row the Third has my complete attention, but definitely around Christmas.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assassins-creed-revelations/581067/15 "2011-10-20T20:11:57Z")

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> [@Agent\_Foxtrot](#):
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> Less than a month now. The suspense is killing me. Very curious to see how they reintroduce Altaïr.

Apparently, Ezio is travelling to Constantinople to get ahold of a technomagical thingamabob that would let him relive Altaïr’s life - basically a proto-Animus. Which depending on what’s going on with Desmond might mean he’d be hitching a ride inside Ezio who’s inside Altaïr. If the guy had psych problems before, he ain’t seen nothing yet 😃

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**Author:** ![Jragon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19b73/32.png) [@Jragon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jragon)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assassins-creed-revelations/581067/16 "2011-10-20T20:17:05Z")

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I wonder if Animus inside Animus will exacerbate the bleeding effect, it seems like the brain would have trouble handling that.

Of course, it could also lead to a “turtles all the way down” twist with Animus within Animus within Animus that everyone’s been predicting, but god I hope not.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assassins-creed-revelations/581067/17 "2011-10-20T21:07:36Z")

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Assassin’s Creed 3 better not be Altaïr re-living his caveman ancestor’s life ! 🙂

Don’t worry: based on a hint towards the end of Brotherhood, the next one \*should \*be set in Paris circa 1789. God willing, 'cause that’s a pretty awesome period.

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**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\
**Post date:** [October 20, 2011, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assassins-creed-revelations/581067/18 "2011-10-20T22:57:39Z")

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> [@Kobal2](#):
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> Assassin’s Creed 3 better not be Altaïr re-living his caveman ancestor’s life ! 🙂
> 
> Don’t worry: based on a hint towards the end of Brotherhood, the next one \*should \*be set in Paris circa 1789. God willing, 'cause that’s a pretty awesome period.

Oh man, that’d be so awesome.

Where/what was the hint?

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**Author:** ![RandMcnally](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b782af/32.png) [@RandMcnally](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RandMcnally)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assassins-creed-revelations/581067/19 "2011-10-21T03:49:07Z")

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Seems like the fitting thread: [Sony has gotten the rights to make the movie](http://geeks.thedailywh.at/2011/10/20/assassins-creed-movie-news-of-the-day/). The way it’s set up is Sony will help finance while Ubisoft has creative control.

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**Author:** ![Kobal2](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kobal2/32/20_2.png) [@Kobal2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kobal2)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2011, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assassins-creed-revelations/581067/20 "2011-10-21T05:58:08Z")

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> [@RandMcnally](#):
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> Where/what was the hint?

[spoiler]IIRC it’s before the chat with Juno - they find the Apple under the Colosseum and it starts projecting symbols on the wall. Shaun says something along the lines of “Hey, I recognize these. This is a Phrygian cap, and that one is a the Freemason Allseeing Eye. There’s only one place both of those symbols appear together.”

That place is the [Universal Declaration of the Rights of Man](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/a0/Declaration_of_Human_Rights.jpg). (all seeing eye on top, phrygian cap on top of the fascio in the middle)[/spoiler]

Then again, it could be baseless speculation - the GPS coordinates given at the end of the “Leonardo’s Disappearance” DLC designate a point somewhere in the State of New York.

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