# Assemble your SNL Dream cast

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**Created:** [March 5, 2005, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assemble-your-snl-dream-cast/293096 "2005-03-05T17:13:20Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2005, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assemble-your-snl-dream-cast/293096/1 "2005-03-05T17:13:20Z")

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Here are the rules:

You can have up to 8 cast members (9 really, but Eddie Murphy is accepted as a _given_

No more than 4 can come from the original NOT READY FOR PRIME-TIME PLAYERS

Regardless of what era the cast members appeared, for the Dream Cast they are in their prime  
My choices:

John Belushi (he was crazy and obnoxious and a junkie but he had the talent)

Gilda Radner

Bill Murray (probably on everybody’s)

Garrett Morris (I always thought that he was majorly underrated- he didn’t get much time to shine, but when he did it was incredible {the “shotgun/whiteys” song, Chico Escuela, etc.- I think it’d be interesting to see what he could do)

Phil Hartman

Tina Fey

Martin Short

Maya Rudolph  
Who would yours be?

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**Post date:** [March 5, 2005, 5:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assemble-your-snl-dream-cast/293096/2 "2005-03-05T17:21:54Z")

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My cast:

Will Ferrell  
Darrell Hammond  
Bill Murray  
Gilda Radner  
Phil Hartman  
Jane Curtin  
Tim Meadows  
Norm MacDonald (for Update)

Tina Fey, Dan Aykroyd and Al Franken are definitely leading my writing team.

Now all of you can tell me how wrong I am for including Ferrell and Hammond.

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**Post date:** [March 5, 2005, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assemble-your-snl-dream-cast/293096/3 "2005-03-05T17:25:29Z")

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Dan Aykroyd  
Dana Carvey  
Jane Curtin  
Tina Fey  
Janeane Garafalo  
Mike Meyers  
Bill Murray  
Eddie Murphy  
Damon Wayans

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**Post date:** [March 5, 2005, 5:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assemble-your-snl-dream-cast/293096/4 "2005-03-05T17:42:25Z")

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Bill Murray  
Eddie Murphy  
Phil Hartman  
Tina Fey  
Amy Poehler  
Maya Rudolph  
Will Ferrell  
Horatio Sanz for the obligatory fat clown (let the flaming commence!)  
Toss-up: Jon Lovitz, Darrell Hammond, or Damon Wayans

First host: Christopher Walken

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**Post date:** [March 5, 2005, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assemble-your-snl-dream-cast/293096/5 "2005-03-05T17:46:51Z")

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> [@Big Bad Voodoo Lou](#):
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> Toss-up: Jon Lovitz, Darrell Hammond, or Damon Wayans

I maintain that you can’t have Ferrell without Hammond, or vice versa. Look at how well they worked off each other even before the 2000 election, and how Hammond hasn’t been quite the same since Will left for Hollywood.

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**Post date:** [March 5, 2005, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assemble-your-snl-dream-cast/293096/6 "2005-03-05T17:55:20Z")

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I was surprised to see one without Phil Hartman!

I need to preface my list. It does NOT include Eddie Murphy. I freely admit that his time on SNL far outshines ANYONE who has EVER been on the show. He is the SNL and post-SNL gold standard. But he was a one man show. The cast I am assembling is an ensemble. Eddie’s enormous talent wouldn’t fit in well. Or be needed like it was in the early 80’s.

So here is my cast:

1. Hartman
2. Carvey
3. Ferrell
4. Hammond
5. Nealon
6. Meadows
7. Fay (will have to do more than just the news)
8. Rudolph
9. Hooks

First Host: Tom Hanks (followed by John Goodman)  
First Musical Guest: Ashlee Simpson

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Phil Hartman  
Dana Carvey  
Mike Myers  
Bill Murray  
Eddie Murphy  
Chris Farley  
Jane Curtin  
Will Ferrell  
Jon Lovitz

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**Author:** ![DocJon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f6c823/32.png) [@DocJon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocJon)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2005, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assemble-your-snl-dream-cast/293096/8 "2005-03-05T18:05:07Z")

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Too many I know, but WTF, it’s my list:  
Darrel Hammond  
Will Ferrell  
Phil Hartman  
Eddie Murphy  
Dan Ackroyd  
Martin Short  
Tina Fey  
Maya Rudolph  
Julia Sweeney  
Dennis Miller (update)  
A. Whitney Brown (The Big Picture/writer)

The Waste of talent group(good talent, did little):  
Jay Mohr  
Janeane Garofalo  
Joan Cusack  
Mark McKinney  
Damon Wayans  
Robert Downey, Jr.  
Brian Doyle-Murray  
Chris Rock  
“What were they thinking?” group:  
Gilbert Gottfried  
Brad Hall  
Rich Hall  
Anthony Michael Hall  
Charles Rocket  
Gary Kroeger

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**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\
**Post date:** [March 5, 2005, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assemble-your-snl-dream-cast/293096/9 "2005-03-05T18:10:34Z")

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Let’s see . . . almost anyone who has touched the show in the last 10 years is unfunny, and most of the people before that have become unfunny since then (for instance, Dan Akroyd and Eddie Murphy will never do anything else funny for the rest of their lives. Bet on it.) So this is going to be tough…

Bill Murray  
Chris Farley  
Phil Hartman  
Norm MacDonald  
Sarah Silverman  
David Spade (I’m grasping in the dark here, but if I get Farley I want Spade)  
Jon Lovitz  
Eh . . . I guess Myers and Carvey will make 9, since I am not picking that hack Eddie Murphy.

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**Post date:** [March 5, 2005, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assemble-your-snl-dream-cast/293096/10 "2005-03-05T19:00:46Z")

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> [@DocJon](#):
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> “What were they thinking?” group:  
> Gilbert Gottfried  
> Brad Hall  
> Rich Hall  
> Anthony Michael Hall  
> Charles Rocket  
> Gary Kroeger

Kroeger (who to my knowledge has done _nothing_ worth talking about since), Hall and Julia Louis Dreyfuss (aka Mrs. Brad Hall) were a package deal, which is why they took all three. (Personally I’d have passed on all three.)

Rocket at least had one memorable moment (the first use of the ‘F’ word I can think of on TV other than _Scared Straight_).

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**Post date:** [March 5, 2005, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assemble-your-snl-dream-cast/293096/11 "2005-03-05T19:20:36Z")

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Saturday Night Dead:

John Belushi  
Gilda Radner  
John Candy  
Phil Hartman  
Chris Farley

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**Post date:** [March 5, 2005, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assemble-your-snl-dream-cast/293096/12 "2005-03-05T19:47:58Z")

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There’s just too many to pick from. How about we just start categorizing them into class A, B, and C?

The grades could be determined like this:

A - people who have created numerous iconic characters, or who were consistently hilarious, who routinely elevated skits they were in, and who left a lasting impact on the history of SNL and comedy in general

B - people who are consistently funny or otherwise talented (singing, acting, etc), but for some reason didn’t ‘break through’. They either didn’t have the creativity to create truly unique and funny characters, or they couldn’t consistently stay at the top of the pack and were often forgettable through entire episodes

C - people who should never have been on the show.

## A Grade

Dana Carvey  
John Belushi  
Dan Ayckroyd  
Bill Murray  
Will Ferrel  
Eddie Murphy  
Chris Farley  
Mike Meyers  
David Spade  
Phil Hartman  
Gilda Radner  
Chris Rock  
Martin Short  
Jon Lovitz  
Adam Sandler

## A - Weekend Update anchors

Dennis Miller  
Chevy Chase  
Norm MacDonald  
Tina Fey and Jimmy Fallon  
Tina Fey and Amy Poehler

## B Grade

Jane Curtin  
Amy Poehler  
Tina Fey  
Julia Sweeney  
Jan Hooks  
Darrell Hammond  
Christopher Guest  
Billy Crystal  
Chevy Chase  
Garret Morris  
Maya Rudolph  
Kevin Nealon  
Tim Meadows  
Jimmy Fallon  
Horatio Sanz  
Mary Gross  
Brian Doyle-Murray

## B Grade Update Hosts

Kevin Nealon  
Colin Quinn  
Dan Ayckroyd  
Bill Murray

## C - Grade

Brad Hall  
Rich Hall  
Anthony Michael Hall  
Charles Rocket  
Gary Kroeger  
Christine Ebersol (anyone remember her?)  
Gail Matthias (remember her?)  
Brad Hall

## C - Weekend Update Anchors

Charles Rocket  
Mary Gross  
Brad Hall  
Christopher Guest (what a waste of talent)

There’s lots more to add, but I’m burned out now.

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**Post date:** [March 5, 2005, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assemble-your-snl-dream-cast/293096/13 "2005-03-05T22:18:39Z")

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Phil Hartman  
Phil Hartman  
Dana Carvey  
Eddie Murphy  
Mike Meyers  
John Belushi  
Julia Sweeney  
John Lovitz  
Chris Farley  
Phil Hartman

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**Author:** ![DocJon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f6c823/32.png) [@DocJon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocJon)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2005, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assemble-your-snl-dream-cast/293096/14 "2005-03-06T00:15:56Z")

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> [@Cisco](#):
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> Let’s see . . . almost anyone who has touched the show in the last 10 years is unfunny, and most of the people before that have become unfunny since then (for instance, Dan Akroyd and Eddie Murphy will never do anything else funny for the rest of their lives. Bet on it.) So this is going to be tough…
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> Bill Murray  
> Chris Farley  
> Phil Hartman  
> Norm MacDonald  
> Sarah Silverman  
> David Spade (I’m grasping in the dark here, but if I get Farley I want Spade)  
> Jon Lovitz  
> Eh . . . I guess Myers and Carvey will make 9, since I am not picking that hack Eddie Murphy.

Unusual list, in part. I have a soft spot for Norm’s humor, and I can see where his unique, only-halfway-trying style adds something truly unique. . .plus he could do nothing else but impersonate Burt Reynolds and still be worth keeping. That never got old for me.

Sarah Silverman? Belongs in my “waste of talent” category. I was excited when she joined the cast, as I thought she was very funny, but I can’t remember anything she ever did on the show. . .but she’s so attractive, I could EASILY be persuaded to keep her 😃

-DocJon

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**Post date:** [March 6, 2005, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assemble-your-snl-dream-cast/293096/15 "2005-03-06T00:29:44Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> Kroeger (who to my knowledge has done _nothing_ worth talking about since), Hall and Julia Louis Dreyfuss (aka Mrs. Brad Hall) were a package deal, which is why they took all three. (Personally I’d have passed on all three.)
> 
> Rocket at least had one memorable moment (the first use of the ‘F’ word I can think of on TV other than _Scared Straight_).

Heh, that explains a lot. I hate Brad Hall. He reminds me of a game-show host. A bad one.

Thanks for the info, and I remember the ‘f’ word incident. I couldn’t believe I’d heard that right. Those were more genteel times, and you just didn’t hear that on tv.

-DocJon

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**Post date:** [March 6, 2005, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assemble-your-snl-dream-cast/293096/16 "2005-03-06T03:28:59Z")

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All these lists are good, but they lack a certain “Piscopoglian” quality.

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I’d have to violate the OP’s rule about original cast, and add Murphy and Hartman to Season One. Period. Everything since has been awful, as a whole.

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**Post date:** [March 6, 2005, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assemble-your-snl-dream-cast/293096/18 "2005-03-06T03:57:15Z")

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Chris Parnell  
Darrell Hammond  
Will Ferrell  
Phil Hartman  
Amy Poehler  
Ana Gasteyer  
Jane Curtin  
Gilda Radner  
Update: Dennis Miller  
Host: Buck Henry or Christopher Walken. Whoever wins the coin toss.  
Musical Guest: Lorne, I’ll see your $3200, and raise you an extra million. That’d be $1,003,200.00 (split 4 ways, of course) if the Beatles would come on and do one song.

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**Post date:** [March 6, 2005, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assemble-your-snl-dream-cast/293096/19 "2005-03-06T08:06:40Z")

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Phil Hartman  
John Belushi  
Mike Myers  
Dana Carvey  
Eddie Murphy  
Jane Curtin  
Christopher Guest  
Bill Murray  
Jon Lovitz

And Steve Martin as host, back in his White Suit period when he was there all the time.

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**Post date:** [March 6, 2005, 9:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/assemble-your-snl-dream-cast/293096/20 "2005-03-06T09:57:53Z")

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[ol]  
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'kay, so I’m biased. 😛

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